Can anyone end the Bulldogs dominance ?

[whufc]

I think he just recently signed a new contract for next season did he not Dutchy ?

Not that Im aware of, you might be thinking of Narni Grima, who has signed for 2 years

Yeah, you are right, i am probably thinking of Nathan Grima there, I remember you posting something about it a few months ago when there was speculation that he was going to be delisted by the Roos and then would have potentially had the dilemma of coming back to Adelaide to play for the Dogs again or with his brother Todd at the Bay.[/quote]

That decision would have been made for him this year hey

[Dutchy]

Brothers at the Bay...

[Big Phil]

Brothers at the Bay...

Oh yeah, forgot about Alex

Edited the post accordingly...

Would have been a really interesting decision for Nathan I reckon had he come back to SA, but it wont eventuate for another 2 years at least so not to worry now...

[MST]

How can you end the dominance of a club that is bigger than any other club in the comp.
The dogs will eventually miss out on making a GF which is just reality, but with the structures in place at elizabeth you would think that they would make the finals almost every year thus giving them a good chance to make a GF .
Look back to 06 when we lost some of the best players in the clubs history, we still made the GF. Even though we lost that GF we still got through the year with almost a whole new list of players and a whole heap of injuries.
So the teams dominance may take a dent every now and then but i cant see the clubs dominance ever ending, reallistically it can only get stronger, and if the other 8 clubs dont get a wriggle on they may be left behind.

A lot of Port supporters felt this way about 10 - 15 years ago.

While I don't see the Dogs missing the finals for a few years yet, it will happen eventually... Nothing lasts forever...

True, but ports dominance was destroyed by the power. As soon as the power joined the AFL the magpies were kicked out and sent to a tin shed at ethelton.
The facilities at elizabeth can only get better which is my point.

Lets take a look at the other 9 clubs and how far off they are from CDFC

GLENELG 18s top ressies top so depth wise not to far hopefully pick up a couple of recuits BUT we have a mental problem with CDFC and finals

STURT Further away than we think great effort to get the GF but game was done and dusted by quarter time and Central never got out of second gear

EAGLES Interesting new coach could have easily been in a Prelim Ressies should have won the flag they will be around the mark again

NORTH On the up no doubt but still a long way off

NORWOOD New coach heading in the right direction slow steps however

PORT.WA. SOUTH Long way off will have no impact for a while

So barring injuries or a AFL liecence its not a case of who can win the flag but who will pick it up when the Dogs drop it

I have to strongly disagree with your assessment of Sturt there mate.

I see a tremendous amount of upside to the SFC over the next few years. I think it's fair to say most pundits and supporters would agree, given the amount of youth in the Sturt side, they did indeed do very well to make the GF, particularly after being written off after so many experienced players left/retired at the end of 2008.

Some reasons why the Double Blues WILL be a force in the coming season and beyond:

- The aforementioned fact that Sturt's list, in the main, comprised of a lot of young talent.
- The side made the GF despite having to restructure their leading scoring avenue and without the dominant forward in the competition.
- Our reserves were top or second all season even after coping with losing some very important players mid-year (Thring, Hurley, Farmer, Rischbieth). The side came within a point of the eventual Premiers Glenelg in the 2nd Semi-Final. Sturt reserves won the flag in 2008.
- Our U/18's came within a kick of beating the eventual Premiers Glenelg in the qualifying final. Sturt U/17's won the flag in 2008.
- Sturt were runners up in the Stanley H. Lewis and as such were the second best performed club in the SANFL. Sturt won this award in 2008.

These are not factors one would associate with a club on the way down.......

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.

With the club likely to turn a profit this year for the first time in a long while, and the prospect of some big names to bolster key positions coming to the club in 2010, I can only see Sturt maintaining their place as one of the top two or three clubs in the competition in the medium to long term.

[Dogwatcher]

Seems like you've got some pretty good points there MST.

[JK]

Seems like you've got some pretty good points there MST.

Agreed

[MST]

Cheers DW, although after reading it back, I am now awaiting a smart arse to say 'so you've gone backwards since 2008' with both the reserves and U/18 sides going from first to second.

That being said, it's mighty hard to go back to back in those grades with the amount of player turnover etc.

Our league side have gone from 5th in 2007, to 3rd in 2008, to 2nd this year.......I am liking the pattern that's emerging

[Dogwatcher]

Sturt have plenty of young promise and if it's not raped by the draft, then things look promising for next year.
The fact Kurtze was dropped during the finals shows there is plenty of depth and that Norman isn't afraid of making the tough decision (although that is balanced by the fact he allowed both Thurstans and Chambers to play in the GF).
If Thurstans plays on, that will be a huge asset.
Sheedy is still damned good and some selective recruiting around him will see some improvement.

[Dutchy]

Spoke with a Sturt ressies player last night and they were shattered that the Bays went onto win the flag after they got so close in the Semi and probably would have won with another minute on the clock...

[am Bays]

Spoke with a Sturt ressies player last night and they were shattered that the Bays went onto win the flag after they got so close in the Semi and probably would have won with another minute on the clock...

You should have told them that they were lucky to get that close as our bad kicking kept them in it. Their club got their reward from us a week later...

We should've won that game by 5 goals easing up same as the preliminary final in the 1s. Fortunately our problem is easily identified - were are looking at more than just the accuracy as it is more simple than that , which is why I think we'll be around the mark next year.

MST I think you make some good points about Sturt which is why I think it will be a race in 3 again.

Watch for the Eagles in 2011 when Godsy has them playing his way. Very very good coach.

[westcoastpanther]

Fortunately our problem is easily identified .

I seem to recall a similar quote and confidence from you after the 2nd semi loss to Centrals mate, identifying problems and correcting them are two different things......

[birdmanptr]

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.

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Thats ok i did not say i was correct just my thoughts

and i did do research and thats what i came up with sorry i disagree with you so next time i have a opinion ill check with you first if you disagree with it i wont put it on

[MST]

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.

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Thats ok i did not say i was correct just my thoughts

and i did do research and thats what i came up with sorry i disagree with you so next time i have a opinion ill check with you first if you disagree with it i wont put it on

It's generally accepted on here and in society in general that if you are going to offer an opinion, you will be given more respect, whether it's agreed with or not, if you give some points to back up your statement(s)....

You are of course entitled to your opinion birdman, just be prepared to have it shot down if there are no facts or figures to back it up.

Can you please enlighten me as to what 'research' you undertook?

Play on.

[birdmanptr]

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.

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Thats ok i did not say i was correct just my thoughts

and i did do research and thats what i came up with sorry i disagree with you so next time i have a opinion ill check with you first if you disagree with it i wont put it on

It's generally accepted on here and in society in general that if you are going to offer an opinion, you will be given more respect, whether it's agreed with or not, if you give some points to back up your statement(s)....

You are of course entitled to your opinion birdman, just be prepared to have it shot down if there are no facts or figures to back it up.

Can you please enlighten me as to what 'research' you undertook?

Play on.

Well i had a look at your list made my assesments on what i thought and came to my conclusion that you wont be as high in 2010 as you were in 2009.Like i said its my thoughts and opinions and you cant produce facts on things that MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPENhell you could go through 2010 unbeaten its not just what you do it also involves what others may or may not do

Just a bit suprized i have not been tackled for saying in 2010 No team can win the flag but Central can lose it

[MST]

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.

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Thats ok i did not say i was correct just my thoughts

and i did do research and thats what i came up with sorry i disagree with you so next time i have a opinion ill check with you first if you disagree with it i wont put it on

It's generally accepted on here and in society in general that if you are going to offer an opinion, you will be given more respect, whether it's agreed with or not, if you give some points to back up your statement(s)....

You are of course entitled to your opinion birdman, just be prepared to have it shot down if there are no facts or figures to back it up.

Can you please enlighten me as to what 'research' you undertook?

Play on.

Well i had a look at your list made my assesments on what i thought and came to my conclusion that you wont be as high in 2010 as you were in 2009.Like i said its my thoughts and opinions and you cant produce facts on things that MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPENhell you could go through 2010 unbeaten its not just what you do it also involves what others may or may not do

Just a bit suprized i have not been tackled for saying in 2010 No team can win the flag but Central can lose it

Without getting in an argument with you fella, you are probably going to need to look a little deeper than just at the current list to gauge how well or otherwise a club is going to go the following year. On that point though, Sturt had a list that was good enough to finish in the top three, with the best percentage in the league and then win two finals against quality opposition to make a GF....Not a bad list I would have thought?

Getting back to your initial point though, the list will undergo some changes (both additions and losses) and mostly for the better I might add.

I think I've made my point (and backed it up with some analysis and fact).

[Hazydog]

For what it is worth I think that judging a Club's potential/depth by the results of Reserves and u/18's is questionable.

Clubs have different agendas when it comes to the value of player development vs results in the lower grades.

Centrals historically have performed poorly in lower grades over recent years which further re-inforces the point.

It would be interesting to see how many 50 + game league players are produced from each club's u18's team this year. Time will tell but I suspect it wont be that different regardless of whether the team finished top or bottom.

[CENTURION]

Cheers DW, although after reading it back, I am now awaiting a smart arse to say 'so you've gone backwards since 2008' with both the reserves and U/18 sides going from first to second.

That being said, it's mighty hard to go back to back in those grades with the amount of player turnover etc.

Our league side have gone from 5th in 2007, to 3rd in 2008, to 2nd this year.......I am liking the pattern that's emerging

looks like North's pattern & we all know where that ended up!

[birdmanptr]

I think you need to do a little more research before you start sprouting opinions on here.



It's generally accepted on here and in society in general that if you are going to offer an opinion, you will be given more respect, whether it's agreed with or not, if you give some points to back up your statement(s)....

You are of course entitled to your opinion birdman, just be prepared to have it shot down if there are no facts or figures to back it up.

Can you please enlighten me as to what 'research' you undertook?

Play on.

Well i had a look at your list made my assesments on what i thought and came to my conclusion that you wont be as high in 2010 as you were in 2009.Like i said its my thoughts and opinions and you cant produce facts on things that MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPENhell you could go through 2010 unbeaten its not just what you do it also involves what others may or may not do

Just a bit suprized i have not been tackled for saying in 2010 No team can win the flag but Central can lose it

Without getting in an argument with you fella, you are probably going to need to look a little deeper than just at the current list to gauge how well or otherwise a club is going to go the following year. On that point though, Sturt had a list that was good enough to finish in the top three, with the best percentage in the league and then win two finals against quality opposition to make a GF....Not a bad list I would have thought?

Getting back to your initial point though, the list will undergo some changes (both additions and losses) and mostly for the better I might add.

I think I've made my point (and backed it up with some analysis and fact).

[/quote]

No argument here i have not had a go at you for your opinions and i wont you make some good points although the scoreboard flattered your Ressies and we were running on empty with injuries and a revolving blood rule door.Plus the reserves grade is pretty tight so players taking the next step will apply to 6-7 clubs. You are assuming that teams below the Eagles in 2009 will be struggling again and if that is the case then you will be top 3 but improvement from them will see you guys struggle a bit as will it us down at the Bay.

I never judge a team or teams on how they finish one year as come round one 2010 we are all 0-0.

[Dog_ger]

I didn't read every post and am sorry if I repeat someones' post.

I believe "The Woodville Football Club" was invented to stop the "Port Adelaide Football Club" from being so dominant in SANFL.

It didn't work.

We all know what happened when the "Port Adelaide Football Club" entered the Afl....

So lets send Central Districts to the Afl.....

[caster Troy]

i believe the bulldogs dominance will continue for at least another couple of years yet.my personal opinion is that when a handfull of the older players retire they will dip down a bit but not as to finish bottom.....they are too good a club to slip that far down....all good runs come to an end at some point as much as they dog supporters whan it to go forever,i would be thinking the same if i was in their shoes!