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Will we lose a coach this year

Postby locky801 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:20 pm

I know, this question gets asked every year but surely there must be a few getting a tad worried at this stage of the season

Mark Harvey

Terry Wallace

Dean Bailey

Matthew Knights


4 that could easily be under the microscope as I post.


From my memory it has been a long long time since 4 coaches at this early stage of the season could be fighting to maintain their jobs,

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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:38 pm

no, not yet
no
no
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Despite today, I think Wallace is on the right track with Richmond. They've shown definite improvement this year.

Bailey - well unless you have the South or St Kilda mentality, he would be safe as houses.

Knights - ditto

Harvey might start to be looked at soon because unlike the other coaches mentioned here, his squad actually has the ability to play finals.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby GWW » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:40 pm

Yeah probably not this year, in a season or 2 though, there could be 2 or 3 sacked in the one year.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby Hondo » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:45 pm

Clubs these days are smarter about making knee-jerk reactions and then having to pay out contracts - especially if it's > 1 year payout which would be the case for the all the first-year coaches

So I'd say no to anyone during the season, except for Wallace if Richmond rack up a series of losses like today.

Wallace would be the only one out of contract this year and i'd be :shock: if they renewed his contract
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby redden whites » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:31 pm

I dont subscribe to the ever repeated "Freo has the list theory" Pav,Mcpharlin,Sandilands,Bell are the standouts for me then I reckon it is a pretty steep slide.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:32 pm

nah Wallace has another year....in fact they are all contracted for at least next year...nothing will change IMO
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby McAlmanac » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:39 pm

redden whites wrote:I dont subscribe to the ever repeated "Freo has the list theory" Pav,Mcpharlin,Sandilands,Bell are the standouts for me then I reckon it is a pretty steep slide.

Mundy, Palmer, Ibbotson, Hayden are another four who are quality.

Mark Harvey is a courageous "footy club" bloke who hasn't got the brains to give himself a headache.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby redden whites » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:34 pm

McAlmanac wrote:Mundy, Palmer, Ibbotson, Hayden are another four who are quality.

Mark Harvey is a courageous "footy club" bloke who hasn't got the brains to give himself a headache.

Gee hardly a group to strike fear into opposition coaches I would not have thought :shock: .They would not even be boot studders at Geelong.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby McAlmanac » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:47 pm

redden whites wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:Mundy, Palmer, Ibbotson, Hayden are another four who are quality.

Mark Harvey is a courageous "footy club" bloke who hasn't got the brains to give himself a headache.

Gee hardly a group to strike fear into opposition coaches I would not have thought :shock: .They would not even be boot studders at Geelong.

Watched many Freo games this year? Mundy is a very athletic footballer who comes out of contract this year and is rumoured to be a target for Hawthorn. who are hardly looking to rebuild at this point. Hayden was in the final squad and only just missed out on All Australian selection last year. Palmer is the red hot favourite for the NAB Rising Star on the back of being a ball magnet in his first season. Ibbotson has been very impressive in his half a dozen or so games.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby GWW » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:50 pm

I rate Crowley as well.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby McAlmanac » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:54 pm

GWW wrote:I rate Crowley as well.

Was trying to stick to Judd like glue last week (with mixed success). I also rate him.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby redden whites » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:56 pm

Not 1 of those 4 would threaten anyone at Geelong . If this is a "finals worthy list " based on the 8 mentioned so far I reckon you are dreaming .
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby GWW » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:16 pm

Maybe not a finals list, but its certainly better than 1W, 9L and 15th on the ladder!
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby McAlmanac » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:17 pm

redden whites wrote:Not 1 of those 4 would threaten anyone at Geelong . If this is a "finals worthy list " based on the 8 mentioned so far I reckon you are dreaming .

You are equating making the finals with the standard of Geelong. Apples and pears. I bet a few of those blokes would slot into North Melbourne, Adelaide or Brisbane and thrive.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby redden whites » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:24 pm

A few might get a game at Adelaide or North.....That makes Mark Harvey a brainless dud ?
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby Sojourner » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:12 am

It was my understanding from this site the Matthew Knights was given the job at Essendon over Mark Harvey because he stated that he could get the side into the finals this year.

If that is the case and Essendon show few signs of improvment at the end of the year he could well get the sack?
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby NO-MERCY » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:47 am

Sojourner wrote:It was my understanding from this site the Matthew Knights was given the job at Essendon over Mark Harvey because he stated that he could get the side into the finals this year.

If that is the case and Essendon show few signs of improvment at the end of the year he could well get the sack?


Oh please, your alot like the other clowns, thinking Knights got the job over Hardwick aswell because he said he'd get them in the finals, what a load of bullsh!t.
I think the people running the show at Essendon know alot more about hiring a coach than certain individuals on here. Freo have a better side at present than Essendon & far less injuries & where are they on the ladder? I know who can't coach.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby JK » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:11 pm

Have to agree with NM there, there's surely no way a club as professional as Essendon (or any for that matter) could have confidently expected to play finals this year ... In fact surely for any club the aim would be to develop a group so that when you return to the finals you're hopefully back on a regular basis? Even if the Bombers had found themselves there this year they may well have struggled to make it in the following years after perhaps losing the likes of Lloyd, Fletcher, Michaels, Lucas etc.

Matthew Knights biggest problem is not of his own doing (ie, the list he inherited) ... And whilst they aren't in the top 8-10 teams, I think some of their losses would have been narrower if not for a pretty poor run of injury to start the year.

He should be right for 2 full seasons at absolute minimum I reckon.
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby JK » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:51 pm

Oh also, I think Terry Wallace needs to seriously come under review ... It's only now (in what, his 3rd or 4th year) that the Tigers have shown any sign of improvement, and they probably slid back another rung after their pummelling on the weekend.

But in answer to the thread question, I don't think any coaches will get the chop this season
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Re: Will we lose a coach this year

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:14 pm

McAlmanac wrote:
redden whites wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:Mundy, Palmer, Ibbotson, Hayden are another four who are quality.

Mark Harvey is a courageous "footy club" bloke who hasn't got the brains to give himself a headache.

Gee hardly a group to strike fear into opposition coaches I would not have thought :shock: .They would not even be boot studders at Geelong.

Watched many Freo games this year? Mundy is a very athletic footballer who comes out of contract this year and is rumoured to be a target for Hawthorn. who are hardly looking to rebuild at this point. Hayden was in the final squad and only just missed out on All Australian selection last year. Palmer is the red hot favourite for the NAB Rising Star on the back of being a ball magnet in his first season. Ibbotson has been very impressive in his half a dozen or so games.



I have watched a lot of Freo games this year and this is my take on the four players mentioned.

David Mundy has ZERO awarness and perhiperal vision and is also as slow as a wet week. He'll get picked up by a Vic club but will only thrive in a good team.

Roger Hayden is massively overrated and turns it over often enough to make a Tiger blush. He's also a bit soft IMO.

Palmer has a massive future in the game but he'll fall away towards the end of the season as he is being asked to be a lead midfielder in his first season. It would be a massive effort for him to maintain the standard as the season gets to July and August.

Ibbotson is another promosing youngster who CAN play.

The big problem with Freo is a lack of legspeed. They have been topping up for the last few years and Harvey dropped the ball on discipline early on during his tenure..something he may never recover from. The Dockers signalled that nothing had changed when they made the short sighted decision to omit Palmer and Ibbottson from the round one clash against Collingwood.

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