Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

[milbo]

I might be reading too much into things but last night on 5AA Rowe said he'd spent an hour on the phone with Backwell almost begging him to stay. Following on from Bayman's post about this not just being about the NT thing (ie, relating back to events last year) I immediately wondered why it was Rowey (midfield coach) doing the begging and not any other club official?

For the record, Rowe didn't say that he was the only one who tried to convince him to stay. I just thought it strange as soon as Rowe said it. There might be nothing in it and Rowe was the last in line to have a crack at it. Maybe Rowey and Backwell were close and so he was delegated the task (would make sense as Backwell plays midfield).

One thing I am certain about is that Rowe and the Mouse are not close. I get the feeling Rowe may been prone to the occasional exaggeration...

It was embarrassing hearing him say that he was on the phone convincing him to stay when the messenger had already released the story with quotes from Mouse saying he'd been terminated the previous day. It was also sad to hear him tell us Mouse was "absolutely training the house down" one minute and then injured the next.

As he told us that the club had told him ... "he could have handled this situation and himself far far better".

[maxyoz]

One thing I am certain about is that Rowe and the Mouse are not close. I get the feeling Rowe may been prone to the occasional exaggeration...

Wrong - they are close.

[JK]

One thing I am certain about is that Rowe and the Mouse are not close. I get the feeling Rowe may been prone to the occasional exaggeration...

Wrong - they are close.

Well it's probably half right lol

[birdmanptr]

thinking about this whole situation i believe (rightly or wrongly) that mouses decision goes back to october when he alledgedly got the dcm then recalled when block & fisher departed, i believe this is where the crux of it comes from, he would've felt guttered, not wanted & betrayed, then a pay cut.....he gets an opportunity to earn (i don't believe he's playing for nothing) so he goes up there.....while i'm shattered i can understand his emotions & reasonings (presuming i'm right) in this whole sorry saga......i really do feel for him & on the other hand how will he feel when we go top & he isn't there or even worse in a losing grand final eagles outfit to glenelg

Thats the bottom line in all this he is earning money playing footy.So it should be a win for us as he will be match fit and in touch
Lets hope your last 7 words dont come back to haunt us the other way

So you would have the whole squad up there and then bring them all back one week before the finals?

The whole squad Grow up one player goes up there playing staying fit earning money and we sack him

[Dutchy]

thinking about this whole situation i believe (rightly or wrongly) that mouses decision goes back to october when he alledgedly got the dcm then recalled when block & fisher departed, i believe this is where the crux of it comes from, he would've felt guttered, not wanted & betrayed, then a pay cut.....he gets an opportunity to earn (i don't believe he's playing for nothing) so he goes up there.....while i'm shattered i can understand his emotions & reasonings (presuming i'm right) in this whole sorry saga......i really do feel for him & on the other hand how will he feel when we go top & he isn't there or even worse in a losing grand final eagles outfit to glenelg

Thats the bottom line in all this he is earning money playing footy.So it should be a win for us as he will be match fit and in touch
Lets hope your last 7 words dont come back to haunt us the other way

So you would have the whole squad up there and then bring them all back one week before the finals?

The whole squad Grow up one player goes up there playing staying fit earning money and we sack him

so make an exception for one player then?

[baysman]

Who's Mouse ?????????????

That's how far I've moved on

[whufc]

Haven't they made exceptions in the past season with Sam Rudolph coming back last season after travelling, then there was Kirk? who only wanted to play once he had enough of rowing/kayaking?. Also didn't Chris Hall sign last season at a later stage than this.

Why the sudden change, if any Backwells excuse seems the most reasonable, the loss seems great considering he is missing one training camp even though he has been keeping extremly fit in the off season.

[birdmanptr]

so make an exception for one player then?

Well it is the SANFL not like clubs are flushed with money huge memberships if a guy can earn a buck playing up there no harm done providing he dont get injured.So his Glenelg contract should be done yearly to avoid having a injuried player on our list

Any way no point going on hes gone i think its wrong, you and others think its right

For me its just a bewildering decision

[am Bays]

You're actually agreeing with him Dutchy, his point is aimed at the delusional ones who think they're different.
Just for the record I admire people like Milbo and those willing to look at both point of views, it's those sort of people players play for, not the ones who turn on them in seconds. It's people like this that improve the club IMHO with the mindless sheep that just tow the company line send clubs backwards. Not saying there are any on here, just making a hypothetical point that may or may not be in existence.

Does "delusional sheep" "towing the company line" apply to supporters who rather than posting concerns on an internet board/forum they contact the club directly with concerns about how the club is functioning a la one group of supporters I'm familiar with??

[Dirko]

Haven't they made exceptions in the past season with Sam Rudolph coming back last season after travelling, then there was Kirk? who only wanted to play once he had enough of rowing/kayaking?. Also didn't Chris Hall sign last season at a later stage than this.

Why the sudden change, if any Backwells excuse seems the most reasonable, the loss seems great considering he is missing one training camp even though he has been keeping extremly fit in the off season.

1. Sam Rudolph stepped away for a season, and advised the club well in time so they could recruit accordingly (Wayde Mills), and he was always going to come back to the Bays. The fact he returned from overseas in good nick allowed him to play a few reserves games last year. Sam and the club knew when he was returning and his situation.

2. Kirky got the offer from the Kayak dudes, which included training with the Olympic squad and pushing for a spot in the elite level of that sport. He'd be a fool to knock that back. It didn't work out and he came back and busted his arse in the reserves and made it back to the league squad.

3. Hall was a late recruit. Didn't realise there was a rule against recruiting late, which who knows, the club may recruit to replace Mouse.

4. Backwells case,according to Mickan, was he was allowed to play the 3 games before Christmas. He was told that he'd have to do training/camp etc as part of his contract and conditions. He played a further 2 games up in Darwin with out advising the club, and they found out second hand. He then requested to play finals which the club knocked back.

So what would Central do if a player just took off and played a couple of games of footy up in the NFL without notifying them ?

[Dutchy]

there no harm done providing he dont get injured.

And how do you ensure he doesnt get injured?

[Dirko]

MEDIA REALEASE

MEMBER WEB RELEASE - BRETT BACKWELL
Prior to preseason training commencing Brett explained that his business operation was too busy for him to attend training with Glenelg Football Club prior to Christmas. He also explained that he had the opportunity toplay some games for the Waratahs in the NTFL.

I gave permission for Brett to play 3 games for the Waratahs before Christmas and then Brett was to return to full time training with Glenelg Football Club post Christmas. Brett played 2 games for the Waratahs before Christmas and resumed full time training with Glenelg Football Club after Christmas.

On Friday February 5th Ken Applegarth (Football Manager) was alerted to the fact that Brett had played an additional two games for the Waratahs through January. Ken phoned me and advised me of this information. After approximately 3 days Brett returned my call.

After I returned from leave Ken Applegarth , Steve Barratt (CEO) and I met with Brett at the GFC on Monday February 15th. We explained to Brett that we were disappointed that he had played 2 extra games with the Waratahs after Christmas with no approval from the Glenelg Football Club. Brett explained that he still had a desire to play for the Waratahs and that he wanted to play for Glenelg also.

I made it clear that no further permission from Glenelg Football Club would be granted to Brett to play further games with the Waratahs and that Brett needed to decide what he wanted to do. It was made clear that there was still the opportunity for Brett to continue playing for Glenelg Football Club and to do that we needed a full commitment from him and that meant no more games for Waratahs and full training with Glenelg.

I made it clear to Brett that if he chose to play more games with the Waratahs he could not continue to train or play with Glenelg. I asked Brett to call me the next day (Tuesday Feb 16th) with a decision. Brett called back on Tuesday stating that he had chosen to play for the Waratahs. He understood that by making this decision he was no longer able to continue training or playing with Glenelg.

Mark Mickan
Senior Coach
_______________________________________________________________________________
Should any Members wish to discuss this matter I can be contacted on (08) 8294 5786. The Glenelg Football Club requires every player to be fully committed if we are to improve on last years performance.

Steven Barratt
Chief Executive Officer

[Booney]

so make an exception for one player then?

Well it is the SANFL not like clubs are flushed with money huge memberships if a guy can earn a buck playing up there no harm done providing he dont get injured.So his Glenelg contract should be done yearly to avoid having a injuried player on our list

Any way no point going on hes gone i think its wrong, you and others think its right

For me its just a bewildering decision

Only ever signed 1 year at a time anyway, didn't he?

[Booney]

You're actually agreeing with him Dutchy, his point is aimed at the delusional ones who think they're different.
Just for the record I admire people like Milbo and those willing to look at both point of views, it's those sort of people players play for, not the ones who turn on them in seconds. It's people like this that improve the club IMHO with the mindless sheep that just tow the company line send clubs backwards. Not saying there are any on here, just making a hypothetical point that may or may not be in existence.

Does "delusional sheep" "towing the company line" apply to supporters who rather than posting concerns on an internet board/forum they contact the club directly with concerns about how the club is functioning a la one group of supporters I'm familiar with??

Nah, that'd be in the best interests of the club.

[Dirko]

Only ever signed 1 year at a time anyway, didn't he?

Correct.

[Wedgie]

You're actually agreeing with him Dutchy, his point is aimed at the delusional ones who think they're different.
Just for the record I admire people like Milbo and those willing to look at both point of views, it's those sort of people players play for, not the ones who turn on them in seconds. It's people like this that improve the club IMHO with the mindless sheep that just tow the company line send clubs backwards. Not saying there are any on here, just making a hypothetical point that may or may not be in existence.

Does "delusional sheep" "towing the company line" apply to supporters who rather than posting concerns on an internet board/forum they contact the club directly with concerns about how the club is functioning a la one group of supporters I'm familiar with??

Nah mate, I was speaking more of those who just follow the club line who are just fed bullshit to keep the mindless supporters happy who have previously been critical of other supporter groups who might have already gone down the "contact the club" line but were too intelligent or had too much info to believe it knowing full well they were fed bullshit. In essence Im hypothetically having a go at the ignorant who have go at others in regard to instances they have no idea about whilst they ( and all clubs to different degrees) are in fact the ignorant fools and should STFU. All hypothetically speaking of course but the ones who aren't these ignorant sheep who are in fact their own clubs worst enemies are quite obvious.
Please note, noone should take offence at this as it's all hypothetical.

[maxyoz]

Please note, noone should take offence at this as it's all hypothetical.

Phew, thank goodness for that. I was starting to have paranoid delusions on top of my igonorant schizophrenia.

[Booney]

You're actually agreeing with him Dutchy, his point is aimed at the delusional ones who think they're different.
Just for the record I admire people like Milbo and those willing to look at both point of views, it's those sort of people players play for, not the ones who turn on them in seconds. It's people like this that improve the club IMHO with the mindless sheep that just tow the company line send clubs backwards. Not saying there are any on here, just making a hypothetical point that may or may not be in existence.

Does "delusional sheep" "towing the company line" apply to supporters who rather than posting concerns on an internet board/forum they contact the club directly with concerns about how the club is functioning a la one group of supporters I'm familiar with??

Nah mate, I was speaking more of those who just follow the club line who are just fed bullshit to keep the mindless supporters happy who have previously been critical of other supporter groups who might have already gone down the "contact the club" line but were too intelligent or had too much info to believe it knowing full well they were fed bullshit. In essence Im hypothetically having a go at the ignorant who have go at others in regard to instances they have no idea about whilst they ( and all clubs to different degrees) are in fact the ignorant fools and should STFU. All hypothetically speaking of course but the ones who aren't these ignorant sheep who are in fact their own clubs worst enemies are quite obvious.
Please note, noone should take offence at this as it's all hypothetical.

No way could anyone be offended by that, I doubt anyone will understand it....

hypothetical = nicely spoken bullshit.

[topsywaldron]

No way could anyone be offended by that, I doubt anyone will understand it....

Phew, I thought for a minute it was just me.

[Wedgie]

Working as intended.