Sturt assessment

[southee]

Looking at Sturt.

I see them as a team of individuals - exactly like Norman said.

I think there is a few in that side that are there for the wrong reasons.

Just my assessment anyway.......

[am Bays]

Ahh, I didn't see too many.

Indeed, no obvious faults... except perhaps that the bloke on the scoreboard could lift his game a little...

and bring the dog on in the last quarter for some fresh legs

I reckon Arthur was a few weeks out in his timing, an obvious candidate for Sturt DCC C grade, as he's a "splendid little chap" and obviously a fast bowler. He has four short legs and his balls swing both ways....

http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27608&start=80

[looks skyward] Johnners you are still missed from TMS

[sapaul]

You think opposition supporters care?

Judging by all the replies today, guess they do.

[csbowes]

Reckon Ben has definitely slowed and it will be his last year.
I think his 'smarts' are what keeps him in it and he'll still provide value in crunch games but his lack of pace will be exploited at times.
To tell you the truth I haven't noticed him much in games this year which may say alot more about his influence than I realised until I just gave it some thought.

I noticed him in the game against Torrens... he was the one watching the ball go between the big sticks time and time again... but on a serious note, I think you're right, I think he has slowed, he's all brains and talent, but no real pace anymore, he's more of a body, hard hitting contact player I reckon, we probably need to use him in a different position really. Maybe he'd be more affective up forward, where his pace not be as much of an issue, you know, body people out of the way, kick true etc...

[csbowes]

time for Herring and Bode to have a run in the two's, there confidence is down at the moment, Bode has only played the 1 good game this year while Herring yeah.

Definitely agree with Herring having a run in the Magoos... he's a player with heaps of potential, but he seems to amazingly fail at allowing that potential to come to the fore. He's got a good body for CHF etc, he marks well, but he has no confidence in his ability to kick winning goals, he needs to be more arrogant and seriously back himself much more often...

[csbowes]

Looking at Sturt.

I see them as a team of individuals - exactly like Norman said.

I think there is a few in that side that are there for the wrong reasons.

Just my assessment anyway.......

Fair assessment too... I think the team is well ahead of itself... last year we were written off against the Tigers and Doggies and I think the team lifted to do incredible things in the finals (without Chambers).

But this year there has been an expectation that Sturt would make the grannie again and I think the team has let that affect their work rate against the lesser opponents, teams they spanked last season.

As a consequence, rocking up thinking just being there earns you a 10 goal win, has meant the team has been embarrassed time and time again, South should have and deserved to win by 5 goals.

We should be 2-4.

The team needs to buck-up and remember that playing below par will result in a belting...

[csbowes]

You think opposition supporters care?

Judging by all the replies today, guess they do.

That's cos deep down most of them love us to bits...

[Dog-boy]

You will be there in September,its all about how you react to the loss!!
You thumped us on Anzac day and the team responded the following week,the same as last year when you spanked us at Unley,i believe Lairdy uses these games to motivate the team maybe if you had spanked us during the year in 2002 we might have had a better outcome at the end of the year.
You have the players you have a good coach you have passionate supporters but deep down does your team believe it can win when it really matters.(Consistently)

[csbowes]

Bottom line is Sturt can easily salvage this season... its not in dire staits a la Crows, we're just in a position whereby a few more stupid performances will see us fall too far behind 3rd and maybe even 5th... we turn that around post this weeks bye and Sturt can easily put themselves in a position to challenge again. The fact remains that on paper the team is still highly talented and well regarded in the league, amongst other teams, other coaches...

[southee]

Thanks CSBowes....

I was not having a go at Sturt. Just think this year they are lacking a real "respect" for opposition teams. Like the South, Norwood games.

I think also some of the players have a bit of a arrogance about them and forgetting the word "Team". :?

[Voice]

Thanks CSBowes....

I was not having a go at Sturt. Just think this year they are lacking a real "respect" for opposition teams. Like the South, Norwood games.

I think also some of the players have a bit of a arrogance about them and forgetting the word "Team". :?

We agree, believe me. You just have to look at db.org and you'll see most of us are saying the same.
I've called for us to get some arrogance in our game. Centrals type arrogance though, not our current 'I'm so good that I don't have to try' arrogance.

[purch]

Ben Nelson. Where is he at?

I asked this on the review thread and got no answer.

Nelson was one of those players got us back in the game in Rnd 1 at Noarlunga. A bit of a hare v tortoise thing I guess. He can sometimes make an impact when things are close or slipping away, by using his experience.

[Big Phil]

Obvious statement I know, but losing Coad was such a blow to the Double Blues...

Not only was he so flexible and can do jobs both down back and kick goals up forward when needed, but he was capable of being an impact player...

Coming into a game for a small period and doing something spectacular, be it a team lifting goal, a strong defensive pack mark or provide great run from half back...

Unfortunately for Sturt supporters, no one can and would be able to replace Michael Coad, he was a star of this competition IMO and someone I think Sturt are missing more than they perhaps thought they would have.

Ryan Herring COULD be that impact player IF he wanted to be, but as previously stated, seems to lack the confidence and grunt to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

I've always wondered how Herring would go at CHB and maybe put Thurstans at CHF, we all know that he is capable of taking strong marks and kicking goals...

Just my thoughts...

[Voice]

Obvious statement I know, but losing Coad was such a blow to the Double Blues...

Not only was he so flexible and can do jobs both down back and kick goals up forward when needed, but he was capable of being an impact player...

Coming into a game for a small period and doing something spectacular, be it a team lifting goal, a strong defensive pack mark or provide great run from half back...

Unfortunately for Sturt supporters, no one can and would be able to replace Michael Coad, he was a star of this competition IMO and someone I think Sturt are missing more than they perhaps thought they would have.

Ryan Herring COULD be that impact player IF he wanted to be, but as previously stated, seems to lack the confidence and grunt to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

I've always wondered how Herring would go at CHB and maybe put Thurstans at CHF, we all know that he is capable of taking strong marks and kicking goals...

Just my thoughts...

And very smart thoughts BP. I've been thinking that for a while now but was shot down by some people when I mentioned it.

[Barto]

Obvious statement I know, but losing Coad was such a blow to the Double Blues...

Not only was he so flexible and can do jobs both down back and kick goals up forward when needed, but he was capable of being an impact player...

Coming into a game for a small period and doing something spectacular, be it a team lifting goal, a strong defensive pack mark or provide great run from half back...

Unfortunately for Sturt supporters, no one can and would be able to replace Michael Coad, he was a star of this competition IMO and someone I think Sturt are missing more than they perhaps thought they would have.

Ryan Herring COULD be that impact player IF he wanted to be, but as previously stated, seems to lack the confidence and grunt to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

I've always wondered how Herring would go at CHB and maybe put Thurstans at CHF, we all know that he is capable of taking strong marks and kicking goals...

Just my thoughts...

And very smart thoughts BP. I've been thinking that for a while now but was shot down by some people when I mentioned it.

People laughed when Freo put Tarrant in defence. Never understood why some players are always "forwards", give them a run in the backlines and see what happens.

[JK]

Obvious statement I know, but losing Coad was such a blow to the Double Blues...

Not only was he so flexible and can do jobs both down back and kick goals up forward when needed, but he was capable of being an impact player...

Coming into a game for a small period and doing something spectacular, be it a team lifting goal, a strong defensive pack mark or provide great run from half back...

Unfortunately for Sturt supporters, no one can and would be able to replace Michael Coad, he was a star of this competition IMO and someone I think Sturt are missing more than they perhaps thought they would have.

Ryan Herring COULD be that impact player IF he wanted to be, but as previously stated, seems to lack the confidence and grunt to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

I've always wondered how Herring would go at CHB and maybe put Thurstans at CHF, we all know that he is capable of taking strong marks and kicking goals...

Just my thoughts...

And very smart thoughts BP. I've been thinking that for a while now but was shot down by some people when I mentioned it.

People laughed when Freo put Tarrant in defence. Never understood why some players are always "forwards", give them a run in the backlines and see what happens.

Has been plenty of good cases of that happening over the years, Bruce Winter, Craig Balme, Roger Delaney to name a few (many others Im sure) .. In recent times Brett Zorsi became one of the competitions best Fullbacks when moved from the midfield.

Sure it's not always going to work out, but I would have thought Thurstans could play forward and I've always thought Herring looked like a footballer who could one day be among the best 50 in the comp - IMHO doesn't sound like a silly idea at all.

[Big Phil]

Sometimes players need the reponsibility of being given a role to shut someone down or to do a certain job rather than be creative themselves amd use their natural ability and desire to have an impact on the game in the way that is expected or needed of them.

I think Ryan Herring going to CHB might be exactly what he needs to not only improve his confidence but make him realise his worth to the side and prove to supporters and himself how valuable he actually is to the Double Blues.

I think of guys like Daniel Schell and Daniel Havelberg at Central and how their abilities and flexibilites allow them to play KP at either end of the ground. I think Herring COULD be this type of player if given the chance and further from that, I must admit, I've always thought that Ryan Herring would be a good fit at the Doggies.

[sturtpeter]

Most disappointing results against Norwood and the Eagles.

We were in a similar situation in 2003, ironically after winning the Premiership in 2002. Started 3-5 and ended up 13-7 after the Minor Round only to bounce out in our Final against the Eagles.

I think Glenelg beat us by about 8 goals at Unley before the bye. We played the Panthers the next Round and won comprehensively.

[Big Phil]

Most disappointing results against Norwood and the Eagles.

We were in a similar situation in 2003, ironically after winning the Premiership in 2002. Started 3-5 and ended up 13-7 after the Minor Round only to bounce out in our Final against the Eagles.

I think Glenelg beat us by about 8 goals at Unley before the bye. We played the Panthers the next Round and won comprehensively.

Not a dissapointment for you sturtpeter, your 'other' side won, it was always a win/win situation for you

[Big Phil]

Most disappointing results against Norwood and the Eagles.

We were in a similar situation in 2003, ironically after winning the Premiership in 2002. Started 3-5 and ended up 13-7 after the Minor Round only to bounce out in our Final against the Eagles.

I think Glenelg beat us by about 8 goals at Unley before the bye. We played the Panthers the next Round and won comprehensively.

Was that the final at Footy Park where Tim Inkster took that massive hanger for the Eagles down the northern end ?