Home ground crowd averages

[topsywaldron]

Good to see two of the most Anti-North posters on safooty ..

You and who else?

[Wedgie]

It seems Glenn wants north supporters to have a forum - The Roost - but you MUST say this and noT mention this etc.......

The club tried their own forum when they went pro with their site but it failed.

The club either:
a) ignore the Roost which they shouldnt, they should embrace a forum where a large cross section of their members discuss issue
or
b) they read the Roost, take note of it but say publicly they don't read it.

IMHO its (b) as most NAFC staff, players, etc Ive ever talked to read it religiously, someone's even seen it on Glenn's PC and he's quite often discussed matters with me that have been risen on the Roost, as have most board members.

Clubs should embrace their members in online communities, most do, I think CD does a fantastic job and I think the way that Norwood actually made their fans forum apart of their official site is great, as I understand most of others forums are used in a smart manner by their clubs too, as should they.

But with the Roost and the "Virtual Runner" on the official NAFC site North fans do have 2 fairly good facilities to discuss the club and ask any official questions too.

[Rushby Hinds]

It seems Glenn wants north supporters to have a forum - The Roost - but you MUST say this and noT mention this etc.......

The club tried their own forum when they went pro with their site but it failed.

The club either:
a) ignore the Roost which they shouldnt, they should embrace a forum where a large cross section of their members discuss issue
or
b) they read the Roost, take note of it but say publicly they don't read it.

IMHO its (b) as most NAFC staff, players, etc Ive ever talked to read it religiously, someone's even seen it on Glenn's PC and he's quite often discussed matters with me that have been risen on the Roost, as have most board members.

Clubs should embrace their members in online communities, most do, I think CD does a fantastic job and I think the way that Norwood actually made their fans forum apart of their official site is great, as I understand most of others forums are used in a smart manner by their clubs too, as should they.

But with the Roost and the "Virtual Runner" on the official NAFC site North fans do have 2 fairly good facilities to discuss the club and ask any official questions too.

Wedgie, If there was a hypothetical forum about my work place that said sack me, sack my boss, that I tell lies, that I have imploded, that tells everyone how much people THINK i get paid, bagging a sponsors product, that i don't treat people with respect, etc etc, I'd hardly embrace it.......

[Wedgie]

Wedgie, If there was a hypothetical forum about my work place that said sack me, sack my boss, that I tell lies, that I have imploded, that tells everyone how much people THINK i get paid, bagging a sponsors product, that i don't treat people with respect, etc etc, I'd hardly embrace it.......

Fair enough mate, that's where we differ, personally I would embrace it and address the issues and stop telling lies as it would make the business work better hypothetically speaking.
Ignoring what the hypothetical shareholders think and not addressing their issues most of which are warranted would be a terrible way to do business and send most hypothetical business broke IMHO.

[Wedgie]

For those who expressed confusion the article addressing home ground issues address The Roost and the feeling of members is very relevent when it comes to why crowds are down.
Your post doesn't have anything to do with the topic though, if you have any future issues perhaps send a pm and I'll address it for you.
Cheers.

[Baron Greenback]

I can't believe South's crowds have actually gone up this year.
Last year they were playing half decent footy, this year I can't believe some of the tripe they're serving up.
For the first time in my life I'm actually ashamed to barrack for them.

[pipers]

Good to see two of the most Anti-North posters on safooty have (1) Started the topic and (2) Contributed to it.

Just in case we missed it fatal - what is your point in having a go at the CEO's comments?

If you think it's not 'rocket science' in what he said, do use your vast Football Operations knowledge and expertise to tell us exactly what he should have said? Then when you supply us with the hidden secrets of your wisdom we will follow Mr. Elliotts words of wisdom and ring the club to pass on your suggestions!

Dreb, I posted a reply to this but it seemed to go missing as part of the merging of my topic with this thread (or it could be to do with the fact I mentioned the alledged night-time incident a few weeks ago)...

Anyway, can't be bothered reposting, and basically Squawk has said the same thing. I was being sympathetic and suggested that Elliot was glossing-over the whole lack of player belief in Jarman thing which was contributing to poor on-field performances which of course has an effect on attendances...

Trying to use West and South as an excuse is piss-weak, as they've been carp for years!

[TigerBoss]

Wedgie, If there was a hypothetical forum about my work place that said sack me, sack my boss, that I tell lies, that I have imploded, that tells everyone how much people THINK i get paid, bagging a sponsors product, that i don't treat people with respect, etc etc, I'd hardly embrace it.......

Fair enough mate, that's where we differ, personally I would embrace it and address the issues and stop telling lies as it would make the business work better hypothetically speaking.
Ignoring what the hypothetical shareholders think and not addressing their issues most of which are warranted would be a terrible way to do business and send most hypothetical business broke IMHO.

Broken record but would the NAFC hierarchy ever win regardless what they said or did?

[pipers]

I'm with Wedgie on this...

OF COURSE THEY READ IT!

No matter how little credence a club's management pay to their supporter-base (which in North's case is allegedly very little) you would keep an eye on forums like that. It would simply be bad business not to.

Pretending that you pretend forums like The Roost don't exist is pathetic...

Sort of like pretending that three of your players weren't on club premises without authorisation one night... Ah, wait... tried that didn't they...

[ElizabethVCRThief]

If there was a hypothetical forum about my work place that said sack me, sack my boss, that I tell lies, that I have imploded, that tells everyone how much people THINK i get paid, bagging a sponsors product, that i don't treat people with respect, etc etc, I'd hardly embrace it.......

Where can i sign up for this forum?

[Wedgie]

Wedgie, If there was a hypothetical forum about my work place that said sack me, sack my boss, that I tell lies, that I have imploded, that tells everyone how much people THINK i get paid, bagging a sponsors product, that i don't treat people with respect, etc etc, I'd hardly embrace it.......

Fair enough mate, that's where we differ, personally I would embrace it and address the issues and stop telling lies as it would make the business work better hypothetically speaking.
Ignoring what the hypothetical shareholders think and not addressing their issues most of which are warranted would be a terrible way to do business and send most hypothetical business broke IMHO.

Broken record but would the NAFC hierarchy ever win regardless what they said or did?

Definately, they win a lot now, positive stuff as well as negative stuff is posted on the roost, its just the negative stuff that gets more publicity obviously, they had a kids pie night on Monday night and that got a lot of praise.
As long as they put the members first and not themselves and were honest in their communications it would be a win/win.
They could use it effectively to their and the members benefit if they had someone like CD on board.

PS Fatal, you're spot on mate

[NFC]

Per the NAFC website...

Forever on TV

North seems to have mortgage on live coverage this season, particularly at Prospect. Including the latest schedule, we have been programmed for five of a possible 8 home games for direct ABC coverage - the remaining two are Sundays. Great for advertising, but it doesn't help attendances.

[Adelaide Hawk]

It's possibly a fair argument, although the TV coverage isn't live, so I can't imagine why that would stop you from attending.

As for Sunday matches, I don't like them at all.

[Wedgie]

Half glass empty sort of guy NFC?

I would have thought "Great for Advertising" would be the opposite to having a whinge?

Having more TV games than other clubs has both its positive and negatives, Im not sure what the issue is there.

Full marks to the NAFC for making their website interesting enough for fans of other clubs wanting to visit there.

[NFC]

Half glass empty sort of guy NFC?

I would have thought "Great for Advertising" would be the opposite to having a whinge?

Having more TV games than other clubs has both its positive and negatives, Im not sure what the issue is there.

Full marks to the NAFC for making their website interesting enough for fans of other clubs wanting to visit there.

Fair post. But if they were performing better there wouldn't be attendance issues and they wouldn't need to blame the ABC for constantly showing their games...

[Grahaml]

Sorry Wedge, I have to agree with NFC. The quote comes across as a negative more than a positive IMHO. Admittedly it's a little unclear but I would read it as implying that they would rather not have the coverage.

Anyway, since when did 5 out of 8 leave only 2?

[Wedgie]

Half glass empty sort of guy NFC?

I would have thought "Great for Advertising" would be the opposite to having a whinge?

Having more TV games than other clubs has both its positive and negatives, Im not sure what the issue is there.

Full marks to the NAFC for making their website interesting enough for fans of other clubs wanting to visit there.

Fair post. But if they were performing better there wouldn't be attendance issues and they wouldn't need to blame the ABC for constantly showing their games...

They don't just blame the ABC for their attendances, didn't you see the topic about the article with Glenn Elliott?
Have a look at the Home Attendances thread, Ive listed quite a few reasons why crowds are down, it really isn't rocket science.

Only whinge I see is yours, Im very critical of North when they do something wrong but stating the bleeding the obvious on a medium for their members isn't one of them.

In fact I think its a huge positive that they make their site so interesting that fans of other clubs also want to read it, I love my SANFL but I honestly couldn't imagine being bored enough to wanting to read the Norwood site, have visited the Eagles site but that was only to see when their Gala Dinner was starting.
Perhaps the thread should read "Congrats to North for their interesting website and Boo to all the other clubs with boring websites", that's what a half glass full sort of person would do.

PS I just found all the official crowds for Prospect in 3 seconds flat on the official NAFC website, I thought I'd do a study and see if I could do the same on the Norwood website, can someone point me in the direction where I can do this? Ive given up after 30 seconds. Can't even find something as simple as the attendance for last week! Its websites like that, that we SHOULD be critical of.

[goraw]

Sorry Wedge, I have to agree with NFC. The quote comes across as a negative more than a positive IMHO. Admittedly it's a little unclear but I would read it as implying that they would rather not have the coverage.

Anyway, since when did 5 out of 8 leave only 2?

graham 5 out of a POSSIBLE(=saturday) 8. the remaining 2 are sunday.

[Wedgie]

Another merger made, we really don't need yet another floating around about home match attendances and the reasons for it.
Cheers.

[NFC]

PS I just found all the official crowds for Prospect in 3 seconds flat on the official NAFC website, I thought I'd do a study and see if I could do the same on the Norwood website, can someone point me in the direction where I can do this? Ive given up after 30 seconds. Can't even find something as simple as the attendance for last week! Its websites like that, that we SHOULD be critical of.

At Cooper's Stadium

Not hard now was it?