Interesting...

[Wedgie]

Wedgie you are probably right in telling us off for being cheeky but why is punky having ago at the Eagles club ,when by the looks of it North Adelaide have a fair few well payed new recruits as do Port Adelaide .If the SANFL are serious about Salary cap breaches perhaps they should impose really heavy fines and say take away premiership points from offending team like ok your over the cap by a large amount you finish LAST wipe out your team for the year.
That maybe a bit drastic but wouldnt it stop salary breaches !!

I know an easier and cheaper way to stop salary cap breaches.

I won't go into the many facts why your comment is not one I agree with as I've discussed it on other threads on this site but lets just say its not feasible and there's no reason why we have to copy the AFL and become an aritificial league like them.

[Mickyj]

No Salary cap you mean Wedgie ?
Wouldnt we hear the Victorians moan how we are raping the VFA etc buying all the good players lol I do like that Idea.

[redandblack]

Thanks, Wedgie, I genuinely accept your comments.

I think, on reflection, you might understand the response if you read punkie's original post, where he accused Eagles supporters of being hypocrites, holier-than-thou and blame-shifters. Some readers might even suspect that Punkie was trolling a bit, heaven forbid. I don't believe that, of course.

On the debate, I would think the Eagles would be strictly within the salary cap rules.

[Aerie]

Eags also aren't paying Toia and Merriman. Two big name recruits who they didn't replace last year.

[Wedgie]

On the debate, I would think the Eagles would be strictly within the salary cap rules.

I would think that too but maybe Punky's heard the same thing I've heard and thought it was worth of discussion.
Given that its all conjecture what everyone thinks they know about who's getting paid by which club I would agree with any accusation of hypocriticy on this matter.

And lets face it, considering where the Eagles have been in recent years its only common sense they too come under scrutiny, you've got to remember they had 6 players in the state squad and won the same amount of games at Central in 2005.

[firstblood]

anyone out there tell me how much the players get
in the reserves, and are their payments also to be
included in the salary cap.

[Wedgie]

anyone out there tell me how much the players get
in the reserves, and are their payments also to be
included in the salary cap.

Scroll down and check out the topic entitled "Official Salary Cap Info (how it works and what is included)"
http://www.sanflfooty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=921

Its all in there, and no reserves games aren't included.

[am Bays]

Whilst I accept where you are coming from Wedgie, do you honestly expect supporters to not troll, criticise, taunt others when their club being attacked, perceive that their club is being attacked for whatever reason or others start skiting whitout justification?

Shite, this has been happening since Jesus first waved a flogger, for Jeruselem.

Those that support the same club as the individual making the comments will naturally defend their own, where as the other supporters will jump on them.

It is the nature of all footy supporters to defend their club and taunt others. Reason and "supporting a footy club" are oxymorons.

I'm sure that there are many members of this site who think certain supporters of some footy clubs are just morons!!!!

[Wedgie]

Whilst I accept where you are coming from Wedgie, do you honestly expect supporters to not troll, criticise, taunt others when their club being attacked, perceive that their club is being attacked for whatever reason or others start skiting whitout justification?

No I don't expect it not to happen but I am keen to keep it to a minimum and not degenerate completely like some online sites do. I want this site to be seen as an asset for SANFL fans, not a blight.
I have no problem with criticism and some fun but I'd prefer for it to be at least witty and on a level with the age of the posters involved.
I will not allow multiple names on here, I think that was a good start.
I'm also not going to delete posts like the one's made on here, I will make requests of them but if they choose to ignore me or not is up to them.
I will however delete posts that go over the top and are obvious attempts to only troll or disrupt this site with childishness. I would also ban continuous abuse of this.
I wouldn't even contemplate warning anyone for posts made on this topic so far.

[ca]

I think RAB summed it up well with his comments.

There is no way the Eagles would be over the salary cap. They have done a good job over the years of producing their own players or recruiting relatively unknowns and developing them in to top players. Sturt have been good at this over the years as well.

[ca]

Whilst I accept where you are coming from Wedgie, do you honestly expect supporters to not troll, criticise, taunt others when their club being attacked, perceive that their club is being attacked for whatever reason or others start skiting whitout justification?

No I don't expect it not to happen but I am keen to keep it to a minimum and not degenerate completely like some online sites do. I want this site to be seen as an asset for SANFL fans, not a blight.
I have no problem with criticism and some fun but I'd prefer for it to be at least witty and on a level with the age of the posters involved.
I will not allow multiple names on here, I think that was a good start.
I'm also not going to delete posts like the one's made on here, I will make requests of them but if they choose to ignore me or not is up to them.
I will however delete posts that go over the top and are obvious attempts to only troll or disrupt this site with childishness. I would also ban continuous abuse of this.
I wouldn't even contemplate warning anyone for posts made on this topic so far.

So you haven't registered Captain Cum? Thats dissapointing, I was hoping he and a few of those other multiple usernames used by Noth people to cause trouble on footysa would make a comeback this season. Seriously though, hopefully it can stay like this.

[Mickyj]

I think RAB summed it up well with his comments.

There is no way the Eagles would be over the salary cap. They have done a good job over the years of producing their own players or recruiting relatively unknowns and developing them in to top players. Sturt have been good at this over the years as well.

Well said CA I agree .

[Wedgie]

So you haven't registered Captain Cum? Thats dissapointing, I was hoping he and a few of those other multiple usernames used by Noth people to cause trouble on footysa would make a comeback this season. Seriously though, hopefully it can stay like this.

Nah, I had a quick look through the memberslist and couldn't find a Captain Cum.
I wasn't aware North supporters were the only one's causing trouble on footysa ca. Iwould have thought from my observations there were ratbags from all clubs.
I could have sworn it was a Norwood supporter spreading false rumours about Steven Koops but there ya go, I must have been mistkaen.
Crikey, who would have thought people like Golden Dynasty, Dogman, Tee, etc were all North supporters, you've certainly opened up my eyes on that one ca!
The obsession continues.....

In all seriousness (Im assuming your North people comment was in jest unless its a different footysa to the one I know) I too hope this site can stay like this and I (and the mods) plan to work hard to ensure it does.

[ca]

Yeah fair enough there were a few from other clubs, just some regular offenders.

[sus]

Its pretty obvious that Punky was just stirring it up. No-one could reasonably believe the argument he put forward. Could they??

[ca]

False rumours, hmmm. There a lot I'd like to say on that but won't take the bait, this time.

[Wedgie]

Its pretty obvious that Punky was just stirring it up. No-one could reasonably believe the argument he put forward. Could they??

I think his points "betwen the lines" that the Eagles should be under as much scrutiny as any other club and that their supporters should not throw stones is a valid one but yes I do agree to use purely quantity of players lossed and gain as a backup to those points is stretching the facts to say the least. I think if you perhaps look at the bigger picture of what his post insinuates and take emotions out of the equation its quite valid.
At the very least he's started a conversation that is very popular, the more of those the better I say!

[topsywaldron]

Wedgie,

By your reasoning I could start a thread that says "South should be thrown out of the competition and their coach jailed for crimes against humanity" and people would be expected to respond intelligently. If people put up specious or spurious arguments they should be treated with the respect they deserve.

And last time I checked, the SANFL is a COMPETTION. This enforced "love in" between all nine clubs supporters is a little nauseating.

[Wedgie]

Wedgie,

By your reasoning I could start a thread that says "South should be thrown out of the competition and their coach jailed for crimes against humanity" and people would be expected to respond intelligently. If people put up specious or spurious arguments they should be treated with the respect they deserve.

If you had some facts to back that up then agreed, people should not just revert to personal insults and I think it would be more appropriate if they explained why your facts were incorrect. I'm not going to stop most of the personal insults but will point out that I think its a childish way to go about disagreeing with things. I also might have legal issues with someone accusing someone of crimes against humanity although they're quite within their rights to alleged something they've heard.

And last time I checked, the SANFL is a COMPETTION. This enforced "love in" between all nine clubs supporters is a little nauseating.

Look mate, no offence but if some of your posts in the past (here and on footysa) are something to go on you'd be happy with a site where a conversation would go like this:

Supporter A: Norwood Suck
Supporter B: You're a dickhead, your team sucks more.
Supporter C: You're a bigger dickhead and your team sucks more.
Supporter A: Takes one to know one

If you find topics about footy nauseating and would prefer a kiddie fest then fair enough mate, you're entitled to that. Just not my cup of tea and not the way I want to see this site progressing. I think the popularity of this site (which has exceeded my expectation) backs up the fact we must be on the right track. People still disagree and have a go at each other here more than another forum you frequent but you don't have a problem with that site for some reason. There's no enforced love in but I am trying to limit the schoolyard behaviour and promote intelligent discussions on footy, I don't think that's asking too much.

[smithy]

Yeah fair enough there were a few from other clubs, just some regular offenders.

I've been trying to stay under .05 when behind the keyboard lately.