Geelong 2010 = Brisbane 2004

[Rik E Boy]

what is hawkins then....can hardly take a contested mark...hardly kicks goals...is a long way off being a decent afl footballer!!!!

Leave him up forward and he'll be fine. He's a long way off being a decent ruckman.

regards,

REB

[jointman]

Hawkins is a forward

he doesnt have to take contested marks, just bring it to ground for stokes, byrnes, varcoe, ablett, chappy to get the crumbing goals

ummmm...thats what the main forwards do...take contested marks!!!!!

[mighty_tiger_79]

ok REB, your take on the futures of these players

Gamble, Djerrkurra, Rooke (injured all year)?

[fester69]

Love us or hate us, you have to thank us for re-introducing, fast, attacking footy over the last 4 seasons.

Not the end but not the dominant team anymore.

[Rik E Boy]

Hawkins is a forward

he doesnt have to take contested marks, just bring it to ground for stokes, byrnes, varcoe, ablett, chappy to get the crumbing goals

ummmm...thats what the main forwards do...take contested marks!!!!!

Yeah that's part of what he needs to do, but as mt said, not all that is required of him. So do you think we should do, sack a 22 year old forward because he's no good in the ruck? Marking forwards don't grow on trees..after all, you blokes have got Schultz. Like I said plonk him up there next to Pods and send Moons on his way and he'll be fine.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

ok REB, your take on the futures of these players

Gamble, Djerrkurra, Rooke (injured all year)?

Gamble not sure - likes the spekkie a bit too much. Djekerra is seeking greener pastures and Rooke would have to be pretty close to the end. You can't go in crash and bash and expect to have a Craig Bradley like longevity in the game.

regards,

REB

[Hondo]

Love us or hate us, you have to thank us for re-introducing, fast, attacking footy over the last 4 seasons.

Sorry to pick on you here but if I read one more Geelong supporter writing something like this I think I will smash my laptop on my head.

What were Adelaide playing in 2006 when they belted Geelong by 92 points? Slow, defensive footy? Bomber Thompson has publicly said that belting was one of the catalysts to his re-jig of Geelong's game plan.

Geelong were a brilliant team and will still be a very good team. But sorry they weren't the first team to play attacking football and won't be the last. Despite their great 4 years there are still teams out there sticking to their own game plans rather than adopt this so-called "revolution".

[Booney]

Brisbane were pipped at the post for 4 in a row by a hungry and desperate Port Adelaide outfit.

Geelong did not make 4 GF's in a row, nor did they win 3 in a row. The similarities are few and far between.

Ling looked as slow as a wet week and his punch to Browns guts late in the game showed his frustration, out of character for Lingy.

Hawkins is a spud. Why keep picking him when he has no impact on the game, Jolly spot on with his comments about Hawkins being feeble in the ruck contests.

Podsiadly, I said it at about round 14, flat track bully. Will they keep him for another year or start to move on now? Throw in Lonergan and Hunt and there could be 6 or 7 blokes with question marks over their heads. Mackie must be wondering WTF?

I dont think I remember one loss offering up so many questions.

What nonsense. We were beaten by a side that has overtaken us. We have I believe three guys who are done and they are Mooney, Ottens and Milburn. Hawkins is not a spud, but neither is he a ruckman. That was a terrible call by the match committee. The poor bloke looked confused out there. Playing foward during your entire career and then attempting to take on a white hot Jolly was always going to be ugly. Pods isn't a flat track bully either. You could have had Gary Ablett Snr up forward last night and he wouldn't have gotten a kick either. Terrible delivery from the midfield as Collingwood's superior pressure and work rate meant that Pods was never allowed into the game.

Why would Mackie be wondering WTF? He has been terrible all year, a real down hill skier. Little wonder he was in the stands. Try watching Geelong instead of repeating Liegh Mathews here Booney! Last night was no mystery, this unit is done and we were beaten by the new pacesetter who should go on to win the premiership.

regards,

REB

Podsiadly has hardly touched it the big games thie year. See the St.Kilda and Colligwood games, clearly his best is not good enough to match with the best.Funny thing is, they ( the match comittee ) do think Hawkins is a ruckman, wouldn't have played him there last night if they didn't. Simple.

Ottens, Mooney and Milburn, yep, they are gone. Hunt and Lonergan I'm not so sure about and Ling looked to be one paced. Slow.

When you have been over taken and are no longer the best you need to figure out who can match it with the best. Plenty last night showed they no longer can.

[mighty_tiger_79]

the other thing is Collingwoods game plan and the pressure they applied was sensational

we are still stronger then the majority of teams in the comp

may just need to re-adjust the gameplan to tackle the teams that implement strong forward line press

[Felch]

Milburn's decline as a player is quite possibly the biggest thing to affect the Cats performance this finals series. Quality defenders have a tendency to lose it almost overnight as they get older (Ben Hart another example), and Milburn is a vital link in the Cats defence. REB made the call many weeks back that Mackie was not pulling his weight back there either, and Josh Hunt is very suspect as a tight defender. Wojinski has been good this year, but remember he has had trouble making the Cats best 22 in the past - maybe this says something about how well Geelong's back six have been going. Scarlett is still all class, and Taylor has just had a shocking couple of weeks. Lonergan is a capable player too, but one weak link in your backline can bring you undone.

[Felch]

the other thing is Collingwoods game plan and the pressure they applied was sensational

we are still stronger then the majority of teams in the comp

may just need to re-adjust the gameplan to tackle the teams that implement strong forward line press

This is an interesting comment. Thats been the great thing about Geelong - i reckon it didnt matter what so-called gameplan they did play, they were just so bloody good they were going to win anyway. Just like Brisbane, they wont be remembered for winning flags because of their gameplan. They will be remembered because they are a champion team.

[Dirko]

Otto, Mooney and Milburn most go for mine and we should invest in youth and do a Vossy top up.

regards,

REB

And that worked How many blokes did Vossy piss off during Trade week last year....

[Rik E Boy]

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Podsiadly has hardly touched it the big games thie year. See the St.Kilda and Colligwood games, clearly his best is not good enough to match with the best.Funny thing is, they ( the match comittee ) do think Hawkins is a ruckman, wouldn't have played him there last night if they didn't. Simple.

Ottens, Mooney and Milburn, yep, they are gone. Hunt and Lonergan I'm not so sure about and Ling looked to be one paced. Slow.

When you have been over taken and are no longer the best you need to figure out who can match it with the best. Plenty last night showed they no longer can.

And this makes Pods different from just about any other key forward in the league how? Shit delivery = no bag. I don't believe that Pods was the problem last night. On your comment the only Cats who should front up next year would be Gazza (gone) and Bartel. The match committee got it wrong for mine, Mooney goes and Hawkins goes up front. How can Hawkins be called a spud just because he has played half a season in the ruck? Mate that comment is Bay 13 stuff.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Otto, Mooney and Milburn most go for mine and we should invest in youth and do a Vossy top up.

regards,

REB

And that worked How many blokes did Vossy piss off during Trade week last year....

Oops! I meant not do a Vossy top up! He has stuffed the Lions big time. Typo on my part.

regards,

REB

[CK]

Last night, Ablett played a lot like a man determined to make sure he went out on the best personal performance possible. Hopefully Geelong get properly compensated for this, but I doubt it, somehow.

Was sad to watch such a shuddering halt to their campaign, as I thoroughly enjoy watching Geelong. How they manage this will be a big test for all involved as will the eventual handover of coaching duties by Bomber Thompson to whoever the successor will be - another huge decision faced by the club. Sanderson would seem the frontrunner, but it will be hotly contested.

[Bum Crack]

I have copped more shit than a septic tank truck since last night. Why?????? Because they are happy that the best team possibly ever has been knocked off their perch. U can all argue and disagree with me, but it's the truth. You can bring your stats out re flags etc, but i couldn't give a flying ****

[Bum Crack]

Last night, Ablett played a lot like a man determined to make sure he went out on the best personal performance possible. Hopefully Geelong get properly compensated for this, but I doubt it, somehow.

Was sad to watch such a shuddering halt to their campaign, as I thoroughly enjoy watching Geelong. How they manage this will be a big test for all involved as will the eventual handover of coaching duties by Bomber Thompson to whoever the successor will be - another huge decision faced by the club. Sanderson would seem the frontrunner, but it will be hotly contested.

He is staying at Geelong. He will be captain in 2012.

[Hondo]

He is staying at Geelong. He will be captain in 2012.

Neil Balme ruled out the captaincy the other day I thought

He was talking in response to Ablett coming out in the media and saying he wanted to be a captain as though he was pressuring the club to give it to him to keep him.

Balmey's response was that no-one would get the captaincy at Geelong that way. I read into his comments that the club weren't too impressed by the tactic.

[Dirko]

You can bring your stats out re flags etc, but i couldn't give a flying ****

Flags. That's all that counts. No use being the best team if you can't win 'em....

[Bum Crack]

You can bring your stats out re flags etc, but i couldn't give a flying ****

Flags. That's all that counts. No use being the best team if you can't win 'em....

refer to my above comment. I couldn't give a flying ****.