CROWS Nest discussion - ROUND 6 - Adelaide v PA - Sat 1/5/10

[The Dark Knight]

I reckon it's going to be pretty close. Port by 20 points. Talk of the bringing back Taylor Walker for the game. Knew they couldn't leave him in the SANFL for more than One game.

[Dutchy]

All but confirmed that Jaensch will play. All the best to the bloke, had to dig deep after that incident when he was about to play in the U/18 Champs and has worked hard to get where he is today.

I am very confident he will be a class act at AFL level.

SAFooty's own! Congrats...

[Whitey23]

Im not just saying this because I'm a massive Crows supporter, but I really think this is the week they will turn it around. My bold prediction is that the Crows will win their next 3... With games V Port, V Richmond and @ North Melbourne, I really think all of these games are very winnable for the Crows. Mind you... in saying this, I did think we would be 4-0 after the first four games...

[Felch]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

[Rik E Boy]

In: Jaensch, Stevens, Bock (if not Bock, McKernan)
Out: Dangerfield, Henderson, Knights

Knight too. Shaping up to be one of those years.

Just don't do a Hawthorn. In 2008 it was a flood, in 2009 it was a flood of tears. Sales of Floaties went through the roof...that's inflation for you.

regards,

REB

[stan]

Im not just saying this because I'm a massive Crows supporter, but I really think this is the week they will turn it around. My bold prediction is that the Crows will win their next 3... With games V Port, V Richmond and @ North Melbourne, I really think all of these games are very winnable for the Crows. Mind you... in saying this, I did think we would be 4-0 after the first four games...

Thats a good point and very possible, if your going to turn it around, this will be the week for it. And if you do win the next 3, well then sitting at 3-5 might not be great but at least you would have some confidence back.

[JK]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

I reckon that shows that when Port set themselves they for a clash that "proves a point" they are hard to beat, and of course the Showdown slots into that category perfectly ... I can't see the Crows getting the Choccies this week, although I guess the AFL comp does have a habit of throwing up winners from left field most weeks.

[Booney]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

Round 3 - Brisbane in good nick and Brown was fit and flying. Not the best Port side that day on the park. Brisbanes first road trip of 2010 too. Always a good chance to get the guys to bond/fire up.

Round 4 - Geelong un-firl the 2009 flag and brush us aside with an outstanding display. Johnson bags 6 ( fair to say he hasnt done much else this year ) and Mooney,Chapman and Hawkins ( lazy sod ) all played well. Wont be the only side to lose to them by 15 goals this year and there is no doubt they are now a huge mental hurdle for us.

Round 5 - Beat the St's at their game. Boring as bat droppings at times but showed we have the poise in the back half and the targets up forward to kick winning scores. Therein lies the difference.

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

[Felch]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

Round 3 - Brisbane in good nick and Brown was fit and flying. Not the best Port side that day on the park. Brisbanes first road trip of 2010 too. Always a good chance to get the guys to bond/fire up.

Round 4 - Geelong un-firl the 2009 flag and brush us aside with an outstanding display. Johnson bags 6 ( fair to say he hasnt done much else this year ) and Mooney,Chapman and Hawkins ( lazy sod ) all played well. Wont be the only side to lose to them by 15 goals this year and there is no doubt they are now a huge mental hurdle for us.

Round 5 - Beat the St's at their game. Boring as bat droppings at times but showed we have the poise in the back half and the targets up forward to kick winning scores. Therein lies the difference.

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

Geez Booney, i was starting to build a case, and you go and spoil things with facts...pffft....

Seriously though, some of those same things could be said about some of our opponents this year. There are always reasons/excuses to be found for a sides performance. We have been terrible this year, but last week we were ok for a quarter and a half, and ordinary-to-bad for the rest of the game - thats an improvement on other weeks!

I think we are not far off kicking a winning score, there were glimpses last week. Things are going to click sooner or later. Also, we may not need to kick a huge score to win. 8-9 goals may just be enough, if the match resembles the Port-Saints clash at all.

[Gingernuts]

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

Adelaide haven't been kicking a winning score, doesn't mean they can't. It's essentially the same forward line that was kicking 15-20 goals a game late last season (minus Knights). We're not talking about Richmond who haven't consistently kicked a winning score for years and don't look like doing so anytime soon.

This form slump is more about confidence than skill or ability for mine. I am convinced that they will come good eventually, it's just a matter of when, and whether it will be too late when it finally does happen (Some people would say it already is! I think there is still a window open though).

[nuggety goodness]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

Round 3 - Brisbane in good nick and Brown was fit and flying. Not the best Port side that day on the park. Brisbanes first road trip of 2010 too. Always a good chance to get the guys to bond/fire up.

Round 4 - Geelong un-firl the 2009 flag and brush us aside with an outstanding display. Johnson bags 6 ( fair to say he hasnt done much else this year ) and Mooney,Chapman and Hawkins ( lazy sod ) all played well. Wont be the only side to lose to them by 15 goals this year and there is no doubt they are now a huge mental hurdle for us.

Round 5 - Beat the St's at their game. Boring as bat droppings at times but showed we have the poise in the back half and the targets up forward to kick winning scores. Therein lies the difference.

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

i'd hardly call 7 goals 12 a match winning score... Adelaide's about the only side you could consistently kick that and win the match atm...

with Dangerfield and Knights definately out it is looking much more one sided...

Tippet will almost have to play a lone hand and MAYBE Craig will play Walker out of the square, BUT if that is the case he'll get either Chaplin or Carlisle and get beaten badly...

i think the game will be won by Port's defence. that seems to be a lot more solid than the Crows at the moment... the Crows won't kick more than 8 goals...

[valleys07]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

Round 3 - Brisbane in good nick and Brown was fit and flying. Not the best Port side that day on the park. Brisbanes first road trip of 2010 too. Always a good chance to get the guys to bond/fire up.

Round 4 - Geelong un-firl the 2009 flag and brush us aside with an outstanding display. Johnson bags 6 ( fair to say he hasnt done much else this year ) and Mooney,Chapman and Hawkins ( lazy sod ) all played well. Wont be the only side to lose to them by 15 goals this year and there is no doubt they are now a huge mental hurdle for us.

Round 5 - Beat the St's at their game. Boring as bat droppings at times but showed we have the poise in the back half and the targets up forward to kick winning scores. Therein lies the difference.

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

i'd hardly call 7 goals 12 a match winning score... Adelaide's about the only side you could consistently kick that and win the match atm...

with Dangerfield and Knights definately out it is looking much more one sided...

Tippet will almost have to play a lone hand and MAYBE Craig will play Walker out of the square, BUT if that is the case he'll get either Chaplin or Carlisle and get beaten badly...

i think the game will be won by Port's defence. that seems to be a lot more solid than the Crows at the moment... the Crows won't kick more than 8 goals...

Was last weekend in all seriousness though i agree the games will be won in defence.

Port were kept to 7 goals only because there were 34 players in ports forward half.......not even the best sides would be able to score through that. The crows dont play the same style of football and have been leaking goals like a $1 sieve, yes port dont have the greatest forward line going around.....but at this stage i cant see where the crows are going to get their goals from...

[Felch]

I have been giving this game some thought, and i keep hearing the comment (even from myself) that Port are in good form. Are they really though ? They were very, very good last week but the previous fortnight they were diabolical. If anything, their form last week shows that poor form can be turned around extremely quick.

Im still not sure we can win, but i can at least mount a bit of a case for us to get the points.

Round 3 - Brisbane in good nick and Brown was fit and flying. Not the best Port side that day on the park. Brisbanes first road trip of 2010 too. Always a good chance to get the guys to bond/fire up.

Round 4 - Geelong un-firl the 2009 flag and brush us aside with an outstanding display. Johnson bags 6 ( fair to say he hasnt done much else this year ) and Mooney,Chapman and Hawkins ( lazy sod ) all played well. Wont be the only side to lose to them by 15 goals this year and there is no doubt they are now a huge mental hurdle for us.

Round 5 - Beat the St's at their game. Boring as bat droppings at times but showed we have the poise in the back half and the targets up forward to kick winning scores. Therein lies the difference.

Adelaide cant kick a winning score.

i'd hardly call 7 goals 12 a match winning score... Adelaide's about the only side you could consistently kick that and win the match atm...

with Dangerfield and Knights definately out it is looking much more one sided...

Tippet will almost have to play a lone hand and MAYBE Craig will play Walker out of the square, BUT if that is the case he'll get either Chaplin or Carlisle and get beaten badly...

i think the game will be won by Port's defence. that seems to be a lot more solid than the Crows at the moment... the Crows won't kick more than 8 goals...

Was last weekend in all seriousness though i agree the games will be won in defence.

Port were kept to 7 goals only because there were 34 players in ports forward half.......not even the best sides would be able to score through that. The crows dont play the same style of football and have been leaking goals like a $1 sieve, yes port dont have the greatest forward line going around.....but at this stage i cant see where the crows are going to get their goals from...

Maybe that is the exact tactics Adelaide need to employ. They have had trouble kicking scores themselves, so stop the opposition kicking one also.

[Rik E Boy]

Maybe that is the exact tactics Adelaide need to employ. They have had trouble kicking scores themselves, so stop the opposition kicking one also.

If St Kilda can't beat Port doing this then how the hell can Adelaide expect to?

regards,

REB

[Whitey23]

think about it though.... Port, while they have been winning, havn't had the toughest opposition going around...

Round 1 V North, led by 7 goals at the start of the last quarter and won by 14 points... at AAMI
Round 2 @ WCE, led by 4 goals at half time, won by 3 points
Round 3 V Bris, touched up
Round 4 @ Geel, once again... touched up
Round 5 V STK, I'll give them that one, they obviously played well to beat the Saints, but conditions did suit them...

I think port have been a bit lucky so far this season, its only a matter of time until they really get found out. I honestly don't think they are the team everyone is making them out to be.

[Felch]

Maybe that is the exact tactics Adelaide need to employ. They have had trouble kicking scores themselves, so stop the opposition kicking one also.

If St Kilda can't beat Port doing this then how the hell can Adelaide expect to?

regards,

REB

Why dont you and Booney take your common sense and intelligence elsewhere...this is the Crows thread, its not wanted here !

[valleys07]

think about it though.... Port, while they have been winning, havn't had the toughest opposition going around...

Round 1 V North, led by 7 goals at the start of the last quarter and won by 14 points... at AAMI
Round 2 @ WCE, led by 4 goals at half time, won by 3 points
Round 3 V Bris, touched up
Round 4 @ Geel, once again... touched up
Round 5 V STK, I'll give them that one, they obviously played well to beat the Saints, but conditions did suit them...

I think port have been a bit lucky so far this season, its only a matter of time until they really get found out. I honestly don't think they are the team everyone is making them out to be.

We have been found out, watch round 4 on how to dismantle us completely. Point is will the crows be able to field a side capable of "Finding us out"?

[Felch]

think about it though.... Port, while they have been winning, havn't had the toughest opposition going around...

Round 1 V North, led by 7 goals at the start of the last quarter and won by 14 points... at AAMI
Round 2 @ WCE, led by 4 goals at half time, won by 3 points
Round 3 V Bris, touched up
Round 4 @ Geel, once again... touched up
Round 5 V STK, I'll give them that one, they obviously played well to beat the Saints, but conditions did suit them...

I think port have been a bit lucky so far this season, its only a matter of time until they really get found out. I honestly don't think they are the team everyone is making them out to be.

We have been found out, watch round 4 on how to dismantle us completely. Point is will the crows be able to field a side capable of "Finding us out"?

Thats the worry for Adelaide. They may know what to do, just wont be able to do it !

[Gingernuts]

Maybe that is the exact tactics Adelaide need to employ. They have had trouble kicking scores themselves, so stop the opposition kicking one also.

If St Kilda can't beat Port doing this then how the hell can Adelaide expect to?

regards,

REB

Personally, looking at Tippett's improved game last week, I think they should get it long to him, and they need to get it to him deep within the forward line, ideally 30 mtrs or less out from goal. I don't think Port has a match up for him if the ball is moved in quickly. At the same time get Porps and Petrenko/Cook to run towards goal from the half forward flanks ready for the crumbs.

The key is clean disposal which is severly lacking at the moment unfortunately. Kick and Handballs need to be direct and hit targets, and Marks need to be taken. This gives the opposition no opportunity to hurt you on the rebound by putting numbers in defence and collecting the spills, which every team has done to the Crows in every game so far this year.

Easiest way to win games is to deny your opposition the footy. They can't do anything if they don't have the pill.

[Booney]

NG - the 7.12 you speak of is not usually a winning score, but not many teams would have kicked 7 against the Saints last Saturday night.

GN - Tippett will be swamped by Carlile and C.Cornes floating, we know if we limit his impact Adelaide will struggle.