rumour from prospect today

[CUTTERMAN]

Why would North want to recruit shite Geelong footballers?

Because Jimmy Allan's good mates with them!

Something tells me that's got nothing to do with why Paul Couch was in attendance yesterday...rocked up with Gary Cameron, our league Assistant Coach...

The Tiser printed that Jarrod Molloy was out at HHO watching Centrals and West also.???

[cd]

Jarrod was special comments for ABC radio on Saturday at HHO.

[Mickyj]

If North get a new coach can this new coach take the current group of player to a flag in the next 2 years?

Good question, one that probably couldn't be answered unless we know exactly who North will be recruiting in the next couple of years as there's a few gaps that need to be filled.
If we recruit Gary Ablett Junior, Matthew Scarlett, Brad Ottens, Matthew Stokes, Joel Selwood, Cameron Ling, Josh Hunt, Cam Mooney, Jimmy Bartel and Paul Chapman then yes, I think we can win a flag!

We at Oval ave would never clear Stokes to North Wedgie

[Mickyj]

There were plenty of rumours at alberton sat. i know a few are true

Which rumors Holden ?
I have already dropped the Weed Pyeman hamliton anymore ?

[bayman]

If North get a new coach can this new coach take the current group of player to a flag in the next 2 years?

Good question, one that probably couldn't be answered unless we know exactly who North will be recruiting in the next couple of years as there's a few gaps that need to be filled.
If we recruit Gary Ablett Junior, Matthew Scarlett, Brad Ottens, Matthew Stokes, Joel Selwood, Cameron Ling, Josh Hunt, Cam Mooney, Jimmy Bartel and Paul Chapman then yes, I think we can win a flag!

We at Oval ave would never clear Stokes to North Wedgie

actually as stokes left oval avenue he was on his way to glenelg (true) & then got drafted

[TigerBoss]

If North get a new coach can this new coach take the current group of player to a flag in the next 2 years?

Good question, one that probably couldn't be answered unless we know exactly who North will be recruiting in the next couple of years as there's a few gaps that need to be filled.
If we recruit Gary Ablett Junior, Matthew Scarlett, Brad Ottens, Matthew Stokes, Joel Selwood, Cameron Ling, Josh Hunt, Cam Mooney, Jimmy Bartel and Paul Chapman then yes, I think we can win a flag!

We at Oval ave would never clear Stokes to North Wedgie

actually as stokes left oval avenue he was on his way to glenelg (true) & then got drafted

Yep...not sure if he would get a game with our league side now though.

[mick]

Some Rooster fans are still hapy with Jars Tigerboss. I think it is unrealistic to expect a coach to have success every year. I don't see what the big deal is if Jars has upset a few players, some supporters do. Surely that goes with the being a senior coach. Some supporters are certainly out to get rid of him. I don't think the board is paying too much attention to their opinion. this is also one of the axes they grind.

I guess it's much easier to replace guys like Allan and Alleway than it would be to replace Jarman I know if it was a choice between those options (not saying it is mind you) which one i'd choose. I'm sure if any football club had the choice of losing several of their best players or losing their coach they'd keep the players every time.

Still happy with a moron who doesn't bother turning up to presentations who the players don't like or respect, who spends more time telling coaches who are far more qualified than he is what they are doing wrong when he is in charge of a sinking ship himself? Each to their own i guess.

Great post RR, there are plently of North supporters and members who feel the same thing.

[TigerBoss]

Some Rooster fans are still hapy with Jars Tigerboss. I think it is unrealistic to expect a coach to have success every year. I don't see what the big deal is if Jars has upset a few players, some supporters do. Surely that goes with the being a senior coach. Some supporters are certainly out to get rid of him. I don't think the board is paying too much attention to their opinion. this is also one of the axes they grind.

I guess it's much easier to replace guys like Allan and Alleway than it would be to replace Jarman I know if it was a choice between those options (not saying it is mind you) which one i'd choose. I'm sure if any football club had the choice of losing several of their best players or losing their coach they'd keep the players every time.

Still happy with a moron who doesn't bother turning up to presentations who the players don't like or respect, who spends more time telling coaches who are far more qualified than he is what they are doing wrong when he is in charge of a sinking ship himself? Each to their own i guess.

Great post RR, there are plently of North supporters and members who feel the same thing.

Hmmm...so you have a North Adelaide through and through bloke in ANJ, and two blow-ins (blow-ins = recruits - for the simple minded) and a contingent of North fans would prefer to have the blow-ins over a true North Adelaide person? Simply staggering that.

You'd have to laugh if North sacked Jars, and a year or two later, Alleway and/or Allan had also left the club, chasing higher dollars elsewhere...can't undo the decision then.

[JK]

To be fair, Jarman was on Norwood's list for 8 years and the Crows for 7 (Not suggesting his heart was or wasn't always with the Roosters though).

Anyway I'd suggest that would be irrelevant, I've heard stories directly from North fans who are right in the know down there, and as with any club, it's hard to have opinion armed with all the relevant information if it's not our own club - IMHO they would know best.

[Ian]

Hmmm...so you have a North Adelaide through and through bloke in ANJ, and two blow-ins (blow-ins = recruits - for the simple minded) and a contingent of North fans would prefer to have the blow-ins over a true North Adelaide person? Simply staggering that.

A North bloke through and through who left the club after an argument with Nunan to play for a lot more $$$$$$ than he was getting at North.

You'd have to laugh if North sacked Jars, and a year or two later, Alleway and/or Allan had also left the club, chasing higher dollars elsewhere...can't undo the decision then.

Alleway loves North, as does Allan......................everyone has their breaking point though.

[TigerBoss]

No worries North. Return to your glory days down the foot of the table, where you were pre-Jars...

[holden78]

Look Mickyj , with each underperformance & baffling team selection , the pressure on the Board is mounting & if Ron decides to walk , they have to be prepared straight away to have R----- P---- READY so we dont get caught out with B grade recruits (we are already stacked to the top of the grandstand where you sit ! ) . If the Board forget R P s rather lethargic leaving when he was marketing guru , I think its a simple case of right man at the right time . He ticks every box you can come up with & with Mark Jeffries along side , would be just what we need to reinvigorate the whole club from top to bottom ! You want PASSION & DETERMINATION ........ask Jarrod Wright for his opinion if your not sure ! Its so obvious its scarey ! Les its time to forgive & forget for the sake of the clubs evolution ; a couple of young guns coaching under the stewardship of our seasoned Board would be exciting times for all !

[Jimmy]

This is a rumour I read on the roost just now concerning Jimmy Allan. Not sure what cred it has but 2 people seem to have heard the same thing. Below is my comment from db.org that I just cut and pasted here. Would like to hear some thoughts about this one...

I just wanted to know what others are thinking about this guy at the present time He is clearly not 100% fit and continues to give his all week in week out. How important is he to us? Replaceable?

I also heard a little whisper on Sunday that he may be thinking about a move from Prospect! Possibly to Sturt of even back home to Geelong or a VFL club. What a shame that would be

I heard about a month ago that he was playing injured at the insistance of the senior coach, and wanted a couple of weeks off get get right.

As for leaving he's not the only champion that I've heard the same thing about.

Read this rumour on the roost....anyone heard anything or someone just playing funnybuggers??? 2 people seem to have heard the same thing....hmmm, doubtful but could gather legs and be interesting. Not saying we need or want another north player to turn into a champion but its always interesting to hear the blues in rumours of other sanfl players.

[Punk Rooster]

No worries North. Return to your glory days down the foot of the table, where you were pre-Jars...

*sigh* I'll say it loud & clear...

Jars has done well in lifting the spirit of the playing group & building a squad.
However, this coincided with North stabilising it's financial resources.
Unfortunatley, Jars has done as much as he can- we fear that the way things have been handled this year, he could undo all his good work in 6 months.
Alleway & Allen are North men, just like Jars- I'd say Jars has deeper love for North, given that he came back to help lift the club, which he has achieved.
Along the way, his original vision has either been blurred, or what he's achieved has changed his view on how things should be done, & the feeling is that this has been detrimental.
North supporters feel the time is near for us to move on to the next chapter- not at the expense of mocking/degrading Andrew.
North need strong leadership at the top (coach) & I don't believe that Andrew is capable of being that person- he has let himself & the club down at crucial times, he's not open to being told where he's going wrong (despite asking the question).

[TigerBoss]

No worries North. Return to your glory days down the foot of the table, where you were pre-Jars...

*sigh* I'll say it loud & clear...

Jars has done well in lifting the spirit of the playing group & building a squad.
However, this coincided with North stabilising it's financial resources.
Unfortunatley, Jars has done as much as he can- we fear that the way things have been handled this year, he could undo all his good work in 6 months.
Alleway & Allen are North men, just like Jars- I'd say Jars has deeper love for North, given that he came back to help lift the club, which he has achieved.
Along the way, his original vision has either been blurred, or what he's achieved has changed his view on how things should be done, & the feeling is that this has been detrimental.
North supporters feel the time is near for us to move on to the next chapter- not at the expense of mocking/degrading Andrew.
North need strong leadership at the top (coach) & I don't believe that Andrew is capable of being that person- he has let himself & the club down at crucial times, he's not open to being told where he's going wrong (despite asking the question).

This is perhaps the best way the issues North fans are having with Jars has been explained to date...all I've seen before this post from you Punky, is a lot of different posters laying the boots into him, yourself included.

[Punk Rooster]

please show me where I've "laid the boots into him"?
I certainly haven't called him a moron, or abused him- not something I agree with, he's not the enemy. That's not to say I haven't been frustrated with some things he's done.

[Wedgie]

Let me put this hypothetical issue to you Tigerboss. (Ive been inspired by a Roost poster)

What if the people who appear to be white anting Jarman know a hell of a lot more than you about the situation, what if those people are aware of dozens and dozens of absolute horror stories in regard to the coach first or 2nd hand, the way he treats people, the unprofessional things he does, the way he "white ants" the club himself, the lies he might tell to players and others involved with the club, the way he might disrespect the club and those involved with it, the way he might go missing from club events when he has no real excuse. Some absolutely unbelievable horror stories which have been confirmed with adminitration, board, players and assistant coaches.

Just hypothetically consider that scenario, if that was hypothetically correct and the people you are having a go at had 99% of the knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes and you have absolutely no knowledge, would you say those people are perhaps deserved of your respect and you might gracefully bow to their superior knowledge about a situation. Hypothetically don't you think those people might want North as a club to improve and have a little bit more knowledge than yourelf as to how the club might get there?
Even if those people were completely wrong, do you seriosly think they're just trying to get rid of someone at the club to make their club a worse place?
I honestly have no idea what motivates you

[Jimmy]

I honestly have no idea what motivates you

Thats easy, the gays winning does and north losing. He has only just come back when they are sitting top of the table and north well below.

Classic case of bandwaggoning.

[TigerBoss]

Let me put this hypothetical issue to you Tigerboss. (Ive been inspired by a Roost poster)

What if the people who appear to be white anting Jarman know a hell of a lot more than you about the situation, what if those people are aware of dozens and dozens of absolute horror stories in regard to the coach first or 2nd hand, the way he treats people, the unprofessional things he does, the way he "white ants" the club himself, the lies he might tell to players and others involved with the club, the way he might disrespect the club and those involved with it, the way he might go missing from club events when he has no real excuse. Some absolutely unbelievable horror stories which have been confirmed with adminitration, board, players and assistant coaches.

Just hypothetically consider that scenario, if that was hypothetically correct and the people you are having a go at had 99% of the knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes and you have absolutely no knowledge, would you say those people are perhaps deserved of your respect and you might gracefully bow to their superior knowledge about a situation. Hypothetically don't you think those people might want North as a club to improve and have a little bit more knowledge than yourelf as to how the club might get there?
Even if those people were completely wrong, do you seriosly think they're just trying to get rid of someone at the club to make their club a worse place?
I honestly have no idea what motivates you

I know about some of these things you allude to. I'm sure there are many that I don't know about. What motivates me to question North fans on this site, is that you all think the public airing of all of this "dirty laundry" is going to somehow benefit the club.

When the Bays hit their lowest ebb a few years back, many of us supporters banded together and wrote a list of issues to the Board, which were responded to individually. Many of us even committed to not commenting too much on the websites, as we felt we were not benefiting the public image of the club by doing so. A smooth transition of a new Board, and the appointment of Mark Mickan as coach, along with promised changes to clubrooms, etc have all occurred since.

If Jars is as bad as you all think he is, why did the Board/Club Administration reappoint him for this season? Public slanging on footy forums is not the way I would go about it, IMHO.

But why would you listen to me? You think I'm merely trying to wind you all up...often I am, and often you easily take the bait...but when it comes to discussing Jarman, I'm simply asking questions and showing my surprise at the comments made here.

[Dutchy]

, why did the Board/Club Administration reappoint him for this season?

I think they have issues with the Board/Admin also TB...if Im right they want both gone...