Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

[Lightning McQueen]

Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.

Shhhh

[bayman]

My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.

Aaron Bird does

the bird that fielded in the wa v vic match last sunday fielded well

seriously though wasn't rowell banished from the game for the same reason ?

i don't think you can blame the players themselves, i think it goes back to their junior coaches for not picking up on it & getting them to change when they were kids

[jackpot jim]

The throwing debate is the biggest crock of shit of all time.
Apart from a kid i watched in u/12s the other week, the only bloke that has ever looked suspicious to me is Murali and the ICC hasn't got a problem with him so how can there be a problem with any one else then?
All this crap about degrees of flex in your arm and stuff, fair dinkum, what crap, the rule as it was b4 was right and they changed it simply for 1 person.
The game ON THE FIELD was once run by umpires, now it's run by the ICC and TV cameras.

[jackpot jim]

Yes, you try and gain extra spin by throwing the ball, no advantage. The chucking rule got introduced to outlaw players gaining extra pace by throwing the ball.

You have to be joking surely?

Go and try it mate.

I face an offie at training and when he chucks them with a Murali action, the ball turns 50% more.

[Lightning McQueen]

You have to be joking surely?

Go and try it mate.

I face an offie at training and when he chucks them with a Murali action, the ball turns 50% more.

But Murali doesn't chuck it, it's been proven through bio-mechanics.

[rod_rooster]

You have to be joking surely?

Go and try it mate.

I face an offie at training and when he chucks them with a Murali action, the ball turns 50% more.

But Murali doesn't chuck it, it's been proven through bio-mechanics.

He doesn't break the rules that they changed to accomodate the degree he straightens his arm. Just because his action is legal under the new rules doesn't mean he doesn't chuck.

[interested observer]

You have to be joking surely?

Go and try it mate.

I face an offie at training and when he chucks them with a Murali action, the ball turns 50% more.

But Murali doesn't chuck it, it's been proven through bio-mechanics.

The only reason Murali "does not chuck" is because of the POWER of subcontinent cricket....
If he was banned, liked he should of been, all hell would have broken loose...
It is an absolute joke that his action could ever be deemed legal...

I hope one day we see an Australian, English, South African, New Zealand off spinner with an action that mirrors Murali's.

I doubt we ever will...

In saying that, I think he his a fantastic person, given what he has been through and the way he conducts himself..
However he chucks.....

[mal]

It a remarkable talent Ive got
I can turn a doosra about 6-12 inches with monotomus regularity
I can bowl off breaks that turn 6-12 inches with regularity
I can also bowl leg breaks than turn 6-24 inches with regularity
I bowl an inswinger that can swing 6-18 inches intermittently

Ive achieved this over 35 years playing cricket
I can still do the spinners in the nets to Bayman and Mighty Tiger

That remarkable talent is that I do all those deliveries with a norMAL legit action

So is it that hard for proffesional cricketers ?

[MightyEagles]

You have to be joking surely?

Go and try it mate.

I face an offie at training and when he chucks them with a Murali action, the ball turns 50% more.

But Murali doesn't chuck it, it's been proven through bio-mechanics.

It has been proven in the nets
But has it been proven on the ground during a test or ODI, I don't think so. I've saw him during that England v Sri Lanka game here at the Adelaide Oval game and it looked to me that he was throwing the ball on the odd occasion.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't wish to participate in a debate about illegal deliveries but I would like to give my point of view, then move on.

My statement "if Murali doesn't throw, nobody does" was made because I regard Murali's action as an abomination and blatantly illegal, even by the modifications brought forward that allow him to play. This is why I don't wish to discuss whether other bowlers chuck or not.

My opinion on Murali's action is shared by a number of Test and one day umpires and match referees who see the futility in calling Murali, even though his action has become even more questionable over time.

In the Laws of Cricket, the definition of a legal delivery does not discriminate by means of the pace at which the ball is bowled. It is either delivered with a legal action, or it is not, so all these arguments about whether a spinner gets more purchase, etc, are superfluous.

Gideon Haigh once quoted Don Bradman as saying the issue of chucking in cricket is a vexed one as two people can watch the same delivery and have diametrically points of view. In my case, I see a blatant chuck, and am genuinely astonished when someone else deems it legal. That's life.

I am intrigued by the latest fashion, especially amongst off spinners of having the over-sized shirt sleeve buttoned at the wrist, a fashion worn with great success by 1960s West Indian quick Charlie Griffith. You can draw your own conclusion to that comment.

The only other comment I will make, I have been saying this for the past few years, and you can mark my words (bookmark this, or whatever), but you can rest assured that once Murali retires, the governing bodies of cricket will suddenly have a clamp down on bowlers with illegal deliveries .. and not before time.

[interested observer]

I don't wish to participate in a debate about illegal deliveries but I would like to give my point of view, then move on.

My statement "if Murali doesn't throw, nobody does" was made because I regard Murali's action as an abomination and blatantly illegal, even by the modifications brought forward that allow him to play. This is why I don't wish to discuss whether other bowlers chuck or not.

My opinion on Murali's action is shared by a number of Test and one day umpires and match referees who see the futility in calling Murali, even though his action has become even more questionable over time.

In the Laws of Cricket, the definition of a legal delivery does not discriminate by means of the pace at which the ball is bowled. It is either delivered with a legal action, or it is not, so all these arguments about whether a spinner gets more purchase, etc, are superfluous.

Gideon Haigh once quoted Don Bradman as saying the issue of chucking in cricket is a vexed one as two people can watch the same delivery and have diametrically points of view. In my case, I see a blatant chuck, and am genuinely astonished when someone else deems it legal. That's life.

I am intrigued by the latest fashion, especially amongst off spinners of having the over-sized shirt sleeve buttoned at the wrist, a fashion worn with great success by 1960s West Indian quick Charlie Griffith. You can draw your own conclusion to that comment.

The only other comment I will make, I have been saying this for the past few years, and you can mark my words (bookmark this, or whatever), but you can rest assured that once Murali retires, the governing bodies of cricket will suddenly have a clamp down on bowlers with illegal deliveries .. and not before time.

The only reason Murali "does not chuck" is because of the POWER of subcontinent cricket....
If he was banned, liked he should of been, all hell would have broken loose...
It is an absolute joke that his action could ever be deemed legal...

I hope one day we see an Australian, English, South African, New Zealand off spinner with an action that mirrors Murali's.

I doubt we ever will...

In saying that, I think he his a fantastic person, given what he has been through and the way he conducts himself..
However he chucks.....

[CoverKing]

Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.

Didnt think you watched t20s Booney??

Unless you watched him in one of his ODI games, which i doubt!

[aceman]

It a remarkable talent Ive got
I can turn a doosra about 6-12 inches with monotomus regularity
I can bowl off breaks that turn 6-12 inches with regularity
I can also bowl leg breaks than turn 6-24 inches with regularity
I bowl an inswinger that can swing 6-18 inches intermittently

Ive achieved this over 35 years playing cricket
I can still do the spinners in the nets to Bayman and Mighty Tiger

That remarkable talent is that I do all those deliveries with a norMAL legit action

So is it that hard for proffesional cricketers ?

Mal, you should go by the username of "Genius", and must be the unluckiest bloke never to have played test cricket

[Dogmatic]

It a remarkable talent Ive got
I can turn a doosra about 6-12 inches with monotomus regularity
I can bowl off breaks that turn 6-12 inches with regularity
I can also bowl leg breaks than turn 6-24 inches with regularity
I bowl an inswinger that can swing 6-18 inches intermittently

Ive achieved this over 35 years playing cricket
I can still do the spinners in the nets to Bayman and Mighty Tiger

That remarkable talent is that I do all those deliveries with a norMAL legit action

So is it that hard for proffesional cricketers ?

He didn't mention the length of the pitch or that he bowls long hops to achieve the turn.

Mal, you should go by the username of "Genius", and must be the unluckiest bloke never to have played test cricket

[Booney]

Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.

Didnt think you watched t20s Booney??

Unless you watched him in one of his ODI games, which i doubt!

Walked in while Junior was watching it mate.

[brod]

Sri Lanka Under-19 offspinner Rushan Jaleel has been reported for an illegal bowling action. Bruce Oxenford and Shahul Hameed, the on-field umpires during Sri Lanka's 2010 U-19 World Cup warm-up match against Hong Kong at Hagley Park in Christchurch, reported the 19-year-old soon after the conclusion of the match. The bowler sent down seven overs, picking up 1 for 49.

[Lightning McQueen]

Sri Lanka Under-19 offspinner Rushan Jaleel has been reported for an illegal bowling action. Bruce Oxenford and Shahul Hameed, the on-field umpires during Sri Lanka's 2010 U-19 World Cup warm-up match against Hong Kong at Hagley Park in Christchurch, reported the 19-year-old soon after the conclusion of the match. The bowler sent down seven overs, picking up 1 for 49.

So it worked.

[Rik E Boy]

Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.

Didnt think you watched t20s Booney??

Unless you watched him in one of his ODI games, which i doubt!

Walked in while Junior was watching it mate.

I tried to take in the NSW v Qld game but I blinked and missed the whole thing.

regards,

REB

[Lightning McQueen]

Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.

Didnt think you watched t20s Booney??

Unless you watched him in one of his ODI games, which i doubt!

Walked in while Junior was watching it mate.

I tried to take in the NSW v Qld game but I blinked and missed the whole thing.

regards,

REB

Ahhh, the N9 game.