NAB Rising Stars - Nominations

[Dutchy]

From 2004 onwards (good ones in bold IMO )-

2007 Nominees
Round 1: Patrick Ryder (Essendon)
Round 2: Cameron Wood (Brisbane Lions)
Round 3: Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
Round 4: Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
Round 5: Joel Selwood (Geelong)
Round 6: Ricky Petterd (Melbourne)
Round 7: Jesse W. Smith (Kangaroos)
Round 8: Shaun Higgins (Western Bulldogs)
Round 9: Mitchell Clark (Brisbane Lions)
Round 10: Bryce Gibbs (Carlton)
Round 11: Shannon Hurn (West Coast Eagles)
Round 12: Robert Gray (Port Adelaide)
Round 13: Martin Clarke (Collingwood)

2006 Nominees
Round 1: Marc Murphy (Carlton)
Round 2: Dale Thomas (Collingwood)
Round 3: Danyle Pearce (Port Adelaide)
Round 4: Andrew Raines (Richmond)
Round 5: Heath Shaw (Collingwood)
Round 6: Dean Polo (Richmond)
Round 7: Clint Bartram (Melbourne)
Round 8: Michael Rischitelli (Brisbane Lions)
Round 9: Brad Symes (Port Adelaide)
Round 10: Matt Rosa (West Coast Eagles)
Round 11: Jacob Surjan (Port Adelaide)
Round 12: Clinton Young (Hawthorn)
Round 13: Cheynee Stiller (Brisbane Lions)
Round 14: Grant Birchall (Hawthorn)
Round 15: Matthew Moody (Brisbane Lions)
Round 16: Troy Chaplin (Port Adelaide)
Round 17: Andrew Swallow (Kangaroos)
Round 18: Matthew Bate (Melbourne)
Round 19: Nathan Foley (Richmond)
Round 20: Nathan Jones (Melbourne)
Round 21: Brad Moran (Kangaroos)
Round 22: Mark LeCras (West Coast Eagles)

[edit] 2005 nominees
Round 1: Kepler Bradley (Essendon)
Round 2: Shannon Byrnes (Geelong)
Round 3: Brock McLean (Melbourne)
Round 4: Lance Franklin (Hawthorn)
Round 5: Jason Laycock (Essendon)
Round 6: Justin Sherman (Brisbane Lions)
Round 7: Will Minson (Western Bulldogs)
Round 8: Brett Deledio (Richmond)
Round 9: Colin Sylvia (Melbourne)
Round 10: Travis Cloke (Collingwood)
Round 11: Jordan Lewis (Hawthorn)
Round 12: Jed Adcock (Brisbane Lions)
Round 13: Ryan Griffen (Western Bulldogs)
Round 14: David Mundy (Fremantle)
Round 15: troy Selwood (Brisbane Lions)
Round 16: Adam Selwood (West Coast Eagles)
Round 17: Anthony Corrie (Brisbane Lions)
Round 18: Kade Simpson (Carlton)
Round 19: Jarryd Roughead (Hawthorn)
Round 20: Adam Bentick (Carlton)
Round 21" Nathan Ablett
Round 22: Raphael Clarke (St Kilda)

[edit] 2004 Nominees
Round 1: Aaron Davey (Melbourne)
Round 2: Michael Firrito (Kangaroos)
Round 3: Jared Rivers (Melbourne)
Round 4: Paul Bevan (Sydney Swans)
Round 5: Andrew Walker (Carlton)
Round 6: Kane Tenace (Geelong)
Round 7: Brent Staker (West Coast Eagles)
Round 8: Andrew Mackie (Geelong)
Round 9: Guy Richards (Collingwood)
Round 10:Brent Moloney (Melbourne)
Round 11:Brett Ebert (Port Adelaide)
Round 12:Richard Hadley (Brisbane Lions)
Round 13:Karl Norman (Carlton)
Round 14:Jay Schulz (Richmond)
Round 15:Mark Seaby (West Coast Eagles)
Round 16:Brent Reilly (Adelaide)
Round 17:Sam Butler (West Coast Eagles)
Round 18:Beau Waters (West Coast Eagles)
Round 19:Daniel Cross (Western Bulldogs)
Round 20:Brent Stanton (Essendon)
Round 21:Adam Cooney (Western Bulldogs)
Round 22:Brent Hartigan (Richmond)

[GWW]

You haven't bolded any 07 nominations? You dont rate any of them?

[sydney-dog]

Dutchy

Just my view but I think your being a bit harsh on the following players for not highlighting in bold

Mark Seaby
Troy Selwood
David Mundy
Jordon Lewis
Colin Sylvia
Justin Sherman
Laycock
Birchall

[Dutchy]

You haven't bolded any 07 nominations? You dont rate any of them?

Ahhh GWW, how you going....you might enjoy my Recruit thread in the SANFL room

thought it was a bit harsh to rate the 07 class just yet

[Dutchy]

Dutchy

Just my view but I think your being a bit harsh on the following players for not highlighting in bold

Mark Seaby
Troy Selwood
David Mundy
Jordon Lewis
Colin Sylvia
Justin Sherman
Laycock
Birchall

agree with the top 6, I only did it quickly, not convinced on Laycock yet though....2004 was a great year though

[GWW]

You haven't bolded any 07 nominations? You dont rate any of them?

Ahhh GWW, how you going....you might enjoy my Recruit thread in the SANFL room

thought it was a bit harsh to rate the 07 class just yet

Hehe i knew who you were referring to. Next year the club will recruit a forward without all those bad Kangaroos habits and who can kick straight.

We'll get our moneys worth with our new CHF recruit (whoever that may be :p) next year

[NFC]

Players who shouldn’t be bolded:

Paul Bevan- In & out of the Swans team
Brent Staker- Struggling to get a game up forward for the Eagles; doesn’t say much.
Kane Tenace- Burns the ball far too often and will probably be traded at years end.
Michael Firrito- Hardly anything out of the ordinary.
Jared Rivers- One year wonder.
Mark LeCras- Average small forward.

[Hondo]

Looking at some of those guys, you'd have to say some Crows players are a bit stiff to miss for whatever reason they did. In Brett Rutten's case I'll take the All-Australian gig over a rising star nom

Analysing the rising stars 2004-2007 below. 1st column is number of nominated players, second is the average number of games to date played by those players. I'm not sure how good a guide it is for anything really - other than listing which young guys happened to have a great game in a given week.

No plyrs Av Games
Brisbane 10 17
Melbourrne 9 33
West Coast 8 35
Collingwd 6 29
Carlton 6 26
Geelong 6 30
Port Adel 6 25
Richmond 6 31
Hawthorn 5 29
Bulldogs 5 46
Essendon 4 43
Kangaroos 4 16
Adelaide 1 70
Sydney 1 48
St Kilda 1 17
Fremntle 1 42

[Dutchy]

Players who shouldn’t be bolded:

Paul Bevan- In & out of the Swans team
Brent Staker- Struggling to get a game up forward for the Eagles; doesn’t say much.
Kane Tenace- Burns the ball far too often and will probably be traded at years end.
Michael Firrito- Hardly anything out of the ordinary.
Jared Rivers- One year wonder.
Mark LeCras- Average small forward.

you have no idea some of the time, seriously -

Bevan - Played the last 8 games straight for the Swans (48 in total) averaging over 11 possies per game, hardly "in & out"

Staker - Played 12 games this season avergaing 15 disposal per game, 69 in total for 46 goals - says plenty

Tenace - Played 9 games this year including 8 of the last 9 averaging 17 disp per game (2 games of 27 & 28 possies) - traded?

Firrito - If not already this is where you completely lose it, being touted as an All Australian this year, not even going to go into the stats, anyone who follows AFL knows how good he has been this year

Rivers - Been unlucky with injury this year but played 22 games last year at CHB averaging 13 possies and 6 marks finishing 8th in the B & F, one year wonder?

LeCras - Played 9 games this year including the last 6 averaging 2 goals per game, for a small forward whos played 15 games what more can you ask for?

you idiot...

[JK]

I would have included Clinto Young in the group also, otherwise with Syd's amendments, I reckon you're on the money.

You might aswell whack Tom Hawkins name in bold right now too, this boy is going to be awesome to watch for many years to come.

[rod_rooster]

From a Hawthorn point of view Clinton Young, Grant Birchall and Jordan Lewis have all been very good this year and should be bolded IMHO.

[Dutchy]

as I said I did it farily quickly an bow to those who follow their teams closer than I.

Interesting looking at it -

2004 - very strong year
2005 - not as strong on quantity but high on quality
2006 - be better off judging these guys in 12 months time but possibly not as strong as the previous 2 years

[Rik E Boy]

Bit harsh on NFC there Dutchy. Possessions don't mean squat in today's football. Hard to get excited about 11,13, and 15 possies a game. As for Tenace's 17, many of those aren't that effective. NFC has a point about Tenace and how he burns the ball, he has been most fortunate to given the opportunities that he has been provided with this year IMO.

Firrito has been good this year, you're right on that one. Man, is he strong!

regards,

REB

[Dutchy]

fair call but he has had 2 games of 27 & 28 possies, you cant get them unless you can play a bit....we also have to remember all these players are still in the infancy of their careers, Hird, Harvey etc would have done similar numbers in their first 50 games

also why doesnt anyone call him "Blackjack"?

[Rik E Boy]

fair call but he has had 2 games of 27 & 28 possies, you cant get them unless you can play a bit....we also have to remember all these players are still in the infancy of their careers, Hird, Harvey etc would have done similar numbers in their first 50 games

also why doesnt anyone call him "Blackjack"?

Cos we all call him Kane Can't hit a ******* target LOL.

regards,

REB

[Aerie]

I would have included Clinto Young in the group also, otherwise with Syd's amendments, I reckon you're on the money.

Yep, I like this guy. Carries the ball, long left foot kick. Similar to Fiora, but not as flaky.

[Rik E Boy]

I would have included Clinto Young in the group also, otherwise with Syd's amendments, I reckon you're on the money.

Yep, I like this guy. Carries the ball, long left foot kick. Similar to Fiora, but not as flaky.

Similar to Fiora, except Young is a bloke.

regards,

REB

[Blue Boy]

Gee wiz Dutch a bit harsh on Jesse Smith !!!

Even I rate him as a player

[Blue Boy]

I would have included Clinto Young in the group also, otherwise with Syd's amendments, I reckon you're on the money.

Yep, I like this guy. Carries the ball, long left foot kick. Similar to Fiora, but not as flaky.

Similar to Fiora, except Young is a bloke.

regards,

REB

Quality REB

[Dutchy]

Gee wiz Dutch a bit harsh on Jesse Smith !!!

Even I rate him as a player

I didnt rate the class of 2007 as its too early, agree Smith is a very very good player and 3rd favourite for the Rising Star, just needs to get a smaller head from all reports