Soooooo, how's this weather?

[Roxy the Rat Girl]

most research to do with environment is mostly false made up crap from the greens.

yet another kernel of wisdom

[CENTURION]

If there is one thing I have realised I do hate as I get old(er), it's humidity. I suggest Mr or Mrs Humidity that you rack back off to the NSW and QLD states where you belong. Goodbye (please!)

yep, she's stickier than a nun's nasty, yesterday afternoon reminded me of the time I was in Penang......bewdiful.

[Ian]

The heat and humidity hasn't bothered me any where near as much this summer as it has for as long as I can remember, the only thing I can put it down to is that I'm now the fittest and lightest I've been for 20 years

[fish]

Prove to me that this is not just a 1 in a 1 million year event period , where the earth warms , prove to me that this is not just a once in a 35 million year event, where the earth warms more than normal. Prove to me that this is not a once ina 1 billion year event, prove to me this this is not just a once in 3000 year event

Bully I'm interested in these cycles can you please provide some more details about them, such as what causes them, and their relative impact compared to other climate forcings?

Fish - this is not an attack on you or an angry post dont take it that way - i have never said this IS a 10000000 year event. I am saying , prove to me it is not a 100000000 year event. My point is you and no one on this planet can prove to me it is or isnt a 100000000 year event. Just looking at rocks in the ground, or drilling to the centre of the earth, does not prove that this did or did not happen 10000000000 years ago. That is my point. i dont have graphs to prove it is a 1000000 year event, proper confirmed 100% someone took records of each day temp or month temp 10000000 years ago, or it isnt, and neither does anyone else.....

Jeepers Bully now you're talking about 10million and 100million year climate cycles to add to four cycles you suggested in your earlier post!

Do you have any scientific basis - either theory or evidence - that these particular cycles are forcing climate either now or in the past?

[Bully]

fish, that is what i have been saying or trying to say since day one

I Do Not Have The Evidence From 1000000000000 years ago, 4billion trillion million years ago, No One Does - the point i have been trying to make, and have cleary stated this.if you can prove to me that however long ago, the earth has never warmed more than normal, then i will agree -

Ok lets compair the climate back 100000000 years ago till now. Yes, the earth has never warmed this much before, so it is humans causing this. (this can not be confirmed 100%, as humans have not been around that long

Ok, it seems from 100000000 years ago, until 10/3/13, the earth goes through a period of warming more than normal for about 100 years, then it reduces,say every 20000 years it does this. So no its not humans causing this. (this can also not be confirmed 100%

[Ian]

So lets do nothing then, don't worry about pumping pollutants into the air, destroying the rain forests etc etc

We can prove that the pollutants are bad for us, that destroying rain forests is like taking away our oxygen supply etc, but that's ok, we can't convince Bully it's different to 100 000 000 years ago so we'll do stuff all!!

[Bully]

So lets do nothing then, don't worry about pumping pollutants into the air, destroying the rain forests etc etc

We can prove that the pollutants are bad for us, that destroying rain forests is like taking away our oxygen supply etc, but that's ok, we can't convince Bully it's different to 100 000 000 years ago so we'll do stuff all!!

Ian you are a moderator and yeah the rules are no trolling , but yeah..........

Get this straight , I have never said we should do nothing,or not do anything ever

I will not repeat myself - show me evidence of the earths climate when the dinosaurs roamed the earth or before that as an example , I can not do that, and neither can you . Show me that the earth is or is not going through a period of not or is warming.

I don't understand what part of that you don't get. It is simple in black and white.

I have never ever said " let's do nothing" EVER
I have said What IF we do nothing and YES it is us causing this, then we are in trouble.
I have never said we are not causing this.All i am doing is brigning up a side of the story to this warming of the planet, that MAYBE it is not us doing it. I have never said it is not humans causing this, but the people who believe in the humans are causing this warming seem to not like that. Its a legit response to the facts or non facts, or am i incorrect??
I dont have the evidence to back my theory up, that is what i am saying here, and neither do you or anyone else have the evidence that the earth is not going through a period of natural warming every 10000000 years or how ever long it is........

[therisingblues]

Get this straight , I have never said we should do nothing,or not do anything ever

I will not repeat myself - show me evidence of the earths climate when the dinosaurs roamed the earth or before that as an example , I can not do that, and neither can you . Show me that the earth is or is not going through a period of not or is warming.

I don't understand what part of that you don't get. It is simple in black and white.

I have never ever said " let's do nothing" EVER
I have said What IF we do nothing and YES it is us causing this, then we are in trouble.
I have never said we are not causing this.All i am doing is brigning up a side of the story to this warming of the planet, that MAYBE it is not us doing it. I have never said it is not humans causing this, but the people who believe in the humans are causing this warming seem to not like that. Its a legit response to the facts or non facts, or am i incorrect??
I dont have the evidence to back my theory up, that is what i am saying here, and neither do you or anyone else have the evidence that the earth is not going through a period of natural warming every 10000000 years or how ever long it is........

Yes, you have never said "Let's do nothing." in so many words. But your hang up on this supposed lack of evidence would lead people to believe that's your opinion.
By the way, you never responded: the evidence is there, you just don't understand it.

[Bully]

Get this straight , I have never said we should do nothing,or not do anything ever

I will not repeat myself - show me evidence of the earths climate when the dinosaurs roamed the earth or before that as an example , I can not do that, and neither can you . Show me that the earth is or is not going through a period of not or is warming.

I don't understand what part of that you don't get. It is simple in black and white.

I have never ever said " let's do nothing" EVER
I have said What IF we do nothing and YES it is us causing this, then we are in trouble.
I have never said we are not causing this.All i am doing is brigning up a side of the story to this warming of the planet, that MAYBE it is not us doing it. I have never said it is not humans causing this, but the people who believe in the humans are causing this warming seem to not like that. Its a legit response to the facts or non facts, or am i incorrect??
I dont have the evidence to back my theory up, that is what i am saying here, and neither do you or anyone else have the evidence that the earth is not going through a period of natural warming every 10000000 years or how ever long it is........

Yes, you have never said "Let's do nothing." in so many words. But your hang up on this supposed lack of evidence would lead people to believe that's your opinion.
By the way, you never responded: the evidence is there, you just don't understand it.

Ok, if the evidence is there from 100000000 years ago. Can you show me the weather on this day 100000000 years ago then please??

It will be very interesting to see your response.

[Sky Pilot]

Hang on...didn't GOD design and make the planet just a couple of thousand years ago?

[therisingblues]

Get this straight , I have never said we should do nothing,or not do anything ever

I will not repeat myself - show me evidence of the earths climate when the dinosaurs roamed the earth or before that as an example , I can not do that, and neither can you . Show me that the earth is or is not going through a period of not or is warming.

I don't understand what part of that you don't get. It is simple in black and white.

I have never ever said " let's do nothing" EVER
I have said What IF we do nothing and YES it is us causing this, then we are in trouble.
I have never said we are not causing this.All i am doing is brigning up a side of the story to this warming of the planet, that MAYBE it is not us doing it. I have never said it is not humans causing this, but the people who believe in the humans are causing this warming seem to not like that. Its a legit response to the facts or non facts, or am i incorrect??
I dont have the evidence to back my theory up, that is what i am saying here, and neither do you or anyone else have the evidence that the earth is not going through a period of natural warming every 10000000 years or how ever long it is........

Yes, you have never said "Let's do nothing." in so many words. But your hang up on this supposed lack of evidence would lead people to believe that's your opinion.
By the way, you never responded: the evidence is there, you just don't understand it.

Ok, if the evidence is there from 100000000 years ago. Can you show me the weather on this day 100000000 years ago then please??

It will be very interesting to see your response.

We don't need to know the exact weather from this day however many millions of years ago to understand the CO2 levels in the atmosphere at that time. Science has discovered evidence of several periods of warming and cooling and a link between them and CO2 levels. They also understand that CO2 levels are now rising rapidly and we are the cause of that. The weather patterns we are experiencing recently were predicted years ago by scientists based on increases in CO2. If they can predict a period of warming and then the planet warms you should be able to trust their methodology.

[Bully]

i give up honestly. Dont wish to be banned for trolling.

We should only look at records of since when humans have been taking records..............rrrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhttttttttttt. So we will just forget about how life began huh?

[Bully]

Hang on...didn't GOD design and make the planet just a couple of thousand years ago?

It really seems that way ....

[Ian]

So lets do nothing then, don't worry about pumping pollutants into the air, destroying the rain forests etc etc

We can prove that the pollutants are bad for us, that destroying rain forests is like taking away our oxygen supply etc, but that's ok, we can't convince Bully it's different to 100 000 000 years ago so we'll do stuff all!!

Ian you are a moderator and yeah the rules are no trolling , but yeah..........

you call that trolling.........................

[Squids]

This weather is carp. I need some rain and wind to stir up my fishing spots.

[Ian]

This weather is carp. I need some rain and wind to stir up my fishing spots.

just need some rain full stop, this dry spell has gone on way too long

[Bully]

have been told that the weather in SA is warm oveer the past few days, it seem very humid here in QLD also for this time of the year. Just hope the cyclone stays away, models have said it will turn early next week and head back for the coast.

[therisingblues]

#-o

i give up honestly. Dont wish to be banned for trolling.

We should only look at records of since when humans have been taking records..............rrrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhttttttttttt. So we will just forget about how life began huh?

My post is the one above this Bully, so it would appear that you're responding to me. Trouble is, I can't find anything in your post that matches mine.
What's this obsession with only looking at records created since humans have been on the planet? Who are you arguing against on that? Why are you hitting your head?
What part of my post were you responding to?
What I have said twice now is that the science is there, you just can't understand it. You've chosen to ignore that in favor of imaginary things that people haven't said.
So, do you understand the science or don't you?

[The Sleeping Giant]

Was talking about this last night, and the suggestion was made that us in Darwin are very happy with our weather, so we would like to not have to pay the carbon tax.

[Bully]

#-o

i give up honestly. Dont wish to be banned for trolling.

We should only look at records of since when humans have been taking records..............rrrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhttttttttttt. So we will just forget about how life began huh?

My post is the one above this Bully, so it would appear that you're responding to me. Trouble is, I can't find anything in your post that matches mine.
What's this obsession with only looking at records created since humans have been on the planet? Who are you arguing against on that? Why are you hitting your head?
What part of my post were you responding to?
What I have said twice now is that the science is there, you just can't understand it. You've chosen to ignore that in favor of imaginary things that people haven't said.
So, do you understand the science or don't you?

No, i dont understand it, hence the reason i keep asking you to show me graphs from both when humans didnt walk the planet like before the dinosaurs,and the weather to show it back then,which you cant and no one can,yet you can only show me graphs and information of when 100% confirmed that scientists have taken correct 100% confirmed records whilst humans have walked the planet..I dont understand it, hence the reason i keep asking for it.........I dont understand the science of it no. I have clearly stated this more then 30 times now.


I am also not saying you are wrong with what you are telling me, but i want to see the weather 100% i.e. Scientist Long John Silver was there for that period and recorded it back then, to compair it till now. This, odviously can not be done. hence the reason i am saying, we just dont know if the earth is going through a natural phase of warming more than normal, or it is not, and it is humans causing it.

This is i believe, and so do others, so its not just me including some of the most experienced scienetists have said "it maybe the earth just going through a natuarl warming"

So, do you understand that??