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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Hawks22 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:55 pm

catchisthecry wrote:
Jimdog wrote:Whats Scott Dutsche got to do to prove himself?
Get another premership medal I suppose.


Get a kick?


Well I guess Dutsche will be getting a few more kicks on Sunday than those 5 Glenelg players that got select :oops:
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:22 pm

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birdmanptr wrote:The coach of the year is the coach that gets the flag no question about that.However Laird got Centrals into another finals series another GF.So if it has to be done before the GF Laird wins it for mine


As stated above, the coaches vote on it themselves! Nothing to do with where they finish.


I am saying it should be changed


why should it be?

this team is based on performances from the minor round so that all players are judged fairly - why should the coach be selected any differently?
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby birdmanptr » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:37 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
birdmanptr wrote:
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birdmanptr wrote:The coach of the year is the coach that gets the flag no question about that.However Laird got Centrals into another finals series another GF.So if it has to be done before the GF Laird wins it for mine


As stated above, the coaches vote on it themselves! Nothing to do with where they finish.


I am saying it should be changed


why should it be?

this team is based on performances from the minor round so that all players are judged fairly - why should the coach be selected any differently?


Because thats what i think not saying it is correct just my view
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby doggies4eva » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:15 pm

Anyone who doesn't realize that Roy Laird is the best coach in SA know nothing about coaching.
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby cje » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:30 pm

how can mickan be coach?
to me it is obvious roy coach of the decade norman coach of the year as it is his first season were did the sturt supporters honestly think they finish at end of minor round prior to the season starting the sturt supporters i no said they wouldnt make finals how wrong were they mickan is a joke we played 2 finals he was clearly out coached in both finals to me there is no point in winning all those games for no result
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Big Phil » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:42 pm

cje wrote:how can mickan be coach?
to me it is obvious roy coach of the decade norman coach of the year as it is his first season were did the sturt supporters honestly think they finish at end of minor round prior to the season starting the sturt supporters i no said they wouldnt make finals how wrong were they mickan is a joke we played 2 finals he was clearly out coached in both finals to me there is no point in winning all those games for no result


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I think you may be the only Bays fan to have this kind of feeling there mate...

Mark Mickan didn't make the players kick innaccurately during the finals, which is what essentially cost the Bays a chance at the flag...
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby doggies4eva » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:48 pm

Big Phil wrote:
cje wrote:how can mickan be coach?
to me it is obvious roy coach of the decade norman coach of the year as it is his first season were did the sturt supporters honestly think they finish at end of minor round prior to the season starting the sturt supporters i no said they wouldnt make finals how wrong were they mickan is a joke we played 2 finals he was clearly out coached in both finals to me there is no point in winning all those games for no result


:shock:

I think you may be the only Bays fan to have this kind of feeling there mate...

Mark Mickan didn't make the players kick innaccurately during the finals, which is what essentially cost the Bays a chance at the flag...


No but my feeling is the Bays peaked too early.
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby cje » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:52 pm

what i am saying is it is a joke that he is coach of the year
why wouldnt you man up on gowans in 2nd semi?
why would you drag the most dominant player in the last 1/4 in prelim (sellar)
the more i think about the angrier i get he has nfi when it comes to finals
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby locky801 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:10 pm

doggies4eva wrote:Anyone who doesn't realize that Roy Laird is the best coach in SA know nothing about coaching.



as much as i would like to disagree i cant, he has proven that over many years 8)
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby birdmanptr » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:42 pm

Big Phil wrote:
cje wrote:how can mickan be coach?
to me it is obvious roy coach of the decade norman coach of the year as it is his first season were did the sturt supporters honestly think they finish at end of minor round prior to the season starting the sturt supporters i no said they wouldnt make finals how wrong were they mickan is a joke we played 2 finals he was clearly out coached in both finals to me there is no point in winning all those games for no result


:shock:

I think you may be the only Bays fan to have this kind of feeling there mate...

Mark Mickan didn't make the players kick innaccurately during the finals, which is what essentially cost the Bays a chance at the flag...


No hes not on his own Mickan has done a good job BUT Laird has got the Dogs not only into the finals but 2nd spot Mickam aint the first good minor round coach to come unstuck in finals Halbert,Campbell Nunan
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:06 pm

Whilst agreeing that Laird is by far and away the best coach going around for years, the Advertiser Team of the Year is judged on Minor Round Performances. If all 22 (don't get me started on that number) players are judged on their minor round performance why shouldn't the coach?
If you're going to take into account the finals you might as well as just have the Central District Footy Club, we all know that!
This award is so us fans of lower teams can get some small bit of enjoyment from seeing our players selected, let us at least have that Dogs fans! :)
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby locky801 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:27 pm

Spose you have a good point there Wedgie but we all know that from around Round 15 once Centrals know they will make the finals, they "Tank" to a degree. I would put that down to smart coaching, Laird knows what is required for September/October, thing is if they lose this week surely Norman should be Coach of the year because of what he has done through the home and away season and the finals
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby doggies4eva » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:09 pm

locky801 wrote:Spose you have a good point there Wedgie but we all know that from around Round 15 once Centrals know they will make the finals, they "Tank" to a degree. I would put that down to smart coaching, Laird knows what is required for September/October, thing is if they lose this week surely Norman should be Coach of the year because of what he has done through the home and away season and the finals


Fair point locky. Wedgie based on your criteria the best coach will always be the coach of the team that finishes minor premiers. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion - maybe a coach that takes a side from low to top 3 say is better or as locky points out someone like Laird who is prepared to risk minor round losses in order to peak first week in October.
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby spell_check » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:21 pm

It's four interchange because that's what the state team has.
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby birdmanptr » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:40 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
locky801 wrote:Spose you have a good point there Wedgie but we all know that from around Round 15 once Centrals know they will make the finals, they "Tank" to a degree. I would put that down to smart coaching, Laird knows what is required for September/October, thing is if they lose this week surely Norman should be Coach of the year because of what he has done through the home and away season and the finals


Fair point locky. Wedgie based on your criteria the best coach will always be the coach of the team that finishes minor premiers. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion - maybe a coach that takes a side from low to top 3 say is better or as locky points out someone like Laird who is prepared to risk minor round losses in order to peak first week in October.


There are to many grey areas so to take them out and make it simple coach of the year is the premiership coach
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:05 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
locky801 wrote:Spose you have a good point there Wedgie but we all know that from around Round 15 once Centrals know they will make the finals, they "Tank" to a degree. I would put that down to smart coaching, Laird knows what is required for September/October, thing is if they lose this week surely Norman should be Coach of the year because of what he has done through the home and away season and the finals


Fair point locky. Wedgie based on your criteria the best coach will always be the coach of the team that finishes minor premiers. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion - maybe a coach that takes a side from low to top 3 say is better or as locky points out someone like Laird who is prepared to risk minor round losses in order to peak first week in October.

How do you work that out? Its the coaches that choose him, not me. :?
If next year someone took Central to Minor Premiers and some new coach took South to 2nd who only miss out on the minor premiership by % then its a no brainer that the South coach gets it. (IMHO)
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby am Bays » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:15 pm

Hawks22 wrote:
catchisthecry wrote:
Jimdog wrote:Whats Scott Dutsche got to do to prove himself?
Get another premership medal I suppose.


Get a kick?


Well I guess Dutsche will be getting a few more kicks on Sunday than those 5 Glenelg players that got select :oops:


And I've got no doubt the five Glenelg players and coach would swap their selections if they could still be playing this Sunday.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby doggies4eva » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:02 pm

Wedgie wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:
locky801 wrote:Spose you have a good point there Wedgie but we all know that from around Round 15 once Centrals know they will make the finals, they "Tank" to a degree. I would put that down to smart coaching, Laird knows what is required for September/October, thing is if they lose this week surely Norman should be Coach of the year because of what he has done through the home and away season and the finals


Fair point locky. Wedgie based on your criteria the best coach will always be the coach of the team that finishes minor premiers. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion - maybe a coach that takes a side from low to top 3 say is better or as locky points out someone like Laird who is prepared to risk minor round losses in order to peak first week in October.

How do you work that out? Its the coaches that choose him, not me. :?
If next year someone took Central to Minor Premiers and some new coach took South to 2nd who only miss out on the minor premiership by % then its a no brainer that the South coach gets it. (IMHO)


So the other coaches don't realize that Laird is the best coach? No wonder we keep winning finals :lol:
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Wedgie » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:45 am

doggies4eva wrote:
So the other coaches don't realize that Laird is the best coach? No wonder we keep winning finals :lol:

They judge who is the best coach over the minor round just like the best players of the minor round are judged, when its as close as you will get to all concerned being on equal footing. Its not that hard to comprehend is it?
Anyway, there's no longer any ex North players coaching so you can't blame us if you think they get it wrong! ;)
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Re: 2009 SANFL Advertiser Team of The Year

Postby Hawks22 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:45 am

Wedgie wrote:Whilst agreeing that Laird is by far and away the best coach going around for years, the Advertiser Team of the Year is judged on Minor Round Performances. If all 22 (don't get me started on that number) players are judged on their minor round performance why shouldn't the coach?
If you're going to take into account the finals you might as well as just have the Central District Footy Club, we all know that!
This award is so us fans of lower teams can get some small bit of enjoyment from seeing our players selected, let us at least have that Dogs fans! :)



No !!!!! :lol:

What is more important to a football clubs and supporters .... Minor Round Premierships or winning a GF ? To me it's a GF so why not select the team after the GF and not have a B grade (or 2nd place) award :shock: (IMHO)
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