2024 AFL Silly Season

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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:44 am

bertiebeatle1 wrote:Question for the Norh guys on here and I mean this with no disrespect, would you take Houston? He musn't want to go there (Reportedly offered more coin at North) but with the position North are in, would it matter if he wants to or not? Sifting through all the rubbish online, North fans seem split about this


Absolutely we would take Houston, if he didn't want to play for us he would have played hardball and said I only want to be traded to Collingwood. This hasn't happened.

He is on a contract at Port that is well below his current market value (signed before his 2 AA's)
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:45 am

bertiebeatle1 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Holding someone on your list who is more than likely not going to play AFL or give that spot to a kid with potential to play 200+ games.

Tell me that isn't a "now" decision....

Port can do what they want, but we can also call it for what it is.


He isn’t taking up a kids list spot lol


How so?
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Jim05 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:50 am

Dutchy wrote:
He is on a contract at Port that is well below his current market value (signed before his 2 AA's)


Probably best not to sign a 6 year contract then
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:21 pm

Trader wrote:
Booney wrote:Houston for Lukosious and Richards - even? - Not at all. If we value Houston as 2 x 1st rounders this isn't even close.
Pick 13 vs Ports 2025 Rd 1 pick - even - Agreed.
Pick 29 to take on Atkins’s salary dump - even - I feel sick thinking about it.
Pick 36 vs Pick 39 and 58 - even - Potentially using 36 to get higher, ok I guess.


Yeah I wasn't convinced the first line is even, hence the question mark, and the word 'perhaps' in the sentence before.

Dan is a duel AA, and he's important to our structure as seen with our poor finals performance.
But then again, he's a half back flanker vs a tall forward, and I rate tall forwards higher.
There is also the fact that Jack is 3 years younger, but you could counter that by saying KPP don't last as long as flankers, so perhaps their lifespan isn't all that different.

As I said, happy we said no, but will be interesting to see what unfolds.

As we know, Ken is happy to get in players that aren't getting a game at their current side, and a few of them turned out ok this season (Sweet the main one), so perhaps there is something there with Richards, although I don't see it.

Good to see we have decided to go ahead and do nothing this trade period just keep Houston and our picks 39, 58 forget about bringing in Lukosious and Richards who we appeared to be chasing at one stage
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:33 pm

Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:33 pm

Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:33 pm

We'll get Lukosius still.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:34 pm

Booney wrote:We'll get Lukosius still.

Doesn't appear as though we are prepared to part with future 1st round so not sure how we will get him
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:35 pm

Gilligan wrote:Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3


Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 14 and 73
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:36 pm

Booney wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3


Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 14 and 73

But to get that pick 14 they gave future 1st and future 2nd to Hawthorn last week
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:39 pm

Gilligan wrote:
Booney wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3


Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 14 and 73

But to get that pick 14 they gave future 1st and future 2nd to Hawthorn last week


Fair call, so it's actually :

Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 2025 First round, 2025 second round and 73
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:41 pm

Thought Port moving up from picks 39, 58 to 13,29, 36 plus getting in Lukosious, Richards (both of who we chased) and Atkins who at pinch can play half back for losing Houston and future1st round pick was a bit of a win as got us higher into this years supposed deep super draft
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Gilligan » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:42 pm

Booney wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Booney wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Carlton must really think there is a special player available at pick 3 this year when they have effectively paid pick 12 , future 1st round, future 2nd round pick 73 and Matt Owies for Pick 3 , 63, 68 . Seems a large price to pay for pick 3


Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 14 and 73

But to get that pick 14 they gave future 1st and future 2nd to Hawthorn last week


Fair call, so it's actually :

Carlton
Receives: Picks 3, 63 and 68
Gives up: Matt Owies, picks 12, 2025 First round, 2025 second round and 73


Yes which seemed to me to be a high price for basically 3rd round this year
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:44 pm

Gilligan wrote:Thought Port moving up from picks 39, 58 to 13,29, 36 plus getting in Lukosious, Richards (both of who we chased) and Atkins who at pinch can play half back for losing Houston and future1st round pick was a bit of a win as got us higher into this years supposed deep super draft


We'd still be very keen to get into this years draft, not sure how we do that now though.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:51 pm

I dunno maybe I'm a little biased but I thought Richards was great given the little opportunity he's had at the pies.
Good decision maker, quick, takes a good overhead mark and he's mature bodied.
I'm happy to keep him.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:52 pm

Dutchy wrote:
bertiebeatle1 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Holding someone on your list who is more than likely not going to play AFL or give that spot to a kid with potential to play 200+ games.

Tell me that isn't a "now" decision....

Port can do what they want, but we can also call it for what it is.


He isn’t taking up a kids list spot lol


How so?


We weren’t trading a pick for him. His part in that proposed trade was as a salary dump from GC
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby mots02 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:58 pm

tigerpie wrote:I dunno maybe I'm a little biased but I thought Richards was great given the little opportunity he's had at the pies.
Good decision maker, quick, takes a good overhead mark and he's mature bodied.
I'm happy to keep him.


You've kept that well hidden if you are ;)
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:03 pm

What the hell are Carlton doing?
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:10 pm

Armchair expert wrote:What the hell are Carlton doing?


Doing what Carlton does...
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:12 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bertiebeatle1 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Holding someone on your list who is more than likely not going to play AFL or give that spot to a kid with potential to play 200+ games.

Tell me that isn't a "now" decision....

Port can do what they want, but we can also call it for what it is.


He isn’t taking up a kids list spot lol


How so?


We weren’t trading a pick for him. His part in that proposed trade was as a salary dump from GC


My point is he still takes a spot on your list, one that could be used for a kid who has growth potential.
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