Collingwood Star in trouble

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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:39 pm

Psyber wrote:All football teams have their juvenile delinquents, unfortunately, because the guys running them aren't much different, and indulge the talented louts rather than sort them out early. My old school Cricket captain used to say, "All footballers have good reflexes but no brains!" The Hockey captain tended to agree.


I've always been fascinated over the years listening to sporting people being interviewed in the media. You can listen to cricketers, swimmers, basketballers, etc and they speak succinctly, keep it interesting, and you can learn something.

Then you listen to a footballer .... "Yeah, nah", and other assorted cliches, makes the interview extremely boring. A 25 year old footballer can sound less intelligent and less mature than a 15 year old swimmer.

It's easy to understand why people suggest at times that footballers aren't real bright.
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Mr66 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:48 pm

And Rugby League players are even worse than their AFL brethren.
"Yeah, na"
"Everythink"
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Psyber » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:15 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote: I've always been fascinated over the years listening to sporting people being interviewed in the media. You can listen to cricketers, swimmers, basketballers, etc and they speak succinctly, keep it interesting, and you can learn something.

Then you listen to a footballer .... "Yeah, nah", and other assorted cliches, makes the interview extremely boring. A 25 year old footballer can sound less intelligent and less mature than a 15 year old swimmer.

It's easy to understand why people suggest at times that footballers aren't real bright.
There is class in sport apparently...

My school Cricket captain won a Rhodes Scholarship and is now a Professor of Pure Mathematics.
The Hockey captain trained as a teacher but moved into Geostatistics at an Adelaide University.
[And the three of us edited the high school magazine together in our final year.]

The kids even further downstream at my school played Baseball.
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Rotter » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:10 am

Taking into consideration his propensity to find trouble, consider this.

In his current environment in Melbourne and the principle of this line of thinking would be applicable with him being in any of the other states with the exception of South Australia, he would be surrounded by like minded people who's sole purpose is to play AFL football.

Even with this being the case and with most of his "friends" expected to be disciplined to this cause, he still gets himself in the sh*t but if he were to come to Adelaide and whoever he plays for is incidental, he would naturally reacquaint himself with neighbourhood & School friends, friends from his junior club (Pooraka I think) who quite possibly aren't required to conduct themselves in a manner expected of an AFL footballer, he "could" actually be heading for even more temptation which would find him in more trouble. Just a thought
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Barto » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:12 am

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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:08 am

That's great barto but he was driving a Falcon ute. :oops:
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:15 am

Psyber wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote: I've always been fascinated over the years listening to sporting people being interviewed in the media. You can listen to cricketers, swimmers, basketballers, etc and they speak succinctly, keep it interesting, and you can learn something.

Then you listen to a footballer .... "Yeah, nah", and other assorted cliches, makes the interview extremely boring. A 25 year old footballer can sound less intelligent and less mature than a 15 year old swimmer.

It's easy to understand why people suggest at times that footballers aren't real bright.
There is class in sport apparently...

My school Cricket captain won a Rhodes Scholarship and is now a Professor of Pure Mathematics.
The Hockey captain trained as a teacher but moved into Geostatistics at an Adelaide University.
[And the three of us edited the high school magazine together in our final year.]

The kids even further downstream at my school played Baseball.


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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:21 am

Psyber wrote:There is class in sport apparently...

My school Cricket captain won a Rhodes Scholarship and is now a Professor of Pure Mathematics.
The Hockey captain trained as a teacher but moved into Geostatistics at an Adelaide University.
[And the three of us edited the high school magazine together in our final year.]

The kids even further downstream at my school played Baseball.


Don't know about class in sport more likely they were academically inclined and played sport.

I mean school captain in sport doesn't make you a great sportsman...

Some of the rowers, swimmers and cyclist I've spoken to...

Had a swimmer how qualified for the national championships in swimming - three swims off a Commonwealth games team - dumb as dog sh!t...
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Dirko » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:25 am

Psyber wrote:Rhodes Scholarship and is now a Professor of Pure Mathematics, Geostatistics


WOW, hey did anyone tell you a State Magistrate over here (a classy job one would think) is a convicted paedophile....
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:32 am

Nick D'arcy anyone?

Who's the swimmer up on drugs charges?
Who's the kayaker up on drugs charges?

Who's the former olympic javelin thrower on drugs charges?

You can't isolate footballers for stupidity.
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Psyber » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:20 am

Psyber wrote: There is class in sport apparently...
I did say apparently, not certainly guys. And I wasn't trying to "isolate foorballers for stupidity".

I assume factors like your general interests and experience as a child, and your intelligence, help shape what sport you choose, and perhaps that the average guy chooses the most commonly played sport in their community, unless their are strong family factors pushing another direction..

The Cricket captain was the school's best cricket player, and not bad at Hockey. He was also a useful Chess player.
The Hockey captain was not quite the best Hockey player, but the most consistent, a good leader, and a useful Cricket player [and pianist]..
Neither of them turned out to be Paedophiles, or demonstrated other vices.

This side discussion has prompted some thought about the issue.

At Woodville High, back then, the boys' classes were streamed A to F, transparently on the basis of initial IQ testing, although some attempt was made to hide it. People moved up and down in the streams in later years based on academic performance and equalising class sizes. The guy with the highest score on the tests played no sport, failed academically and dropped out. The girl with the highest score played Hockey, was girl's head prefect, then got pregnant to an engineering student, married him, and dropped out.

Most of the Cricket and Hockey players came from the A stream. Most of the footy players were in the B stream, or sometimes transferred back and forth between B and A - Bruce Nyland [PAM] was one of these as was Terry Groom [Labor Senator and lawyer]. Surfers tended to be in this transitional group too. There didn't seem to be many sporting types on the C and D streams. E and F included most of the Baseball players. The few [including me] who took up classical wrestling when we had an American teacher at the school, and Fencing when we had a former UK actor as an English teacher, came from the A stream. They were a small group who kept trying whatever was new.

I don't know what it all means, and I don't think that small sample proves much, but I find it interesting. I would be interested in other peoples' observations from their experience to broaden the sample.
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby Barto » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:06 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:That's great barto but he was driving a Falcon ute. :oops:



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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby best on hill » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:11 pm

i guess at least they didnt hit and run like a crows onballer.
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby smac » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:35 pm

best on hill wrote:i guess at least they didnt hit and run like a crows onballer.

I'm not certain you want to head down that path, it may lead to the parklands...
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Re: Collingwood Star in trouble

Postby JK » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:19 pm

smac wrote:
best on hill wrote:i guess at least they didnt hit and run like a crows onballer.

I'm not certain you want to head down that path, it may lead to the parklands...


I thought the same, but snipers generally shoot themselves eventually anyway
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