Booney wrote:That's not going to bring the left and right closer together.
That place is absolutely cooked...
How's the political division now? How are they ever going to mend this mess they've got themselves in? What a sh1tshow of a country. And we look up to them!!!! WTF for?
We don't look up to them, I sure as hell don't anyway.
It's a red letter day in the US and you'd like to think it's the start of a new America where civility and compassion rise up over hate and division....but they're not that smart. What is bad will only get worse.
Hearing him talk about the price of the Second Amendment is the odd gun death.....and it's a price worth paying......one suggests he never thought it would be his life that was lost for the cause.
The US is in such a pathetic state that a tragedy like this cannot be universally condemned as it should be, but rather used to divide the nation further along the lines of the ‘radical left’ vs the ‘crazy right’.
Trump’s public response was a politicised bucket of shite designed to use the tragedy for his own political means … pathetic.
The country is faaarked beyond redemption, it will take decades to recover from its current decrepit state, if ever. Trump didn’t create this, he just stoked what had been smouldering under the surface for decades.
I doubt there’s anything that Charlie Kirk believed in that I would ever remotely agree with, but that’s completely irrelevant. He at least wasn’t afraid to debate his views, which is the cornerstone of any democracy.
He has now seemingly paid for his views with his life, a tragedy in anyone’s books.
Unfortunately, it’s not the first time, nor the last that this will happen in the US.
What a complete clusterfaaark this once proud country has become.
dedja wrote:The US is in such a pathetic state that a tragedy like this cannot be universally condemned as it should be, but rather used to divide the nation further along the lines of the ‘radical left’ vs the ‘crazy right’.
Trump’s public response was a politicised bucket of shite designed to use the tragedy for his own political means … pathetic.
The country is faaarked beyond redemption, it will take decades to recover from its current decrepit state, if ever. Trump didn’t create this, he just stoked what had been smouldering under the surface for decades.
I doubt there’s anything that Charlie Kirk believed in that I would ever remotely agree with, but that’s completely irrelevant. He at least wasn’t afraid to debate his views, which is the cornerstone of any democracy.
He has now seemingly paid for his views with his life, a tragedy in anyone’s books.
Unfortunately, it’s not the first time, nor the last that this will happen in the US.
What a complete clusterfaaark this once proud country has become.
This is really the key point, I think. The stuff he spouted was vile, but did he deserve to be shot in public like a mad dog for it? Absolutely not.
I love that an elderly Bob Katter threatening to punch a journo is our version of this, you can debate the merits of John Howard's leadership until the cows come home, but what he did in the wake of Port Arthur was exceptional.
How much of what this guy preached he actually believed in vs used to gain notoriety? What's that saying... f..k around and find out? Surely no one would actually believe in half the stuff he was saying. Not condoning his murder though.