T20 S.A. V W.A.

[Lightning McQueen]

Mal I know he came up against a superstar smasher of the ball but Cleary will need to bowl better than he did to keep his spot.

17 per over is CLEARY not good enough, oh no, I'm turning into mal

Bowled better than but stats don't show it haberfield who bowled shite and lucky not to go 20 per over.

They both bowled pooh, it was an extremely small WACA oval though, Haberfield 9 per over and a wicket, Cleary 17 per over no wicket.

[Killa]

Cleary before haberfield and obrien as a second spinner, as spin is handy in this form. Manou should open as he can not slog from word go, and if he can get SA on to a start similar to last night and leave the bigger hitters to latter in the innings.

Well if we only lose 5 wickets he wont have to bat. T20 is about jumping out of the blocks.

T20 not about jumping out of the blocks, its about balancing through the 20 overs as the game is about getting 1, 2, 3 with the odd boundary per over. Manou is better up the top as the ball is coming on as he struggles with the slo stuff and on a big run chase of chasing 170 plus Afidi or cooper should open than.

[Killa]

Mal I know he came up against a superstar smasher of the ball but Cleary will need to bowl better than he did to keep his spot.

17 per over is CLEARY not good enough, oh no, I'm turning into mal

Bowled better than but stats don't show it haberfield who bowled shite and lucky not to go 20 per over.

They both bowled pooh, it was an extremely small WACA oval though, Haberfield 9 per over and a wicket, Cleary 17 per over no wicket.

Agree luckly didn't bowl more in the field restrictions and bowling to a red hot gayle in the first 6 with the field up.

[Lightning McQueen]

Cleary before haberfield and obrien as a second spinner, as spin is handy in this form. Manou should open as he can not slog from word go, and if he can get SA on to a start similar to last night and leave the bigger hitters to latter in the innings.

Well if we only lose 5 wickets he wont have to bat. T20 is about jumping out of the blocks.

T20 not about jumping out of the blocks, its about balancing through the 20 overs as the game is about getting 1, 2, 3 with the odd boundary per over. Manou is better up the top as the ball is coming on as he struggles with the slo stuff and on a big run chase of chasing 170 plus Afidi or cooper should open than.

Have a look at who generally wins, the team that makes the most out of the power-play or the team that plods along and tries to finish in a flurry. Make the most of the hard ball, get the best strikers out there for it IMO.

[mal]

Give me a break
Mark Cleary was our best bowler last year in my opinion
He has resumed from a long injury and may need a game or 2 to get back to his better form
It is no disgrace to be pummeled by the most explosive opening batsman perhaps ever seen
Chris GAYLE has been clobbering our best International bolwers of late

Mark is also a more that useful late order batter

Agree with LMC
Put your most explosive hitters in to open
HARRIS + COOPER are proven openers in this format
AFRIDI is also an option to open

[Lightning McQueen]

Give me a break
Mark Cleary was our best bowler last year in my opinion
He has resumed from a long injury and may need a game or 2 to get back to his better form
It is no disgrace to be pummeled by the most explosive opening batsman perhaps ever seen
Chris GAYLE has been clobbering our best International bolwers of late

Mark is also a more that useful late order batter

Agree with LMC
Put your most explosive hitters in to open
HARRIS + COOPER are proven openers in this format
AFRIDI is also an option to open

Darren Lehmann was our best batsman 3 years ago in my opinion . Let him play district cricket to regain his form, line and length. Cleary will feature prominent in the ODD when he comes good.

[mal]

To further educate you guys
20/20 Batting tactics and line ups

OVERS 1-6
Powerplay, need guys who can loft over the infield and with strike rates of about 125-150
OVERS 7-12
Consolidate, wait for the bad balls, less innovation, more conventional batting
OVERS 13-20
The team that has the most 6 hitters in this period are the sides that can win a game

What did we see yesterday WA V SA

WA batted very well overs 1-6 overs
SA smashed a lot of sixes overs 13-20

What else did I see in the batting
GAYLE superb [as we should expect]
MARSH prob cost WA the game with his s/rate and inability to take on the infield early
RONCHI if he played a 3/4 blinder would have won the game for WA he along with MARSH cost WA the win
COSI/POLLARD/BORGAS/CHRISTIAN are all late order 6 hitters and make SA very dangerous[AFRIDI will be as well]
MANOU if he continues to open will soak up the overs that the 6 hitters need later on
SA has the batting to win this comp and can beat anyone

[whufc]

Cleary has to be in the side IMHO, can bowl and is a very very very handy number 8-9-10 in a T20 match, was only a few years ago he won the t20 player of the tournament in the english county season, definately worth persisiting with.

My team for the t20 against Queensland
1. D.Harris
2. T.Cooper
3. S.Afridi
4. M.Cosgrove
5. C.Borgas (could swap with Pollard depending on how many overs left)
6. K.Pollard
7. D.Christian
8. G.Manou
9. M.Cleary
10. S.Tait
11. P.George / C.Bailey (depending on whether the wicket is going to turn or not)

Personally i think thats a pretty awesome line up which covers every aspect needed, and think the Redbacks are an awesome shot of making the final.

[brod]

Cleary has to be in the side IMHO, can bowl and is a very very very handy number 8-9-10 in a T20 match, was only a few years ago he won the t20 player of the tournament in the english county season, definately worth persisiting with.

My team for the t20 against Queensland
1. D.Harris
2. T.Cooper
3. S.Afridi
4. M.Cosgrove
5. C.Borgas (could swap with Pollard depending on how many overs left)
6. K.Pollard
7. D.Christian
8. G.Manou
9. M.Cleary
10. S.Tait
11. P.George / C.Bailey (depending on whether the wicket is going to turn or not)

Personally i think thats a pretty awesome line up which covers every aspect needed, and think the Redbacks are an awesome shot of making the final.

Cleary could nearly jump ahead of Manou..he is a great striker and there would be no wasteage of balls

[Footy Smart]

Cleary has to be in the side IMHO, can bowl and is a very very very handy number 8-9-10 in a T20 match, was only a few years ago he won the t20 player of the tournament in the english county season, definately worth persisiting with.

My team for the t20 against Queensland
1. D.Harris
2. T.Cooper
3. S.Afridi
4. M.Cosgrove
5. C.Borgas (could swap with Pollard depending on how many overs left)
6. K.Pollard
7. D.Christian
8. G.Manou
9. M.Cleary
10. S.Tait
11. P.George / C.Bailey (depending on whether the wicket is going to turn or not)

Personally i think thats a pretty awesome line up which covers every aspect needed, and think the Redbacks are an awesome shot of making the final.

Bailey is horrific, the amount of full tosses he bowls he would end up over the fence like Heal last night!

Geroge is to up and down for 20/20 Jake is a better option IMO slower balls and can swing it both ways. George would bowl to many length balls IMO

i think the team was correct last night but the order as follows

1. D.Harris
2. T.Cooper
3. M.Cosgrove
4. S.Afridi
5. C.Borgas
6. K.Pollard
7. D.Christian
8. G.Manou
9. M.Cleary
10. S.Tait
11. J Habberfield

The only change i could see is O'Brien for Cleary or Jake, he is a tightish spinner who is better than CB and a handy batsmen the spin option has worked well for some states in the 20/20 or 50 over game. We have plenty of fast/meds and Afridi who is extremely valuable!

Habberfield
Tait
Cleary
Pollard
Christo

[CoverKing]

The SA side IMO should read:

1. Harris
2. Cooper
3. Cosgrove
4. Borgas
5. Christian
6. Pollard
7. Afridi
8. Manou
9. Cleary
10. Tait
11. Haberfield

[mal]

The SA side IMO should read:

1. Harris
2. Cooper
3. Cosgrove
4. Borgas
5. Christian
6. Pollard
7. Afridi
8. Manou
9. Cleary
10. Tait
11. Haberfield

Mate
Can you leave the jokes and the sarcasm to REB , and me please
Afridi at 7
He just happens to be arguably the worlds best middle order basher
And your batting an extraordiary talent like that at seven

[CoverKing]

So hit and miss. I think the form that Cossie and Borgas are in they should be in there for as long as possible.
Christian i rate highly and should be promoted. 6 is the spot for Pollard IMO.

Afridi to face 10 balls an innings would be ideal. Im guessing that would be his average balls faced in t20. Allow it at the end and he would score between 20-30 if not more

[locky801]

So hit and miss.

Guess thats 20/20

[carey]

Cleary before haberfield and obrien as a second spinner, as spin is handy in this form. Manou should open as he can not slog from word go, and if he can get SA on to a start similar to last night and leave the bigger hitters to latter in the innings.

i thought apart from the big 4 for the rest of the bowlers bowled poo!

but a win's a win go you back's

[carey]

also love our options with the batting line up as most have had a go at on here

[spell_check]

By the way, if there was not the international players there, you can bet it would reduce the crowd by a fair portion. And you would see an increase in the 50 overs if they were there.

Definitely mate.. but all the more reason to bring the international stars out to Australia.

International Stars? Afridi for example can't get a spot in his countries Test squad. Pollard can't get a gig in the West Indies Test or One Day squad.

To clarify, Afridi is not going to play Tests until after the next World Cup (for whatever reason).