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Postby Coorong » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:37 pm

Great stuff Phil, good work to all concerned. I particulaarly like the members only section for that extra bit of info. Now if a couple of "others" were to take note of yours and Norths one hell of improvement accross the boards I reakon.
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:39 pm

North too are going to have a members only section, Sturt have had one in the past, I understand about adding value to memberships but I don't agree with this idea. We should be getting as much info out there as possible to everyone, we cant afford to be picky and its not as though a member isn't going to join up because he doesn't get exclusive news on the website. Just my opinion though.
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Postby TroyGFC » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:16 am

Members only section is a shite idea. If clubs want new members they gotta share information and keep them upto date.
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Postby zipzap » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:44 am

Sturt's member's section is pretty silly. There were a few player profiles that were a season or two old. Dead links. The login to this section now doesn't work any more.

A shame because the club has put a huge effort into its membership package this year - it's like getting a Double Blues showbag! Without the crap stuff ;)
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Postby JK » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:40 am

Wedgie wrote:North too are going to have a members only section, Sturt have had one in the past, I understand about adding value to memberships but I don't agree with this idea. We should be getting as much info out there as possible to everyone, we cant afford to be picky and its not as though a member isn't going to join up because he doesn't get exclusive news on the website. Just my opinion though.


We've had this discussion several times at the club ... I'm actually in favour of the members only section lol, but appear to be the only one ... Either way it's no biggy I don't think.
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Postby JK » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:45 am

Good stuff Phil,

Quick question for you ... As I understand it, most clubs rely upon volunteers to maintain their website to fairly large degree's (in some cases %100 of it is done by volunteers) ... Do you think the day will come whereby clubs introduce a fulltime IT person, or perhaps an additional marketing staff member (with adequate IT ability) capable of giving a club website the attention (I believe) it requires?
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Postby redandblack » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:08 pm

I'm a bit amused that this topic was started by a West supporter.

The West website was a joke until less than 12 months ago. Now it is regularly updated and communication with members is first class.

As Phil H confirms, player lists aren't finalised until next week, but some people seem to always need to have something to complain about.
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Postby Coorong » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:36 pm

redandblack wrote:I'm a bit amused that this topic was started by a West supporter.

The West website was a joke until less than 12 months ago. Now it is regularly updated and communication with members is first class.

As Phil H confirms, player lists aren't finalised until next week, but some people seem to always need to have something to complain about.


Would that be amused or bemused R&B ? in any event, yes the WAFC web site on appearance has taken on a whole new look. From a communication point of view how does one compare something with nothing?

But in my opinion (and I could almost write for you, your response) no where near satisfactory, similar to many other sites.

BUT, please understand this is not a personal sledge on you, or MY club. But it is my voice and attitude stateing that web sites in the main need be a lot more active and up to date.

And I for one support the members only area where a bit more detail is available.
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Postby dash61 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:55 pm

Started from a west supporter???? well it had to have started from a supporter of one of the nine teams, IT STARTED FROM ME a west supporter and a member: I pointed out that 3 teams were upto date and 6 teams were not. Just so happens west is one of the six who are not upto date.

"So your point is !!!!!!!"????????

Can you ensure the viewing public of this forum that by the start of round 1 the web page will be upto date????

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To say the list isnt finalised is a very ordinary excuse dont you think???, we do not have this seasons programme on the web site, injuries are not listed and im sure players can get injured before the season proper, In the past and current we have NEVER had individual photo's linked to each player as do other clubs etc etc

I am local and get info, but my point re the west site and the other 5 is that no country supporter, elderly, interstate, overseas, hospital bound, very busy individual etc etc can not find out about their team, who is who etc. All I say is EACH club should ensure every info about their product is available to the average PUNTER(supporter).

This is not a go at our club West but ALL clubs that can not provide this information to the general public.

Question to Redandblack???
What is the standard that a club should supply information to the general public??????

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Postby JK » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:07 pm

One other thing to bare in mind Dash, is that any info placed on the website isn't necessarily going to be read by Westies fans only ... Some things like nature of injury should remain inhouse IMHO.
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Postby redandblack » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:15 pm

Fair enough, Coorong and dash. I can't ensure that the site will be up to date by Round 1 because I have no say or control over the site whatsoever, apart from writing the player profiles.

I've been happy with the improvements and with what is likely to be coming, so the few delays with some things at a time of enormous change in the Club is something I'm happy to wear.
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Postby dash61 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:36 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:One other thing to bare in mind Dash, is that any info placed on the website isn't necessarily going to be read by Westies fans only ... Some things like nature of injury should remain inhouse IMHO.


Taken from north adelaides site15/03/2007

Josh Starke (Forearm): 9 Weeks
Tim Delvins (Ankle): 7 - 9 Weeks
Matt Down (Back): 7 weeks
Brett White (Groin): 3 Weeks
Kingsley Walker (Thigh): 2 Weeks
Joel Campbell (Thigh): 1 Week
Zac Millar (Sprained Ankle): 1 Week
Tate Kaesler (Work): 1 Week

AFC - Nick Gill (Hamstring): 8 Weeks

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Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:21 pm

you seem obsessed with North Dash61....
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Postby dash61 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:08 pm

Maybe a closet Rooster supporter

Unlike some supporters not like yourself :lol: , i'll give praise where it is deserved
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Postby Spiritof64 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:43 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Good stuff Phil,

Quick question for you ... As I understand it, most clubs rely upon volunteers to maintain their website to fairly large degree's (in some cases %100 of it is done by volunteers) ... Do you think the day will come whereby clubs introduce a fulltime IT person, or perhaps an additional marketing staff member (with adequate IT ability) capable of giving a club website the attention (I believe) it requires?


The SAFC website was the first official club site. Yes it was started and run by a volunteer for 3 years until work committments forced the person (me) to relinquish the role to an outside web development company. The cost of which I believe was several K a year for a couple of years.

Scoop then took over the reins as a volunteer (although how he fits in the time with all the other stuff he does around the place I dunno). In my oppinion he's doing a bonza (how old are you?) job and probably as good or better than a full time IT person could.

The additional costs of having a dedicated IT officer could probably not be justified by most clubs and the time required for other staff to manage the website would also not be justifiable. The skills and time input by volunteers on all club sites is a boon that I am sure all clubs appreciate. And I think they all deserve a pat on the back.
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Postby Aerie » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:05 am

A good club website is a must. A good one will generate extra support/members, especially with the younger generation.

North's is the best IMO. I will often have a look at Barrie's Corner and always looked forward to Nick Gill's wacky sense of humour in his blog. I like Centrals website as well.

The Eagles website is getting updated. Needs to be. Can't complain about the communication during the season with the email service which is fantastic. In particular it is great to hear from the coach each week and be updated on the injuries.
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:35 am

Spiritof64 wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Good stuff Phil,

Quick question for you ... As I understand it, most clubs rely upon volunteers to maintain their website to fairly large degree's (in some cases %100 of it is done by volunteers) ... Do you think the day will come whereby clubs introduce a fulltime IT person, or perhaps an additional marketing staff member (with adequate IT ability) capable of giving a club website the attention (I believe) it requires?


The SAFC website was the first official club site. Yes it was started and run by a volunteer for 3 years until work committments forced the person (me) to relinquish the role to an outside web development company. The cost of which I believe was several K a year for a couple of years.

Scoop then took over the reins as a volunteer (although how he fits in the time with all the other stuff he does around the place I dunno). In my oppinion he's doing a bonza (how old are you?) job and probably as good or better than a full time IT person could.

The additional costs of having a dedicated IT officer could probably not be justified by most clubs and the time required for other staff to manage the website would also not be justifiable. The skills and time input by volunteers on all club sites is a boon that I am sure all clubs appreciate. And I think they all deserve a pat on the back.


Cheers for that Sof, all seems reasonable ... I know our club site is volunteer run also, but with volunteers having busy lives of their own I could see the need for someone within the club to take fulltime responsibility at some point in the future, purely to ensure it doesn't remain static and is utilised as a legitimate marketing tool.

Given our cashflow situation at the minute, I think we'll be relying on volunteers still for quite some time to come, but should the club develop an income generation equal to that of most other clubs, I'd hope they seriously consider adding the necessary internal resources (or skills to existing resources) to see the club look after it themself.
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Postby Wedgie » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:08 pm

New North site online today, this year's scoreboard is going to be a separate windo like the professional leagues use. Still some glitches to fix but leaves its predecessor behind which was already ahead of the rest of the pack.
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Postby ca » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:21 pm

Wedgie wrote:New North site online today, this year's scoreboard is going to be a separate windo like the professional leagues use. Still some glitches to fix but leaves its predecessor behind which was already ahead of the rest of the pack.


No doubt about that, it really shows the others clubs how it should be done.
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Postby Barto » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:22 pm

The majority are shit. They're wasting something could be a valuable resource. I pointed this out 10 years ago to the SFC. Waste of time.
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