Not who you thinkLightning McQueen wrote:Who you talking about?dedja wrote:Never liked him … smug, thinks he’s the smartest person in the room, look at me, look at me, downhill skier.
A spud who played above himself for a while, but can’t pull that off forever.
Comes from good stock, his dad was an absolute champion.
… Darcy Moore. 
Ollie Wineswenchbarwer wrote:I did consider adding him, but he won a B&F and was AA the year he won the Brownlow.Spargo wrote: *cough* Scott Wynd *cough*
For argument's sake:
Libba (1990 Browlow) - 1 B&F (1991), no AA teams.
Wynd (1991) - 1 B&F (1991), 1 AA (1991).
Woewodin (2000) - 1 B&F (2000), no AA.
Priddis (2015) - 1 B&F (2013), 1 AA (2015)
Mitchell (2018) - 3 B&F (2017, 18, 21), 2 AA (2017, 18)
Mitchell probably stiff to be lumped in this list, based on what he's achieved, but there's no way you'd look at him now and think he's a former B&F winner, let alone a Brownlow medalist
Could probably add Cooney to this list as well, .just the sole AA the year he won and no B&Fs.
This one always gets Cats fans up and about.amber_fluid wrote: Ollie Wines
Similar stats to Priddis
Woewodin is a level below even the rest of those blokes, for mine.wenchbarwer wrote:I did consider adding him, but he won a B&F and was AA the year he won the Brownlow.Spargo wrote: *cough* Scott Wynd *cough*
For argument's sake:
Libba (1990 Browlow) - 1 B&F (1991), no AA teams.
Wynd (1991) - 1 B&F (1991), 1 AA (1991).
Woewodin (2000) - 1 B&F (2000), no AA.
Priddis (2015) - 1 B&F (2013), 1 AA (2015)
Mitchell (2018) - 3 B&F (2017, 18, 21), 2 AA (2017, 18)
Mitchell probably stiff to be lumped in this list, based on what he's achieved, but there's no way you'd look at him now and think he's a former B&F winner, let alone a Brownlow medalist
Could probably add Cooney to this list as well, .just the sole AA the year he won and no B&Fs.
I had a crack on the ladder predictor. Admittedly I left the margin for all games at 20 points, but it seemed very improbable. Hawks winning in Brisbane, and in particular GWS beating the Suns away, appear to be a real stretch.wenchbarwer wrote:
Of course they won it, Watson cheated and would head this list of worst Brownlow medallists if he still had one. It was clearly his best season in 2012, drug assisted.dedja wrote:Sam Mitchell/Trent Cotchin 2012 … because they didn’t actually win it.
He's always the name I use when someone tries to claim a player isn't any good because they haven't won a Brownlow.RB wrote:Woewodin is a level below even the rest of those blokes, for mine.wenchbarwer wrote:I did consider adding him, but he won a B&F and was AA the year he won the Brownlow.Spargo wrote: *cough* Scott Wynd *cough*
For argument's sake:
Libba (1990 Browlow) - 1 B&F (1991), no AA teams.
Wynd (1991) - 1 B&F (1991), 1 AA (1991).
Woewodin (2000) - 1 B&F (2000), no AA.
Priddis (2015) - 1 B&F (2013), 1 AA (2015)
Mitchell (2018) - 3 B&F (2017, 18, 21), 2 AA (2017, 18)
Mitchell probably stiff to be lumped in this list, based on what he's achieved, but there's no way you'd look at him now and think he's a former B&F winner, let alone a Brownlow medalist
Could probably add Cooney to this list as well, .just the sole AA the year he won and no B&Fs.
Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
daysofourlives wrote:Of course they won it, Watson cheated and would head this list of worst Brownlow medallists if he still had one. It was clearly his best season in 2012, drug assisted.dedja wrote:Sam Mitchell/Trent Cotchin 2012 … because they didn’t actually win it.
I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
Yeah, nah.daysofourlives wrote:Of course they won it, Watson cheated and would head this list of worst Brownlow medallists if he still had one. It was clearly his best season in 2012, drug assisted.dedja wrote:Sam Mitchell/Trent Cotchin 2012 … because they didn’t actually win it.
Yeah, nah.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
You’d have to be pretty lucky to be gifted 2 BrownlowsRB wrote:Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
Hawks dont have to win in Brisbane as long as Adelaide does the damage to Pies % this week, it only needs a 6-8 goal win. And if the Giants can beat North by about 100 this week they wont have to beat The Suns either so if the margin that Giants beat North by and Crows beat Pies by is around 150 the Giants % will be better than Pies. All other top 9 games ive done a 20 pt margin. Hawks and Brisbane likely to be playing for 4th spot, Gold Coast in 3rdRB wrote:I had a crack on the ladder predictor. Admittedly I left the margin for all games at 20 points, but it seemed very improbable. Hawks winning in Brisbane, and in particular GWS beating the Suns away, appear to be a real stretch.wenchbarwer wrote:
He got bonus points for being a good looking rooster.amber_fluid wrote:You’d have to be pretty lucky to be gifted 2 BrownlowsRB wrote:Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
And by the biggest margin ever and highest tally ever
Some people get everythingLightning McQueen wrote:He got bonus points for being a good looking rooster.amber_fluid wrote:You’d have to be pretty lucky to be gifted 2 BrownlowsRB wrote:Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
And by the biggest margin ever and highest tally ever
The only reason Dipper and Libba won theirs ...Lightning McQueen wrote:He got bonus points for being a good looking rooster.amber_fluid wrote:You’d have to be pretty lucky to be gifted 2 BrownlowsRB wrote:Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
And by the biggest margin ever and highest tally ever
1 was lucky.amber_fluid wrote:You’d have to be pretty lucky to be gifted 2 BrownlowsRB wrote:Does winning two of them make it a bit harder to make a case for him though? I think it does.daysofourlives wrote:I also think Cripps is worthy of being in this discussion, he has benefitted enormously from there being very limited competent footballers in a team that won just enough matches.
And by the biggest margin ever and highest tally ever
I console myself that Cripps has no shoulders. Literally all I've got...amber_fluid wrote:Some people get everythingLightning McQueen wrote:
He got bonus points for being a good looking rooster.
Then there’s us
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