Riccuito Retires

[haloman]

Ignorance????? You can't even spell the man's name correctly and your calling me ignorant! There is no way you can compare players of yester year to todays footballers. We all know today's footballers are athlete's first, footballers second. Your would be right if you said players such as Robran and Ebert were had better skills but don't give me that "He's not in their catagory" rubbish. What he bought to the Adelaide Football Club can't just be measured in All-Australian jumpers or Brownlow medals........the same as legands like Sticks, Ebert and Robran. If Robran hadn't had his knee ruined by bloody Lee Mathews on the SCG he would probably be remembered as the greatest of all time. NO ONE sits in that catagory along side him. Roo has EARNT the right to take a high standing along side the games greats IMO. His carear speaks for itself. You could see his club lift every time the man stepped on the park. You could watch the man perform acts of courage and skill only true champions can perform. I'll say it again...........football is a very different sport now to what it was when the likes of Robran and Ebert graced Prospect and Alberton. But give the man his dues and don't underestimate his influence on the Adelaide Football Club and what it means to supporters like me who would drive 7 hours just to watch the man play. Sometimes I reckon people confuse skillfulness with greatness. Another "ridiculous" statement I suppose Rod.

Mate if you're going to open a post siting the spelling of a players name incorrectly is a sign of ignorance it would pay to ensure you get them all correct yourself. Might also pay to use a spell check and grammar check feature for the rest of your post as well Before you have a crack at me you were the one who brought spelling into this.

As for the rest, sure he was an important player and yes he is very high on the list of players who have played for the Crows but that does not make him an all time great. For importance to the Crows over the years put it in perspective. They've won two flags. Without McLeod, Jarman or Hart they wouldn't have been able to win either. They won one of them without Ricuttio in the team and had he not played in the other i doubt it would have made any difference. I'd say those 3 have been more valuable to the Adelaide Football Club personally. Just my opinion though and you don't have to agree with it.

Difference is penut I didn't accuse someone of being ignorant. Did I spell PENUT and IGNORANT correctly.
No one is disputing others influence on the AFC such as McLeod, Jarman etc. least of all me. Riccuto put bums on seats at AAMI. I hate watching footy at AAMI.......but I went along to watch Roo's 300th and I'll be there next week (hopefully he plays) What's with you people.
Before accusing others of being ignorant take a good look at the Roo's CV because at the end of your time............that's what people will remember.
Amatures.

[Psyber]

... I also agree that McLeod is a better player.

Undoubtedly skilfull, McLeod, but I don't think he has been as consistent and reliable as Roo.

But in the end it doesn't matter - it all passes - and people's emotions shape their memories of the past players' skills, and it loses meaning.

[rod_rooster]

Ignorance????? You can't even spell the man's name correctly and your calling me ignorant! There is no way you can compare players of yester year to todays footballers. We all know today's footballers are athlete's first, footballers second. Your would be right if you said players such as Robran and Ebert were had better skills but don't give me that "He's not in their catagory" rubbish. What he bought to the Adelaide Football Club can't just be measured in All-Australian jumpers or Brownlow medals........the same as legands like Sticks, Ebert and Robran. If Robran hadn't had his knee ruined by bloody Lee Mathews on the SCG he would probably be remembered as the greatest of all time. NO ONE sits in that catagory along side him. Roo has EARNT the right to take a high standing along side the games greats IMO. His carear speaks for itself. You could see his club lift every time the man stepped on the park. You could watch the man perform acts of courage and skill only true champions can perform. I'll say it again...........football is a very different sport now to what it was when the likes of Robran and Ebert graced Prospect and Alberton. But give the man his dues and don't underestimate his influence on the Adelaide Football Club and what it means to supporters like me who would drive 7 hours just to watch the man play. Sometimes I reckon people confuse skillfulness with greatness. Another "ridiculous" statement I suppose Rod.

Mate if you're going to open a post siting the spelling of a players name incorrectly is a sign of ignorance it would pay to ensure you get them all correct yourself. Might also pay to use a spell check and grammar check feature for the rest of your post as well Before you have a crack at me you were the one who brought spelling into this.

As for the rest, sure he was an important player and yes he is very high on the list of players who have played for the Crows but that does not make him an all time great. For importance to the Crows over the years put it in perspective. They've won two flags. Without McLeod, Jarman or Hart they wouldn't have been able to win either. They won one of them without Ricuttio in the team and had he not played in the other i doubt it would have made any difference. I'd say those 3 have been more valuable to the Adelaide Football Club personally. Just my opinion though and you don't have to agree with it.

Difference is penut I didn't accuse someone of being ignorant. Did I spell PENUT and IGNORANT correctly.
No one is disputing others influence on the AFC such as McLeod, Jarman etc. least of all me. Riccuto put bums on seats at AAMI. I hate watching footy at AAMI.......but I went along to watch Roo's 300th and I'll be there next week (hopefully he plays) What's with you people.
Before accusing others of being ignorant take a good look at the Roo's CV because at the end of your time............that's what people will remember.
Amatures.

Mate i didn't refer to anyone as a peanut either (by the way you didn't spell peanut correctly ). By the way you spelled Roo's name incorrectly as well

Don't get angry because i pointed out your many spelling and grammatical errors. As i said you were the one who brought spelling into this. If you can't spell or use the English language correctly I'd suggest you refrain from using another person's spelling error to have a crack at them.

As i said, it is just my opinion and you don't have to agree to it just as i don't have to agree with yours.

[haloman]

Ignorance????? You can't even spell the man's name correctly and your calling me ignorant! There is no way you can compare players of yester year to todays footballers. We all know today's footballers are athlete's first, footballers second. Your would be right if you said players such as Robran and Ebert were had better skills but don't give me that "He's not in their catagory" rubbish. What he bought to the Adelaide Football Club can't just be measured in All-Australian jumpers or Brownlow medals........the same as legands like Sticks, Ebert and Robran. If Robran hadn't had his knee ruined by bloody Lee Mathews on the SCG he would probably be remembered as the greatest of all time. NO ONE sits in that catagory along side him. Roo has EARNT the right to take a high standing along side the games greats IMO. His carear speaks for itself. You could see his club lift every time the man stepped on the park. You could watch the man perform acts of courage and skill only true champions can perform. I'll say it again...........football is a very different sport now to what it was when the likes of Robran and Ebert graced Prospect and Alberton. But give the man his dues and don't underestimate his influence on the Adelaide Football Club and what it means to supporters like me who would drive 7 hours just to watch the man play. Sometimes I reckon people confuse skillfulness with greatness. Another "ridiculous" statement I suppose Rod.

Mate if you're going to open a post siting the spelling of a players name incorrectly is a sign of ignorance it would pay to ensure you get them all correct yourself. Might also pay to use a spell check and grammar check feature for the rest of your post as well Before you have a crack at me you were the one who brought spelling into this.

As for the rest, sure he was an important player and yes he is very high on the list of players who have played for the Crows but that does not make him an all time great. For importance to the Crows over the years put it in perspective. They've won two flags. Without McLeod, Jarman or Hart they wouldn't have been able to win either. They won one of them without Ricuttio in the team and had he not played in the other i doubt it would have made any difference. I'd say those 3 have been more valuable to the Adelaide Football Club personally. Just my opinion though and you don't have to agree with it.

Difference is penut I didn't accuse someone of being ignorant. Did I spell PENUT and IGNORANT correctly.
No one is disputing others influence on the AFC such as McLeod, Jarman etc. least of all me. Riccuto put bums on seats at AAMI. I hate watching footy at AAMI.......but I went along to watch Roo's 300th and I'll be there next week (hopefully he plays) What's with you people.
Before accusing others of being ignorant take a good look at the Roo's CV because at the end of your time............that's what people will remember.
Amatures.

Mate i didn't refer to anyone as a peanut either (by the way you didn't spell peanut correctly ). By the way you spelled Roo's name incorrectly as well

Don't get angry because i pointed out your many spelling and grammatical errors. As i said you were the one who brought spelling into this. If you can't spell or use the English language correctly I'd suggest you refrain from using another person's spelling error to have a crack at them.

As i said, it is just my opinion and you don't have to agree to it just as i don't have to agree with yours.

Rod.......... Did I spell penut correctly..........
first time I've caught something fishing in ages.
Everyone has their own take on different players and the impact they may or may not have had on our game. You don't have to agree........that the beauty of these forums.
Personally I don't really give a s**t what anyone else thinks about Roo's standing in the game....... It's all a point of view.
It just amazes me how often people try and bring this bloke down........he really has been a blue print on how to play sport with limited skills. He is a player who has done the absolute maxamim with the talent he has............ that alone deserves respect.
8 All-Australian jumpers and a Brownlow just seals the deal IMO.
Or were 8 selection panels and a host of umpires wrong?

[rod_rooster]

Rod.......... Did I spell penut correctly..........
first time I've caught something fishing in ages.
Everyone has their own take on different players and the impact they may or may not have had on our game. You don't have to agree........that the beauty of these forums.
Personally I don't really give a s**t what anyone else thinks about Roo's standing in the game....... It's all a point of view.
It just amazes me how often people try and bring this bloke down........he really has been a blue print on how to play sport with limited skills. He is a player who has done the absolute maxamim with the talent he has............ that alone deserves respect.
8 All-Australian jumpers and a Brownlow just seals the deal IMO.
Or were 8 selection panels and a host of umpires wrong?

Done the absolute maximum with limited skills. I agree fully with this. Don't get me wrong. As i have said i think the guy has been a super player and one of the best in the last 10-15 years for the Crows. Never argued that. Worked hard and made the most of his ability. Lets agree halo

By the way, did you deliberately make all the other spelling errors including Roo's name?

[haloman]

Rod.......... Did I spell penut correctly..........
first time I've caught something fishing in ages.
Everyone has their own take on different players and the impact they may or may not have had on our game. You don't have to agree........that the beauty of these forums.
Personally I don't really give a s**t what anyone else thinks about Roo's standing in the game....... It's all a point of view.
It just amazes me how often people try and bring this bloke down........he really has been a blue print on how to play sport with limited skills. He is a player who has done the absolute maxamim with the talent he has............ that alone deserves respect.
8 All-Australian jumpers and a Brownlow just seals the deal IMO.
Or were 8 selection panels and a host of umpires wrong?

Done the absolute maximum with limited skills. I agree fully with this. Don't get me wrong. As i have said i think the guy has been a super player and one of the best in the last 10-15 years for the Crows. Never argued that. Worked hard and made the most of his ability. Lets agree halo

By the way, did you deliberately make all the other spelling errors including Roo's name?

Did you?
Why do you think I just leave it at Roo?

[devilsadvocate]

he really has been a blue print on how to play sport with limited skills. He is a player who has done the absolute maxamim with the talent he has............ that alone deserves respect.
8 All-Australian jumpers and a Brownlow just seals the deal IMO.
Or were 8 selection panels and a host of umpires wrong?

Finally, you make some sense.

The reason for my original post is the constant ass-kissing around Roo being the best and comparing him with some of the games absolute greats.

The reason he isn't in the same category is the skill difference. I agree, Roo deserves respect for what he's done, but he's not a champion.

And quit with the All Australian rubbish. You can't compare players on All Australian jumpers. FFS the credibility of the All Aus system went out the window when Pavlich was picked at full back.

[TroyGFC]

Yeah Rod.........I bet the new Governor bloody glad it was announced today and not 3 weeks ago.If Bickley ended up Chairman of SA Great after being a car body sprayer and a dime a dozen player at best ( lets not forget father of the year in SA) then Roo might be White House bound I would think.

He was actually a Maintenance Sparky in the paintshop at Mitsi's.

[redden whites]

If Bickley ended up Chairman of SA Great after being a car body sprayer and a dime a dozen player at best ( lets not forget father of the year in SA) then Roo might be White House bound I would think.

McDermott, Captain 4 years led the club to 0 Premierships,

McGuiness, Captain 2 Years led the club to 0 Premierships,

Bickley, Captain 4 years led the club to 2 Premierships,

Ricciutio, Captain 6 1/2 years 0 Premierships.

Roo is one of the Crows best ever players, yet it is the premiership teams and captains thereof that have there names eternally in the history of the club.

If Roo leads the Crows to win their last three games of this season, he will get a crack at having another attempt at doing what Bickley did and leading the club to a premiership. Bickley may well be described as an average player, yet he had it when it counted the most. Before people annoint Riccutio as the greatest captain ever, lets see if he can do the same when it counts.

what absolute tripe............... when it counted ..oh please made a fool of himself in the 97 G.F. (only possibly beaten in the worst grand final performances in history by Darren Jarman for Hawthorn in'91 and Mark Bairstows effort in another year) and is still called Captain invisible in our house that has 3 crows members in it. So that makes Michael Tuck possibly the greatest captain in history?He was a Blight appointee to make a statement for heavens sake

[Dutchy]

Interesting that no Crows fans rate Edwards in their Top 5 players of the AFC, again a victim of not having a strong character and media presence....

[Psyber]

Interesting that no Crows fans rate Edwards in their Top 5 players of the AFC, again a victim of not having a strong character and media presence....

Actually, I do, but I don't think he'll get the Captaincy anymore than McLeod will. You have to look right for TV.
[I'm not saying you should have to - just that it is a factor.]

[NFC]

Interesting that no Crows fans rate Edwards in their Top 5 players of the AFC, again a victim of not having a strong character and media presence....

Edwards is a gun, but I probably wouldn't have him in our Top 5.

[sydney-dog]

Edwards definitely in my most consistent top 5 but probably not in my best 5 footballers at the AFC

1. Roo
2. Macca
3. Hart
4. Modra
5. Smart
6. Rehn
7. Edwards

[sydney-dog]

My Apology, my top 9, the reason for no #10, you can probably throw a balanket over 5 - 6 players

1. Roo
2. Macca
3. Hart
4. D Jarman
5. Goodwin
6. Smart
7. Modra
8. Edwards
9. Rehn

[Hondo]

Sydney-Dog that's very close to my top 5

I had Rehn (your number 6) in but I would have had Smart at 6 anyway.

[devilsadvocate]

You are all forgetting Ian Downsborough (The Powwaaa are also guilty !!!) and Eddie Hocking. Shining lights of the AFC.

[smithy]

Shane Tongerie gets the nod from me..

[devilsadvocate]

I'll nominate for Blighty....

David Pitman


And for no other reason than his cool name Adam Ugrinic.

[smac]

My two nominations are already there... Hocking and Tongerie. They both had about 2 minutes of football equal to that of anyone.

Don't bring up the rest of their time.

[GWW]

I'll nominate for Blighty....

David Pitman


And for no other reason than his cool name Adam Ugrinic.

Oh come on DA, that post was pathetic!!