Eagles v West Match Review

[Dogmatic]

How well is Welsh contributing to the Eagles?

Welsh isn't kicking bags of goals, that has been done by Salter most weeks. What Welsh has been doing is giving space for Salter to work in effectively. He has also being doing many 1% ers like blocking other defenders or drawing a good defender away from our other forwards. I would say an effective contibutor at the moment without setting the world on fire. Thought his game today was his best for the Eags. I believe Godden rates his contributions highly and he has been terrific for the younger players around the club off the field.

Thanks
That is what I expecting him to do however unless you are at the game you don't know.

[wedgetail]

Entertaining game today with 2 contrasting styles. Eagles still a little fumbly under pressure and this may be punished by Centrals or Glenelg. I thought West were persitent all day and did pretty well around the stopages. A lift in intensity at crucial times in the last 1/4 by the Eags helped get the 29 pt margin with 10 min to go which proved too much. Groecke outstanding today and given best by the club. James Stewart a very encouraging return- skillful, quick, determined and runs in straight lines - in best 4 today. I thought Treeby turned the corner in the second 1/2 today. Gilhause improving with every outing and another trophy winner.

[Mark_Beswick]

I thought it was a good quality game - Its a shame westies can't get their best team on the park. Have heard that Bennett, Adam Hartlett and maybe Fergusson will be available next week. Maybe Lobbe and in the near future Morris may make a return to the B's. Some real quality players to slot in if we can stay in touch - I think our depth has come a long way - Shame Travis Ronaldson bailed.

The side that played today compared to Rd 1 v North were missing: Porplycia, Schmidt, Lobbe, Hartlett, Ronaldson, Fergusson, Bennett... I guess its a strecth counting porps - (Birss and Munn were available however). A year or so ago, such outs would have seen us lose games by 12 goals plus - Next weeks game v South could be a season decider!

[Columbo]

Does anyone know how the Eagles lad is that went off on a stretcher in the reserves game after a sickening head clash with Wade Champion.

That was one of the hardest clashes I can recall seeing, great commitment from both guys, sure their coaches will be showing that bit of video during the week, and also good to see they were both up and about by the end of the game.

Still a bit of work to do for the Eagles, but they found a way to win.

Without harping on about it, glad Richard Williams decided to go around again with the whistle...pity his feel for the game cant be transplanted into his colleagues, some baffling decisions both ways today.

[LPH]

How well is Welsh contributing to the Eagles?

I thought he played his BEST game for the club, yesterday.
Attacked the ball hard & presented himself - all you can ask, really.

I have said ALL year, I would like to see him played across halfback - as 'Rocket' Eade did last season.
That would be a '2 fold' advantage - fees him up to run hard & straight, McKenzie can play on the ball.

[Ron Burgundy]

I admit that our ball skills probly cost us the game and no Ruckman. The loss of Bennett really didnt help us aswell. Good effort by the boys though

what happened to Ryan?
good to see Scott Lewis Doing welle

Groin i thought i herd

Correct.

[human_torpedo]

I had the 'privilige' of being at Pecker Park yesterday to watch this game, and it was hardly one for the archives. The Eagles, although not convincing, appeared to be in control through out the game, but West never gave up to there credit, even when 5 goals down half way through the last, they rallied again, and had Flash been pinged for holding the ball, wouldve been within a goal with 4 minutes to play. Eagles probably deserved the result, and the scoreboard rightly reflected the days play.

West, although they had no ruckman, look like they can match it with the big boys this year, even though I have my doubts they will play finals, in fact I have no doubt, they wont play finals, but will give some top sides a scare, as they did to North in round 1, and have done to the Eagles and Centrals in recent weeks. There defence is very solid, Chubb and Silvester done brilliant jobs yesterday (i thought), and forced Godden to push Welsh up the ground to get his kicks. Chubb get Salter quiet all day until a late flurry saw him get on the scorecard. Ezard and Rowe are quality midfielders, with service from Lobbe when he returns, they will be dangerous.

Eagles, well they were scrappy all day, Jarrad and Lewis were good, although it is a constant source of frustration that Jarrad, the most natural wingman the SANFL has to offer, is being played across half back more this year, Godden, get him on the wing where he belongs please. Welsh, well, im not convinced on him yet, and I might be a little critical here, but I still wasnt impressed yesterday, although a few on here seem too be. We recruited him to kick goals, not too sit across half back, or play as a decoy, but too kick goals, and he hasnt looked like doing that this year. Miles and Parry will hopefully form a solid ruck pairing, because I am not sold on Guilhaus yet, despite his good game yesterday, I think he needs to learn his game more in the two's, with Hoban.


Overall though, take the 2 points, and look too North this week, and try and stop there potent forward line from kicking a match winning score

[blood_n_tars]

Eagles killed us in the middle today. Lack of a recognised ruckman really hurt us.

Lewis and Jarrad were running around like unregistered dogs and really used the ball well on most occasions.

Salter was well held by Chubb with all of Salter's score coming in the last quarter.

Does anyone know how the Eagles lad is that went off on a stretcher in the reserves game after a sickening head clash with Wade Champion.

Bloods 08 .I thought your guys took the ball away from centre better than we did.Your smalls were faster than ours IMHO.But i don't think your over defensive game style helps your teams cause just what I think.
Hicks was walking around after the game.
Staples I think broke his hand or hurt his shoulder
And someone else did a knee .Eagles Seconds won with no players on the bench .

Staple dislocated his shoulder. Hicks has a very deep cut from the head clash and Redden was injured at the half but continued on. Even kicked a goal on his left because his right quad was that bad. There was another injury as well- not a knee, but a calf. Can't remember who. A bad game for injuries- Eagles finished with 16 fit players.

Hicks should be fine. Redden is going to be a few weeks and I'm not sure about Staple.

[holden78]

Give Godden a break mate , look past the obvious and see what he is trying to develop . As for Flash Jarred , whos anything but , well half back is now his spot and he needs to develop his decision making , which will take time . Like Treeby and Powell , for years these guys have been getting away with burning the ball in a gameplan that didnt put a huge emphasis on it but now thats changed !

I had the 'privilige' of being at Pecker Park yesterday to watch this game, and it was hardly one for the archives. The Eagles, although not convincing, appeared to be in control through out the game, but West never gave up to there credit, even when 5 goals down half way through the last, they rallied again, and had Flash been pinged for holding the ball, wouldve been within a goal with 4 minutes to play. Eagles probably deserved the result, and the scoreboard rightly reflected the days play.

West, although they had no ruckman, look like they can match it with the big boys this year, even though I have my doubts they will play finals, in fact I have no doubt, they wont play finals, but will give some top sides a scare, as they did to North in round 1, and have done to the Eagles and Centrals in recent weeks. There defence is very solid, Chubb and Silvester done brilliant jobs yesterday (i thought), and forced Godden to push Welsh up the ground to get his kicks. Chubb get Salter quiet all day until a late flurry saw him get on the scorecard. Ezard and Rowe are quality midfielders, with service from Lobbe when he returns, they will be dangerous.

Eagles, well they were scrappy all day, Jarrad and Lewis were good, although it is a constant source of frustration that Jarrad, the most natural wingman the SANFL has to offer, is being played across half back more this year, Godden, get him on the wing where he belongs please. Welsh, well, im not convinced on him yet, and I might be a little critical here, but I still wasnt impressed yesterday, although a few on here seem too be. We recruited him to kick goals, not too sit across half back, or play as a decoy, but too kick goals, and he hasnt looked like doing that this year. Miles and Parry will hopefully form a solid ruck pairing, because I am not sold on Guilhaus yet, despite his good game yesterday, I think he needs to learn his game more in the two's, with Hoban.


Overall though, take the 2 points, and look too North this week, and try and stop there potent forward line from kicking a match winning score

[human_torpedo]

Holden, looking back at your past posts on the Eagles, and I have come to the conclusion that your nothing but a half-witted Imbecile mate. I have cleaned that up as best i can, I hope the moderators appreciate that fact.

I understand that Godden is trying to develop his own brand within his new club, but he has the best wingman/link up player in the SANFL at his mercy, and he is playing him across half back. No doubt your one of the blokes who want Welsh sweeping across the back flank too. If you think we recruited Welsh to be a half back sweeper, then your deluded mate, because we recruited him to kick goals, there are hundreds of players we could have chased if we wanted a half back flanker, and its an insult too them if Welsh is playing that role. He is one of the best set shot lead up targets outside of the AFL on his day, why play him across half back? Ill be the first to admit my reservations about James Stewart were wrong, he was fantastic yesterday, and I really hope he goes on with that promising start to his SANFL return, because if he can consistently perform like that across half back, he will fast become a vital cog inthe Eagles system..

I tend to share your apparent frustrations towards Treeby, but your thoughts on the past gameplan are baffling.. What gameplan doesnt put a big emphasis on hitting targets? You dont hit targets in footy, you dont win games, especially in modern footy, so im not sure what tree your barking up there mate? refer to the Adelaide Football Club and their current plight if you would like an example of this..

Im going to let your little snipe at Powell past there too, and put that down too your apparent lack of sense of reality..

[am Bays]

Jarrad better than O'Hara, as a wing/linkman..... O-K then......

[matt1]

Luke Jarrad is playing good football at half back and it is good that we are getting some momentum from back there - I say leave him there.

Welsh was recruited to kick goals - but I am convinced (as I asked) that he was recruited because the Club thought that Salter would play a lot more with the Power this season. Either way, Salter and Grocke are both benefiting from Welsh's presence in the team. Welsh went to half back on the weekend when West had a genuine run on - I thought it was a good move considering the circumstances and I am glad that Godden did it because he came up with an important spoil at a critical spot in the game.

Sure we all see it differently and I would like to see Welsh impose himself on games more but I think he is doing a lot of work for others at the moment. If Salter goes and plays AFL football I am sure you'll see him become the focal point of our attack.

[spell_check]

Overall though, take the 2 points, and look too North this week, and try and stop their potent forward line from kicking a match winning score

We have a potent forward line too (on its' day); so why try to be defensive for to stop theirs? I always say worrying about your defence first is a sign of saying your team isn't good enough.

[Reds08]

Pretty good summary there from HT, agree with most points. Good win for the Eags in the end, westies to their credit kept coming, but we managed to hold them off well. Pleasing to see Grocke step up the way he did with Salter and Welsh having pretty quiet days. Also good to see Stuey Hill sneak forward and kick a couple of vital goals. Obviously last week we were a bit stretched in defence, and Hilly had to go back there, but he is a natural forward, and looks much better working across half forward.

As for Luke Jarrad, 100% agree he is much more dangerous on the wing. Can't think of many better wingman over the past 5 or 6 years in the competition. O'Hara is outstanding, but Jarrad is definately in the same class. When he gets it in space, he rarely wastes it, but when he needs to account for an opponent across the half back line, he just looks lost. Wouldnt think his decision making needs work, just his defensive awareness if he is to stay at half back. Don't really rate welsh's input at the moment either, but someone else did mention a crucial spoil he made late in the last quarter, which was timely.

Can't criticise to much though, Godden's style seems to be well received, and we are sitting top, so very happy with the lads at the moment. As for some people's inference that in the past we have played with the idea that poor ball use isn't an issue, i struggle to understand how we are supporting the same team. Baffling comments really.

Satisfying win anyway, hopefully we can back it up next week.

[Mickyj]

Luke Jarrad is playing good football at half back and it is good that we are getting some momentum from back there - I say leave him there.

Welsh was recruited to kick goals - but I am convinced (as I asked) that he was recruited because the Club thought that Salter would play a lot more with the Power this season. Either way, Salter and Grocke are both benefiting from Welsh's presence in the team. Welsh went to half back on the weekend when West had a genuine run on - I thought it was a good move considering the circumstances and I am glad that Godden did it because he came up with an important spoil at a critical spot in the game.

Sure we all see it differently and I would like to see Welsh impose himself on games more but I think he is doing a lot of work for others at the moment. If Salter goes and plays AFL football I am sure you'll see him become the focal point of our attack.

spot on Matt1
Two highlights in the last quarter.
Scott Welsh going down back as a lose man in defence .To take a screamer in defence about 20seconds latter.Perhaps right in front of Loud Eagle Hooligan
And cica taking a risk in the back line .running with the ball getting the ball to move forward.Ball ended up with Grocke (I think) goal as a result.

Lets look back on the luke Jarrad stuff up ,will call it that.Umpire called play on he got a hand ball away .Why was he doing that either the Eagles were not moving for him or Westies had all moved into their forward line .
I would suggest if he had kicked a long left footer from the goal square.the ball may well have come back over his head for a goal!!

Best Eagle players this year are prepared to take a risk and back themselves.
Number 1 this year Scott Lewis followed by CICA IMHO.
And little (hard nut player mind u) Jimmy Stewart that run down the memebers wing that resulted in a goal yesterday was fantastic .

DARE I say this hell yeah why not
FORTRESS WOODVILLE 3 games so far this year 3 wins to the EAGLES!!!
All the boys can do is win !!!

[Aerie]

Luke Jarrad is playing good football at half back and it is good that we are getting some momentum from back there - I say leave him there.

Welsh was recruited to kick goals - but I am convinced (as I asked) that he was recruited because the Club thought that Salter would play a lot more with the Power this season. Either way, Salter and Grocke are both benefiting from Welsh's presence in the team. Welsh went to half back on the weekend when West had a genuine run on - I thought it was a good move considering the circumstances and I am glad that Godden did it because he came up with an important spoil at a critical spot in the game.

Sure we all see it differently and I would like to see Welsh impose himself on games more but I think he is doing a lot of work for others at the moment. If Salter goes and plays AFL football I am sure you'll see him become the focal point of our attack.

Completely agree re Jarrad and Welsh.

I think Jarrad has been fantastic across half back. His most consistent start to a season. He can be exploited in a one on one when he is required to purely defend, but the positives outweigh the negatives. Watch teams begin to tag him with a forward line player as the season progresses. The addition of James Stewart back there with him is great for the team as Stewie is another who can carry and deliver quality ball so we don't just rely on Jarrad. Geddes is also playing his best league footy on the wing at the moment.

From a supporters perspective who just rocks up to the outer on game day, I'm really impressed with Godden at the moment. I reckon everything he is trying to do looks positive and so far has worked. Of course it is a long road ahead and it is not only about getting a game plan and the right team balance, but also being able to motivate week in, week out and keep the players performing at their optimum.

[Mickyj]

From a supporters perspective who just rocks up to the outer on game day, I'm really impressed with Godden at the moment. I reckon everything he is trying to do looks positive and so far has worked. Of course it is a long road ahead and it is not only about getting a game plan and the right team balance, but also being able to motivate week in, week out and keep the players performing at their optimum.

I must put my hand up here since going to training(along with a few from the Eagles forum and here ) since pre pre season started .Mick and Kym as well as Smithy have all taken the time to stop and either say G'day.Or have a chat with myself and others .Very impressed with the openness and member friendliness of the coaching staff .
I can not escape the coaching panel they always have a big smile and chat with me . the younger Players look a bit perplexed with all us fans,older guys well they don't mind a chat .And Poor SEB last week almost chocked on his water when I asked him a question.Never seen a huge guy choke on water before
Certainly seems like a different place this year.
Cheers
Mick

[human_torpedo]

Overall though, take the 2 points, and look too North this week, and try and stop their potent forward line from kicking a match winning score

We have a potent forward line too (on its' day); so why try to be defensive for to stop theirs? I always say worrying about your defence first is a sign of saying your team isn't good enough.

Im not saying we dont have a potent forward line mate, but I think the key to winning this game is not allowing Gill, Stewart, Alleway and White free reign all day.. They fire, they kick a cricket score like they did against South the other week.. We shut them down, they kick less than 60 points like they have for the other games they have played this year and Eagles win..

[spell_check]

Overall though, take the 2 points, and look too North this week, and try and stop their potent forward line from kicking a match winning score

We have a potent forward line too (on its' day); so why try to be defensive for to stop theirs? I always say worrying about your defence first is a sign of saying your team isn't good enough.

Im not saying we dont have a potent forward line mate, but I think the key to winning this game is not allowing Gill, Stewart, Alleway and White free reign all day.. They fire, they kick a cricket score like they did against South the other week.. We shut them down, they kick less than 60 points like they have for the other games they have played this year and Eagles win..

I'd like to see that happen, but not at the expense of getting down to our forward line and having the same thing being done to our forwards.

[Mate]

Welsh hasnt played half back in any of the games this year. Godden threw him back as a loose late in the game to stop Westies run of 3 quick goals. Other than that 3 or 4 minute period he has played forward in all games.