Round 23

[Mickyj]

Do the SANFL employees know there is a round 23 the guy on the gate at the bay yesterday was so confused he didnt think there was a round 23 !!

[drebin]

Do the SANFL employees know there is a round 23 the guy on the gate at the bay yesterday was so confused he didnt think there was a round 23 !!

Remember the same organisation produces the budget and look how that has gone to the shitter! Let's face it the SANFL Hierachy only really care about the AFL side of things so are you really surprised?

[doggies4eva]

Do the SANFL employees know there is a round 23 the guy on the gate at the bay yesterday was so confused he didnt think there was a round 23 !!

Remember the same organisation produces the budget and look how that has gone to the shitter! Let's face it the SANFL Hierachy only really care about the AFL side of things so are you really surprised?

There may not be for him - if he only works the Glenelg Oval - as Glenelg play their last game away.

[am Bays]

Do the SANFL employees know there is a round 23 the guy on the gate at the bay yesterday was so confused he didnt think there was a round 23 !!

He was there specifically for the Eagles supporters....

[Wedgie]

This weekend is the only time AFL play finals on Sundays, hence why SANFL play finals on Sundays

Yeah but the next 2 weeks of AFL finals after this weekend are played at nights making the need for Sunday SANFL finals irrelevent on those weeks.
The only time there should be any consideration for a Sunday final is for the Prelim but even then it'd be better on a Friday night.
First 2 weeks of SANFL finals should be on Saturday arvos, the Prelim on Friday and the GF on a Saturday rightfully leaving us the Sunday to watch Bathurst!

[Thiele]

Every game is played on Saturday except for WEST VS GLENELG which is being played on Sunday. What a joke.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/

[Dutchy]

This weekend is the only time AFL play finals on Sundays, hence why SANFL play finals on Sundays

Yeah but the next 2 weeks of AFL finals after this weekend are played at nights making the need for Sunday SANFL finals irrelevent on those weeks.
The only time there should be any consideration for a Sunday final is for the Prelim but even then it'd be better on a Friday night.
First 2 weeks of SANFL finals should be on Saturday arvos, the Prelim on Friday and the GF on a Saturday rightfully leaving us the Sunday to watch Bathurst!

not always, been plenty of Sat arvo finals in the AFL over weeks 2 & 3 recently, Roos/Port WCE/Adelaide are 2 examples

[Wedgie]

This weekend is the only time AFL play finals on Sundays, hence why SANFL play finals on Sundays

Yeah but the next 2 weeks of AFL finals after this weekend are played at nights making the need for Sunday SANFL finals irrelevent on those weeks.
The only time there should be any consideration for a Sunday final is for the Prelim but even then it'd be better on a Friday night.
First 2 weeks of SANFL finals should be on Saturday arvos, the Prelim on Friday and the GF on a Saturday rightfully leaving us the Sunday to watch Bathurst!

not always, been plenty of Sat arvo finals in the AFL over weeks 2 & 3 recently, Roos/Port WCE/Adelaide are 2 examples

That was before the new TV rights, isn't applicable any more, night finals in week 2 and 3, check out last year's games.
Your point and the SANFL's draw was relevent for years gone by but not anymore. Even if it did, what if Geelong were playing Western Bulldogs on the Saturday afternoon, it didn't impact on the SANFL moving 2 games to Saturday afternoon this week, why would it any other week?
Fair enough if the Crows are playing on a Saturday afternoon but it only used to be a 1 in 8 chance, now its even less if anything at all.

[Bluedemon]

i wonder if they will now play a triple header on saturday at alberton as the 18's were originally planned for saturday at 12pm.

[sjt]

Every game is played on Saturday except for WEST VS GLENELG which is being played on Sunday. What a joke.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/

Why did they move the games (other than Glenelg v West) ? Why not leave them on Sunday ? The Crows are Friday night. I don't think it will matter anyway, probably, but Glenelg will have the advantage of knowing if they definitively need to win Sunday to hold top spot. If Central lose, it would mean players can be rested etc. Who made the decision, Chandler (not the one from "Friends")?

[MightyEagles]

i wonder if they will now play a triple header on saturday at alberton as the 18's were originally planned for saturday at 12pm.

Not according to the SANFL website, it's 11.15 at house bros. oval.

[Pseudo]

Every game is played on Saturday except for WEST VS GLENELG which is being played on Sunday. What a joke.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/

Why did they move the games (other than Glenelg v West) ? Why not leave them on Sunday ?

Presumably Glenelg v West stayed put 'coz the ABC had already programmed the Sunday slot for a SANFL telecast.

Fair comment though, why not leave all the games as they were? Players and fans alike would have already made plans for this weekend.

[sjt]

With the crows final now being on a friday night, will the last round of the sanfl be played on a Saturday or a Sunday i wonder.

Cutterman wrote

If the game change you're talking about is from Sunday to Sat then I thought it'd be obvious of the previous possible clash with a Crows home final on Sat day/night.

Tells us more of the obvious Cutterman, gold!

[sjt]

Doesn't bother me as the Eagles have the week off and can watch North and whoever fight each other in a very tough game.

north play south @ prospect & i believe north will be resting a few blokes

Bayman agrees (musn't have played footy himself, according to Dedja).

[sjt]

Every game is played on Saturday except for WEST VS GLENELG which is being played on Sunday. What a joke.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/

Agreed.

[dedja]

Doesn't bother me as the Eagles have the week off and can watch North and whoever fight each other in a very tough game.

north play south @ prospect & i believe north will be resting a few blokes

Bayman agrees (musn't have played footy himself, according to Dedja).

LOL, not comparing apples with apples and you know it!

[sjt]

Doesn't bother me as the Eagles have the week off and can watch North and whoever fight each other in a very tough game.

north play south @ prospect & i believe north will be resting a few blokes

Bayman agrees (musn't have played footy himself, according to Dedja).

LOL, not comparing apples with apples and you know it!

sjt wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:
Glenelg were always going to get the 1st week of finals off so if they played sat or sun didn't matter. Can someone explain this better than I can?

SJT
An even more obvious way to explain it is. What if the scenario were: Westies were still even with North on points, just out of the five. It would be unfair for North, now knowing Glenelg don't need to win (nothing to play for) and Westies were playing for a spot in the five to knock them out. Noone need explain it better than this, it's obvious.

Dedja wrote
What's really obvious is that you've never played football yourself. When a player is going for the ball, does he think ... hmmm, do we need to win this game to earn a particular spot on the premiership table? Well, if we do, I'll go in hard for the ball, if not, then I'll dance around and let someone else get it because I don't want to hurt myself before next week.

Please, give us a break!

SJT wrote
What I also wrote was the dynamics of a game, (mentioning selection etc,) can change when there's nothing hingeing on the result.
Those apples look pretty similiar to me. (Sorry about the poor editing.)

[dedja]

Nice try!

My points are:

- Regardless of whether the fixture should have been changed for R23 (on that point I agree, there's no valid reason to change), the fact that it should have and has no bearing on how Central or Glenelg approach this week's games.

- Central were expected to win today and they didn't. If they did then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

- I'm saying that once a player crosses the line, he will give his all regardless. If the coach rests players then this doesn't change the commitment of the players that are selected.

- North's situation is nothing like Glenelg's, so don't rope Bayman into the argument!

- I never said Glenelg were certainties to keep top spot, only that it would be no shock to Central if they ended up playing in the qualifying final.

[sjt]

My points are in italics, its easier that way.

Nice try!

My points are:

- Regardless of whether the fixture should have been changed for R23 (on that point I agree, there's no valid reason to change), the fact that it should have and has no bearing on how Central or Glenelg approach this week's games.

This we must agree to disagree on. As previously posted, I believe if the result of other games are known resulting in another game having no real meaning, the dynamics of a game can change. This includes players been rested, interchanged, testing game plans to name a few variables. If roles were reversed and Central were guaranteed top spot and playing tomorrow, I believe the dynamics of the game would change. An example might be you may rest schelly towards the end of a game, due general soreness. I would have thought this was all obvious stuff in footy

- Central were expected to win today and they didn't. If they did then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Yes we would because then the Bays would know to retain top spot they [b]must [b win tomorrow. In any case it doesn't detract from the debate, because as mentioned previously I'm referring to every season, not just in this instance.

- I'm saying that once a player crosses the line, he will give his all regardless. If the coach rests players then this doesn't change the commitment of the players that are selected.

I never disagreed with this (in fact I agreed with you). Commitment isn't the question - experience and ability is

- North's situation is nothing like Glenelg's, so don't rope Bayman into the argument!

It's a very pertinent point. It's what the whole discussion has been about. Bayman states North in his opinion may rest players as there's nothing really on the line for them. I presume he believes it's more advantageous for North to rest players than to play them, and risk injury. That's not to say as you have stated that the players that come in won't be giving 100% in an attempt to play next week.

- I never said Glenelg were certainties to keep top spot, only that it would be no shock to Central if they ended up playing in the qualifying final.

Well, this we agree on

[dedja]

Fair enough, but I'm telling you straight out, the same 21 would have been selected for the Bays tomorrow regardless, they will try to win regardless, and every player will be going full pelt to keep their spot in the side for the finals regardless.

Whether another club would do that is up for debate.

I think our point of difference is that I'm specifically relating to the Glenelg side for tomorrow's game and the current environment around Glenelg's lead up to this year's finals, whilst I think you're looking at it from a generic point of view. That's why I believe North's situation is different from the Bays. They don't have half the reserves side knocking down the door to get a league game at the moment, the Bays are in the fortunate position that they have significant depth at the club.

Anyway, it's all academic ... after all that watch the Bays lose tomorrow!