Magpies/Power Merger 4th Option

[Apachebulldog]

One day it will happen the SANFL will be a feeder base for the allmighty omnipotent AFL.

[therisingblues]

I think Fremantle completely kicked ass when they had a reserves side in the WAFL. Could you imagine if Port and Crows finished 1st and 2nd in the SANFL but weren't allowed to play in finals? The SANFL would look very poor indeed.

[Barto]

I think Fremantle completely kicked ass when they had a reserves side in the WAFL. Could you imagine if Port and Crows finished 1st and 2nd in the SANFL but weren't allowed to play in finals? The SANFL would look very poor indeed.

Fremantle never had a reserves side in the WAFL.

[satan311]

I think Fremantle completely kicked ass when they had a reserves side in the WAFL. Could you imagine if Port and Crows finished 1st and 2nd in the SANFL but weren't allowed to play in finals? The SANFL would look very poor indeed.

Fremantle never had a reserves side in the WAFL.

Well you could say they did. They were aligned with South Fremantle for a few years and so all Freo players would play for them in the WAFL when not picked. That team did well, but not as well as the West Coast aligned team East Perth. They won 3 flags while aligned and dominated the comp. Thankfully sanity prevailed and the idea was scrapped for the sake of the WAFL

[Barto]

I think Fremantle completely kicked ass when they had a reserves side in the WAFL. Could you imagine if Port and Crows finished 1st and 2nd in the SANFL but weren't allowed to play in finals? The SANFL would look very poor indeed.

Fremantle never had a reserves side in the WAFL.

Well you could say they did. They were aligned with South Fremantle for a few years and so all Freo players would play for them in the WAFL when not picked. That team did well, but not as well as the West Coast aligned team East Perth. They won 3 flags while aligned and dominated the comp. Thankfully sanity prevailed and the idea was scrapped for the sake of the WAFL

Yeah they had the host club arrangement but it wasn't an actual ressies.

Didn't East Perth win a premiership outside the host club arrangement?

[Mr Beefy]

If the SANFL is, indeed, the strongest comp outside the AFL then I wouldn't expect an AFL reserves side to dominate, with their 18 year olds, has beens and never weres, and top up players from local leagues

[nickname]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

[Mr Beefy]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

[nickname]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Yes, I mean more bastardised than that.

[Booney]

With ( perhaps ) only 8 teams and one club a merged entity to boot.

[Hondo]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Yes, I mean more bastardised than that.

You mean players that pull out of SANFL finals because they only played 3 games there and train there once a week?

You mean players potentially being played out of position at their SANFL club at the request of the AFL club?

It suits the SANFL clubs to get these AFL listed players in their teams even though it comes at a but of a price.

I am not trying to contradict you here because a full on AFL reserves side is another level of bastardisation. But our comp is already compromised by the AFL. While I don't support Crows and Power reserves sides in the SANFL I think there are problems in the current interchange system that would be solved if the AFL listed players were left out of the SANFL clubs altogether.

[Barto]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Do you reckon a footballer would pull out of a contest against a team mate?

[Hondo]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Do you reckon a footballer would pull out of a contest against a team mate?

Do you really think all AFL listed players go full throttle for their SANFL club all the time?

[Mr Beefy]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Do you reckon a footballer would pull out of a contest against a team mate?

Probably not a st kilda player playing against lovett but ....

[Barto]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Do you reckon a footballer would pull out of a contest against a team mate?

Do you really think all AFL listed players go full throttle for their SANFL club all the time?

Good point. They definitely dont balk a contest in internal trials.

[westcoastpanther]

It's not a matter of whether they would dominate, it's the fact that we end up with a bastardised competition.

Do you mean more bastardised than AFL teammates playing against each other at SANFL level and one can never be quite sure they are going in as hard as they could be against their teammates?

Do you reckon a footballer would pull out of a contest against a team mate?

Do you really think all AFL listed players go full throttle for their SANFL club all the time?

If they want to impress their AFL coaches to get back in to the team then of course they will be going in hard. If they were seen to pull out/shirk a contest I don't think they would keep their AFL contracts very long.......or get back in to respective AFL team ever again

[nickname]

You mean players that pull out of SANFL finals because they only played 3 games there and train there once a week?

You mean players potentially being played out of position at their SANFL club at the request of the AFL club?

It suits the SANFL clubs to get these AFL listed players in their teams even though it comes at a but of a price.

I am not trying to contradict you here because a full on AFL reserves side is another level of bastardisation. But our comp is already compromised by the AFL. While I don't support Crows and Power reserves sides in the SANFL I think there are problems in the current interchange system that would be solved if the AFL listed players were left out of the SANFL clubs altogether.

I agree with that Hondo. But at least the SANFL clubs have the choice of selecting AFL listed players if they think they're getting an advantage out of them, and the allocation of these players is done with a view to trying to even up the comp (reverse premiership order). It doesn't create an uneven playing field in the way that a SANFL team using AFL standard training and rehab facilities and staff would.