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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby brod » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:58 am

If umpires are going to start paying out of bound deliberate for actions like Wakelins tonight, we will have matches that have 30 free kicks for similar decisions. Its all about being somewhat consistent and the supporters know that this is simply NOT happening AT ALL
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Wedgie » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:02 am

brod wrote:If umpires are going to start paying out of bound deliberate for actions like Wakelins tonight, we will have matches that have 30 free kicks for similar decisions. Its all about being somewhat consistent and the supporters know that this is simply NOT happening AT ALL


Could not agree more, well said. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby sturt1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:25 am

brod wrote:If umpires are going to start paying out of bound deliberate for actions like Wakelins tonight, we will have matches that have 30 free kicks for similar decisions. Its all about being somewhat consistent and the supporters know that this is simply NOT happening AT ALL



its the only descision that went the crows way all night. The only thing that was consistent for the whole night was the armchair ride collingwood got
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby sturt1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:35 am

Wedgie wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Where was he trying to kick the ball then Wedgie?


He was trying to kick the ball away from Nick Gill, that's the whole idea of a close contest with an opposition player, you get it away from him. It was actually to Collingwood's disadvantage at that stage if the ball went out (and its what Gill would have been striving for it he had the chance), Wakelin would have liked to have kept it in play.
Common sense.

But that's not even the issue even though its a non issue, the point I made was "If umpires had any sort of conisistency to their game it wouldn't have been called in a million years (or a million others that are let go would be called)."


That could be said about every ball going out of bounds since the rule came in. Theoretically all a player is ever trying to do is kick or handball or tap/spoil a ball away from the opposition when the ball goes out of bounds. Here is question for you, would wakelin have done the same thing if scores were level (very late in the game) and the line happened to be the crows attacking goal line? Torneys was a very different situation and that is he had the footy in his hands, the collingwood player fell on top of him (pushed him in the back) and had he not handballed he would have been done for holding the ball. The crows were hammered for holding the ball last night - play on!
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby sturt1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:38 am

NFC wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Another free kick that I was ropable about was when a free was given against a Crows player who hip and shouldered the Collingwood player away beautifully only to have the umpire call it wasn't within 10.
IMHO it was about 5m away but even if it wasn't why pay that and not pay frees when players are hip and shouldering each other 150 metres away from the ball?

That was against Porplyzia. Disgraceful decision. The ball was right there.

And what about the in the back paid against Massie to Buckley? The PERFECT tackle.


exactly right but everyone is crying about wakelin. Sucked in collingwood
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby sturt1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:40 am

hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Dutchy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:29 am

Most agree is was deliberate and thats my point, consistency is another arguement
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby stan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:56 am

sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide


At one point in the second quater the free kick count 9 - 2 in adelaides favour.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby sydney-dog » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:05 am

Great win by the club, even though we are not in the top 4 we do go in to the finals with some confidence, we have won 4 out of our last 5 games and have a good record against other top 8 sides, Sydney, Power, Kanga's, Hawks and Collingwood.

On the up side, last night we still did not play our best footy, so hopefully their is more improvement to come

The Crows should attack the finals with a everything to gain, nothing to lose mentality

Great to see Gill continuing his good footy, my view is, youu can be extremely confident that McGregor will be at either Richmond or WB next year, Perrie at Freo and Messen to Carlton
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby stan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:11 am

sydney-dog wrote:Great win by the club, even though we are not in the top 4 we do go in to the finals with some confidence, we have won 4 out of our last 5 games and have a good record against other top 8 sides, Sydney, Power, Kanga's, Hawks and Collingwood.

On the up side, last night we still did not play our best footy, so hopefully their is more improvement to come

The Crows should attack the finals with a everything to gain, nothing to lose mentality

Great to see Gill continuing his good footy, my view is, youu can be extremely confident that McGregor will be at either Richmond or WB next year, Perrie at Freo and Messen to Carlton


Knowing freo you'll probably get there number one pick for him ;)
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Dogwatcher » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:14 am

sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide


I hope you're kidding?????

I'm not going to comment further on the umpires.

But great win Adelaide. Held sway and each time we reeled you in, you managed to pull away.

Plus our disposal was poor. We turned over the ball at least three times that resulted directly in Crows goals. Poor.

Great to see the old warhorses Riccuito and Buckley having an influence at various points too.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby stan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:46 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide


I hope you're kidding?????

I'm not going to comment further on the umpires.

But great win Adelaide. Held sway and each time we reeled you in, you managed to pull away.

Plus our disposal was poor. We turned over the ball at least three times that resulted directly in Crows goals. Poor.

Great to see the old warhorses Riccuito and Buckley having an influence at various points too.


You guys normally get a good run, every now and then you will get a few against you.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:56 am

brod wrote:If umpires are going to start paying out of bound deliberate for actions like Wakelins tonight, we will have matches that have 30 free kicks for similar decisions. Its all about being somewhat consistent and the supporters know that this is simply NOT happening AT ALL

I agree the umpiring is all guess work this year, the players must think it's a lucky dip. I thought Wakelin put it out deliberately but 50/50 if it should be a free. Stevens was pinged for deliberate last week against Bris. after kicking it 30m, around his body under pressure and on a 30-40 degree angle to the boundry line, bounces numerous times then rolls out! I'd be more concerned about that being a free.
Porplyzia put a great bump during a marking contest in the 1st half, marked the ball and was done for in the back! He didn't use hands nor was it in the back, it was a text book example of what should be done in a marking contest, I'm confused.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby hearts on fire » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:59 am

stan wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide


I hope you're kidding?????

I'm not going to comment further on the umpires.

But great win Adelaide. Held sway and each time we reeled you in, you managed to pull away.

Plus our disposal was poor. We turned over the ball at least three times that resulted directly in Crows goals. Poor.

Great to see the old warhorses Riccuito and Buckley having an influence at various points too.


You guys normally get a good run, every now and then you will get a few against you.


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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Psyber » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:25 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide


I hope you're kidding?????

I'm not going to comment further on the umpires.

But great win Adelaide. Held sway and each time we reeled you in, you managed to pull away.

Plus our disposal was poor. We turned over the ball at least three times that resulted directly in Crows goals. Poor.

Great to see the old warhorses Riccuito and Buckley having an influence at various points too.

I'm really puzzled.. Why would anyone who doesn't have to live there identify with Collingwood! 8)
I agree with your summation though.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:40 pm

sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide



Typical one eyed Crow bull5hit. You guys got a 9-2 flying start courtesy of the maggots. They then squared it up but delivered the coup de grace to decide the game with that Wakelin call. Ungrateful peanut.

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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby NFC » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:44 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide



Typical one eyed Crow bull5hit. You guys got a 9-2 flying start courtesy of the maggots. They then squared it up but delivered the coup de grace to decide the game with that Wakelin call. Ungrateful peanut.

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* Clarke holding the ball by Knights
* Clarke holding the ball by Gill
* Buckley in the back against Massie
* Gill not getting in the back

Yes we had some frees paid to us that weren't there, but the Pies also got some very favourable decisions.
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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:45 pm

The most curious (non-umpiring) call of the night belonged to Dennis Commetti. 'No one would look forward to playing them (The Cows that is) in the finals'. This implies that the Crows are about to do some serious damage in the next few weeks but I'd have to disagree because as soon as Burton and The Roo went off the field the Crows were about as dangerous as an Englishman at Wimbledon. Both sides turned the ball over constantly in what was a pretty average display of skills and if Collingwood can get Didak and Fraser back next week I reckon they can win the rematch, if it eventuates.

Neither side can win the flag IMO.

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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:46 pm

NFC wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
sturt1 wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:The Adelaide player did a very similar thing earlier on and they didnt call it. I can understand them calling it, but they could at least be consistant


up until that point, the umpires were consistant, consistant in shafting adelaide



Typical one eyed Crow bull5hit. You guys got a 9-2 flying start courtesy of the maggots. They then squared it up but delivered the coup de grace to decide the game with that Wakelin call. Ungrateful peanut.

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* Clarke holding the ball by Knights
* Clarke holding the ball by Gill
* Buckley in the back against Massie
* Gill not getting in the back

Yes we had some frees paid to us that weren't there, but the Pies also got some very favourable decisions.


So you'd no problem with the umpires giving the Pies 9 of the first 11 free kicks next week? Didn't think so! The umpiring was pathetic last night (yes, both ways NFC).

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Re: Colingwood vs Adelaide

Postby Dutchy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:14 pm

any crow fans that wernt happy with the umpiring last night towards their team have NFI!!!
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