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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:23 pm

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X Runna wrote:The shortlisting process had been done for the Cats by the other clubs and by the assistant coach merry-go-round.


Fair dinkum that is dead set rubbish. You're assuming here that all clubs have the same requirements for a coach for a start and that's a mighty big assumption. It might have the same job title but the requirements for each club would be completely different. Another assumption is that people 'aren't up to the job' just because they didn't get a gig. There are a lot more people trying to get the job than there are jobs available.

I reckon you're selling Scott short. At least give him the six games that Don Scott got ha ha. ;)

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So why is it when a postition is made available that the same names come up for every club?

Runna is right, the list of genuine candidates was on a platter in front of the Cats.

Mind you, now is not the time to be critical of any of the new ( Primus, Hird, C.Scott, McKenna ) coaches and their ability.


Runna is not right, other clubs did not 'shortlist the candidates for Geelong' how in the **** could they? As for 'presented' genuine candidates the sporting media of Melbourne are hardly an imaginative lot. As for Runna's comments about how fast the process happened I don't think Geelong could have gone on without a coach for too long...we've got a list to rebuild.

In answer to your other question Runna I'm not sure who else the Catters might have talked to because I couldn't be arsed doing the research. I'm not that worried about what Sando does but I have heard that he and Scott have worked well together in the past so perhaps they can again.

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:27 pm

He'll go ok. I'm just hoping he gives the young guys on the list a red hot opportunity next year and it looks as though he is going to do that, so that can only be a good thing. The quicker we start doing that, the quicker we can get back to being a major force again. We'll still be up there next year, but we definitely need the younger quicker legs to be given as much an opportunity as they can get, as our lack of pace pace was our achilles heel this year.
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:31 pm

Bum Crack wrote:He'll go ok. I'm just hoping he gives the young guys on the list a red hot opportunity next year and it looks as though he is going to do that, so that can only be a good thing. The quicker we start doing that, the quicker we can get back to being a major force again. We'll still be up there next year, but we definitely need the younger quicker legs to be given as much an opportunity as they can get, as our lack of pace pace was our achilles heel this year.


The problem was bloody work rate. Geelong have never been a fast side, kick the footballer and Usain Bolt can't keep up with it. If your guys won't work hard to open options THEN pace becomes an issue because you can't free up space for the contest. St Kilda and Collingwood worked harder than us, shut down space and we weren't quick enough to get away.

Did Collingwood and particularly St Kilda get that must faster in 2010? Not by as much as our hunger and workrate drained away.

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:35 pm

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Bum Crack wrote:He'll go ok. I'm just hoping he gives the young guys on the list a red hot opportunity next year and it looks as though he is going to do that, so that can only be a good thing. The quicker we start doing that, the quicker we can get back to being a major force again. We'll still be up there next year, but we definitely need the younger quicker legs to be given as much an opportunity as they can get, as our lack of pace pace was our achilles heel this year.


The problem was bloody work rate. Geelong have never been a fast side, kick the footballer and Usain Bolt can't keep up with it. If your guys won't work hard to open options THEN pace becomes an issue because you can't free up space for the contest. St Kilda and Collingwood worked harder than us, shut down space and we weren't quick enough to get away.

Did Collingwood and particularly St Kilda get that must faster in 2010? Not by as much as our hunger and workrate drained away.

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That answers my question. Also, they looked quite quick in the 2007 GF ;)
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:44 pm

Players and coaches walking out, fans fighting amongst themselves.... :roll:


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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:47 pm

Booney wrote:Players and coaches walking out, fans fighting amongst themselves.... :roll:


:lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:53 pm

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Booney wrote:Players and coaches walking out, fans fighting amongst themselves.... :roll:


:lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:
You're absolutely loving this aren't you.


Not as much as you think, but yeah, it isn't hurting too much. :lol:
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:00 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
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Bum Crack wrote:He'll go ok. I'm just hoping he gives the young guys on the list a red hot opportunity next year and it looks as though he is going to do that, so that can only be a good thing. The quicker we start doing that, the quicker we can get back to being a major force again. We'll still be up there next year, but we definitely need the younger quicker legs to be given as much an opportunity as they can get, as our lack of pace pace was our achilles heel this year.


The problem was bloody work rate. Geelong have never been a fast side, kick the footballer and Usain Bolt can't keep up with it. If your guys won't work hard to open options THEN pace becomes an issue because you can't free up space for the contest. St Kilda and Collingwood worked harder than us, shut down space and we weren't quick enough to get away.

Did Collingwood and particularly St Kilda get that must faster in 2010? Not by as much as our hunger and workrate drained away.

regards,

REB

That answers my question. Also, they looked quite quick in the 2007 GF ;)


Tell me one footballer who can out run a footy that has been kicked and then explain again how the bolded bit answers your question. Then again, we didn't kick the bloody thing either this year.

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:01 pm

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Not as much as you think, but yeah, it isn't hurting too much. :lol:


Agreed. :lol:

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:07 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:He'll go ok. I'm just hoping he gives the young guys on the list a red hot opportunity next year and it looks as though he is going to do that, so that can only be a good thing. The quicker we start doing that, the quicker we can get back to being a major force again. We'll still be up there next year, but we definitely need the younger quicker legs to be given as much an opportunity as they can get, as our lack of pace pace was our achilles heel this year.


The problem was bloody work rate. Geelong have never been a fast side, kick the footballer and Usain Bolt can't keep up with it. If your guys won't work hard to open options THEN pace becomes an issue because you can't free up space for the contest. St Kilda and Collingwood worked harder than us, shut down space and we weren't quick enough to get away.

Did Collingwood and particularly St Kilda get that must faster in 2010? Not by as much as our hunger and workrate drained away.

regards,

REB

That answers my question. Also, they looked quite quick in the 2007 GF ;)


Tell me one footballer who can out run a footy that has been kicked and then explain again how the bolded bit answers your question. Then again, we didn't kick the bloody thing either this year.

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If you don't have the leg speed to make the space, your opponent is going to be on your hammer applying the pressure and that showed this year (especially against Collingwood and St Kilda when it counted). We simply weren't quick enough. That's my opinion anyway. A lot of teams we got away with it, but the two teams who played off in the grand final, showed us up a bit and at the end of the day, if you want to win premierships, they are the teams we need to be beating. I thought I had quite a valid point.
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:41 pm

Watch the AFL program Cats v Roos in the first 3-4 weeks and prob on a Fri night
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby X Runna » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:43 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
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X Runna wrote:The shortlisting process had been done for the Cats by the other clubs and by the assistant coach merry-go-round.


Fair dinkum that is dead set rubbish. You're assuming here that all clubs have the same requirements for a coach for a start and that's a mighty big assumption. It might have the same job title but the requirements for each club would be completely different. Another assumption is that people 'aren't up to the job' just because they didn't get a gig. There are a lot more people trying to get the job than there are jobs available.

I reckon you're selling Scott short. At least give him the six games that Don Scott got ha ha. ;)

regards,

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So why is it when a postition is made available that the same names come up for every club?

Runna is right, the list of genuine candidates was on a platter in front of the Cats.

Mind you, now is not the time to be critical of any of the new ( Primus, Hird, C.Scott, McKenna ) coaches and their ability.


Runna is not right, other clubs did not 'shortlist the candidates for Geelong' how in the **** could they? As for 'presented' genuine candidates the sporting media of Melbourne are hardly an imaginative lot. As for Runna's comments about how fast the process happened I don't think Geelong could have gone on without a coach for too long...we've got a list to rebuild.

In answer to your other question Runna I'm not sure who else the Catters might have talked to because I couldn't be arsed doing the research. I'm not that worried about what Sando does but I have heard that he and Scott have worked well together in the past so perhaps they can again.

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Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott

All the hard work sorting through the chaff etc HAD BEEN DONE for Geelong before Bomber quit, and if you can't see that REB, you are blinded by your loyalty..
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:49 pm

X Runna wrote:Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott



Yeah, I'm sure Geelong did just that. :roll:

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:07 pm

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X Runna wrote:Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott



Yeah, I'm sure Geelong did just that. :roll:

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Chris Scott may well fit into
e) all of the above.

No one knows how he will turn out.

I'm always sceptical of clubs saying that this bloke is going to be a great coach, the players love him, etc, etc and we're sorry to see him go.

Reminds me of Robert Shaw's glowing references when he went to Adelaide....

Having said that, I reckon he will be good for the cats.
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby X Runna » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:59 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
X Runna wrote:Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott



Yeah, I'm sure Geelong did just that. :roll:

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Going by the lack of evidence to prove otherwise.........it wouldn't be too far off the mark.
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:09 pm

X Runna wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
X Runna wrote:Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott



Yeah, I'm sure Geelong did just that. :roll:

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Going by the lack of evidence to prove otherwise.........it wouldn't be too far off the mark.


And you've provided so much 'evidence' of your own. Miles off it mate.

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby X Runna » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:18 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
X Runna wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
X Runna wrote:Easy to answer..........all the applications (if there were any others, cause the bloke on here who is defending them the most "can't be arsed" doing the research, I seriously doubt there was much to do anyhow) on a table, sort them out in say 4 piles.
a) straight out crap
b) crap cos he couldn't get a gig anywhere else, even at Port
c) crap cos his current club couldn't care whether he stayed or went ("We wish him all the best etc".....crap again)
d) Chris Scott



Yeah, I'm sure Geelong did just that. :roll:

regards,

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Going by the lack of evidence to prove otherwise.........it wouldn't be too far off the mark.


And you've provided so much 'evidence' of your own. Miles off it mate.

regards,

REB


What evidence could I be expected to have if Geelong's own supporters don't have any..........?

Ring ring, ring ring......"Neil Balme". ........"hey big Fella, Cookie....... Bombers walked, WTF are we going to do now?"

"Leave it with me, Chris Scott didn't get a gig and he's the best available. Will give him the job, everybody else has interviewed the duds & they're all crap, tell him to shut his mouth for a week or so and then we'll say we went through "a thorough interview process that consisted of several exceptional candidates", that'll keep the plebs happy & let's face it...we're gunna slide for the next few years anyhow, so if he's a dud too - we'll ride it out till we've actually got time to interview people"

"Good man Balmey, I'll leave it in your hands but give it a week or so or you'll have guys like X Runna doubting we went through much of a process at all - he'll probably end in an argument with our mate REB. We can't get caught on this one or we'll look like a disorganised rabble"

"Orright Frank, I'll keep ya posted"
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:54 pm

So in other words, you've got nothing. Righty oh, carry on then... :lol: I never said I had evidence I am an outsider to the GFC just like you. All I have is an opinion the same as yourself. And my opinion remains Hinkley, Sanderson and Scott represent three very good candidates and that the selection process of other clubs had bugger all with what we were doing.

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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby X Runna » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:02 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:So in other words, you've got nothing. Righty oh, carry on then... :lol: I never said I had evidence I am an outsider to the GFC just like you. All I have is an opinion the same as yourself. And my opinion remains Hinkley, Sanderson and Scott represent three very good candidates and that the selection process of other clubs had bugger all with what we were doing.

Cheers.

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C'mon REB, I'm trying to keep it lighthearted.

You are dead right, I have nothing - but isn't that what I'm saying? I'm trying to find out what they did and with whom, but I keep coming up empty. All I want is a straight answer, but Geelong don't seem to be offering that information publicly and I wonder why?
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Re: Chris Scott new Cats coach

Postby CoverKing » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:46 pm

Ryan Gamble delisted today! Scotts choice??

And where will he endup? Surely he will get a gig somewhere else! Maybe port?
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