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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby roo32 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:39 pm

s m skinner wrote:WOW i dont believe i have given anything away in my posts , all i have said is my opinion and that doesnt count for much in this instance . LF and Damien you make good points , some umpires are right onto it and thier are others that are not . It is not easy to make a split second decision on weather to send a player off or report him , the player who has been hit often milks the free kick for all its worth and if you act too hastily you could penalise the offending player for something not as serious as first thought . I usually find that during a game if both umpires have a good control of it then the players act accordingly , but unfortunately i think their are people who are umpiring A grade and shouldnt be , not because they want to but because their isnt enough umpires to go round . If we get better people to umpire then it makes the situation better , if all clubs got one person who has retired to take it up then you wouldnt have to put up with these guys .


Yeah well said, have to agree with what is said here. I think that some of the best umpires that I have seen all year have come from guys who have been ex players. I know that Glazbrook, Robbo & Cratey who have been doing a few games this year have been awesome, they have the respect from the players & the game seems to flow alot better.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby cuzzy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:48 pm

roo32 wrote:
s m skinner wrote:WOW i dont believe i have given anything away in my posts , all i have said is my opinion and that doesnt count for much in this instance . LF and Damien you make good points , some umpires are right onto it and thier are others that are not . It is not easy to make a split second decision on weather to send a player off or report him , the player who has been hit often milks the free kick for all its worth and if you act too hastily you could penalise the offending player for something not as serious as first thought . I usually find that during a game if both umpires have a good control of it then the players act accordingly , but unfortunately i think their are people who are umpiring A grade and shouldnt be , not because they want to but because their isnt enough umpires to go round . If we get better people to umpire then it makes the situation better , if all clubs got one person who has retired to take it up then you wouldnt have to put up with these guys .


Yeah well said, have to agree with what is said here. I think that some of the best umpires that I have seen all year have come from guys who have been ex players. I know that Glazbrook, Robbo & Cratey who have been doing a few games this year have been awesome, they have the respect from the players & the game seems to flow alot better.


we had cratey on the weekend and although he gave a dodgy free kick agaisnt me overall thought he was pretty good. the blokes that are good are the ones who dont argue back with you becasuse once they do that you feel like cracking them. Cratey has a bit of a joke and then gets on with it.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby cuzzy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:49 pm

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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby s m skinner » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:00 pm

stupid post skimmer , if you talk to hte umpires you would know what i am talking about . I make no secrets to who i am and they at the umpiring panel know what i do , just like playing if you cant take critisism then dont play . All you people sit nad winge about hte umpires but none of you di anytihng to help the cause .
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby cuzzy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:03 pm

s m skinner wrote:stupid post skimmer , if you talk to hte umpires you would know what i am talking about . I make no secrets to who i am and they at the umpiring panel know what i do , just like playing if you cant take critisism then dont play . All you people sit nad winge about hte umpires but none of you di anytihng to help the cause .


ill vouch for you mate, i have heard several reports this year from both SFL and GSFL players that you are the best umpire they have had. I have also heard you are pretty decent umpire of the the old Basketball. The question is what do you enjoy more coaching or umpiring?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:05 pm

I wont be putting anything on youtube Damien, but i am sure it will make its way on there. I think SM Skinner is qualified skimmer box because he is a very good umpire. Just shows that people that have played the game have the best understanding of the rules and the interpretaions of the rules. How do we recruit more ex players to do the job? Until then its ok to complain but we havent got other options.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby tatts » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:35 pm

roo32 wrote:
s m skinner wrote:WOW i dont believe i have given anything away in my posts , all i have said is my opinion and that doesnt count for much in this instance . LF and Damien you make good points , some umpires are right onto it and thier are others that are not . It is not easy to make a split second decision on weather to send a player off or report him , the player who has been hit often milks the free kick for all its worth and if you act too hastily you could penalise the offending player for something not as serious as first thought . I usually find that during a game if both umpires have a good control of it then the players act accordingly , but unfortunately i think their are people who are umpiring A grade and shouldnt be , not because they want to but because their isnt enough umpires to go round . If we get better people to umpire then it makes the situation better , if all clubs got one person who has retired to take it up then you wouldnt have to put up with these guys .


Yeah well said, have to agree with what is said here. I think that some of the best umpires that I have seen all year have come from guys who have been ex players. I know that Glazbrook, Robbo & Cratey who have been doing a few games this year have been awesome, they have the respect from the players & the game seems to flow alot better.


would have to agree with these 3 umpires.They have done a few of our games and have been good.They all have played the game and Robinson and Glazbrook played not that ling ago which is why they get along well with the players and have their respect
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby jingles » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:04 pm

I can't believe the amount of guys on here that are hanging a bloke for something that they didn't even see!

D&W who was there at Strath on Saturday & apparently saw what happened said there was a "sly" punch in or under the pack that lead to the incident.

I'm in no way condoning what happened, the fact is I didn't see it and therfore I'm not going to make an ill informed comment. Just like the Creek matter that happened at Goolwa, I wasn't there so how can I comment on the penalty that should be handed out, that is just mind blowingly stupid.

I've had a bustered jaw before, and it's not much fun, and I do hope the Strath bloke is feeling as good as he can. But it would be interesting to get his side of the story.

In relation to Genna, he is one of my best mates, and I've played alot of footy with him. He's played at the highest level and in a few different leagues, and to my knowledge has never been reported, let alone suspended. He is no doubt one of the hardest players in the GSFL but there is no way that he is a dirty player!!!

This site/forum is a great way for people to air their own views and opinions, and sometimes it's even interesting, but to use it to bag, or hang blokes without even knowing or seeing what happened is out of line and just not on in my opinion.

Surely there are precidents for the tribunal to refer to, and to say/comment that because of what has happened to Willunga players in the past at the tribunal, that this time the penalty should be more, or they should make an example of him, is an absolutely stupid and a narrow minded view. The tribunal should look at each case on thier own merits, case by case, and if there is a precident, then refer to it.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Gingernuts » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:39 pm

jingles wrote:I can't believe the amount of guys on here that are hanging a bloke for something that they didn't even see!

D&W who was there at Strath on Saturday & apparently saw what happened said there was a "sly" punch in or under the pack that lead to the incident.

I'm in no way condoning what happened, the fact is I didn't see it and therfore I'm not going to make an ill informed comment. Just like the Creek matter that happened at Goolwa, I wasn't there so how can I comment on the penalty that should be handed out, that is just mind blowingly stupid.

I've had a bustered jaw before, and it's not much fun, and I do hope the Strath bloke is feeling as good as he can. But it would be interesting to get his side of the story.

In relation to Genna, he is one of my best mates, and I've played alot of footy with him. He's played at the highest level and in a few different leagues, and to my knowledge has never been reported, let alone suspended. He is no doubt one of the hardest players in the GSFL but there is no way that he is a dirty player!!!

This site/forum is a great way for people to air their own views and opinions, and sometimes it's even interesting, but to use it to bag, or hang blokes without even knowing or seeing what happened is out of line and just not on in my opinion.

Surely there are precidents for the tribunal to refer to, and to say/comment that because of what has happened to Willunga players in the past at the tribunal, that this time the penalty should be more, or they should make an example of him, is an absolutely stupid and a narrow minded view. The tribunal should look at each case on thier own merits, case by case, and if there is a precident, then refer to it.


Fair call Jingles, I think the issue has been aired enough on here probably, might be time to leave it to the tribunal.

In fairness though, on reviewing the posts here I think the only people suggesting how many matches etc are people that did see the incident.

All other comments have been more expressing dissapointment in general at the GSFL's reluctance to deal with incidents appropriately in the past rather than reflecting on this incident directly.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Deemu » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:02 pm

Lets get 1 thing straight. I hate thuggery in football. Full stop! I've posted on the SFL forum regarding my disgust toward this topic.
Yet going by the posts i've read, none of the officiating umpires witnessed the incident? therefore, how can the tribunal conclude a decision from no credible eyewitnesses? In no way am i saying he should get off, but who makes the call must have grounds to go on other than the injury. Correct me if i'm wrong please.
I know Genna's and rate him a good bloke who obviously had a brain snap.... i'm assuming none of you baggers and poo hangers have never thrown a punch in ur life... be it on the field or not, or intoxicated or not (there is no difference, Violence is Violence). So think about it and pull ur head in if so. It's a bit rich if u have.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby dodgingandweaving » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:29 pm

jingles wrote:I can't believe the amount of guys on here that are hanging a bloke for something that they didn't even see!

D&W who was there at Strath on Saturday & apparently saw what happened said there was a "sly" punch in or under the pack that lead to the incident.

I'm in no way condoning what happened, the fact is I didn't see it and therfore I'm not going to make an ill informed comment. Just like the Creek matter that happened at Goolwa, I wasn't there so how can I comment on the penalty that should be handed out, that is just mind blowingly stupid.

I've had a bustered jaw before, and it's not much fun, and I do hope the Strath bloke is feeling as good as he can. But it would be interesting to get his side of the story.

In relation to Genna, he is one of my best mates, and I've played alot of footy with him. He's played at the highest level and in a few different leagues, and to my knowledge has never been reported, let alone suspended. He is no doubt one of the hardest players in the GSFL but there is no way that he is a dirty player!!!

This site/forum is a great way for people to air their own views and opinions, and sometimes it's even interesting, but to use it to bag, or hang blokes without even knowing or seeing what happened is out of line and just not on in my opinion.

Surely there are precidents for the tribunal to refer to, and to say/comment that because of what has happened to Willunga players in the past at the tribunal, that this time the penalty should be more, or they should make an example of him, is an absolutely stupid and a narrow minded view. The tribunal should look at each case on thier own merits, case by case, and if there is a precident, then refer to it.



There was NO (N.O.) sly punch under the pack. Nothing, zilch. Nothing that warranted a punch in the face. My previous post regarding the incident was typo. There was nothing untoward, the ball was miles away, all players eyes were on the next contest, even the bloke who got clokced. Genvese was the only one with different intentions.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby dodgingandweaving » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:34 pm

I'm not here to hang the guy, i'm a Willunga supporter - but i feel the need to report what i saw first hand. And if it was 'just a brain snap' he needs to be dealt with accordingly.

Absolute minimum 6 weeks - That's regardless of whether they wish to set a precedent or make an example of it. If they wish to take a stance and make everyone sit up and take notice - then he should get 8-10.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Kurt Pilkington » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:07 pm

dodgingandweaving wrote:I'm not here to hang the guy, i'm a Willunga supporter - but i feel the need to report what i saw first hand. And if it was 'just a brain snap' he needs to be dealt with accordingly.

Absolute minimum 6 weeks - That's regardless of whether they wish to set a precedent or make an example of it. If they wish to take a stance and make everyone sit up and take notice - then he should get 8-10.


Being the willunga supporter you keep saying you are D&W, have you actually talked to genovese about what happened? Have you thought that maybe you could have missed something? he will be gone for the rest of the year no doubt. Everyone makes mistakes and im sure he's regretting it majorly... the verdict will be out tomorrow and it will not be enough im sure.. then we can start this conversation again.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby jackpot jim » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:04 pm

s m skinner wrote:WOW i dont believe i have given anything away in my posts , all i have said is my opinion and that doesnt count for much in this instance . LF and Damien you make good points , some umpires are right onto it and thier are others that are not . It is not easy to make a split second decision on weather to send a player off or report him , the player who has been hit often milks the free kick for all its worth and if you act too hastily you could penalise the offending player for something not as serious as first thought . I usually find that during a game if both umpires have a good control of it then the players act accordingly , but unfortunately i think their are people who are umpiring A grade and shouldnt be , not because they want to but because their isnt enough umpires to go round . If we get better people to umpire then it makes the situation better , if all clubs got one person who has retired to take it up then you wouldnt have to put up with these guys .


Whinge all u like about umpires, things wont change.
If u got AFL umpires into the GSFL, everyone would probably think they'd do a worse job, only got to watch them on telly to see that.
End of the day, it's not the umpires responsibilty to keep control of the game in terms of thuggery, fighting, sniping etc.
Players have to be responsible for their own discipline and if they get out of hand , how about the coach or their own club officials take matters into their own hands by handing out their own penalties.
As an example, in the A&EHCA, Hahndorf Cricket Club a year or two ago took actions into their own hands by imposing suspensions on their own players for behavioural offences.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby hereforthebeer » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:08 pm

surely all you want from the umpires is consistancy, if there paying the same free kicks for both sides, no one can complain
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby ball breaker » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:21 am

cuzzy wrote:PS as discussed earlier on this season - COMPASS CHANGE ROOMS = S^%tHOUSE



oh sorry i didn't realise u played at an AFL standard and required something like the 'lexus centre'

http://www.lexuscentre.com.au/

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only gagging mate ... they rn't the best but what would your wish list be for the doggies rooms?? other than warm showers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby ball breaker » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:46 am

Out of curiosity ... and changing the topic ... did anyone watch the channel 9 late news Tues night??

some 'clown' in victoria was caughty changing the footy umpires votes (re the league medal) on cctv. He was set up by his own club after they got sus !!

dumb arse !! caught red handed ... apparently he'd won 3 league medals prior tothis season ! now they look slightly suspicious now!!

me thinks he'd be slightly embarrased!! hahahahahaa

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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby skimmer box » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:54 am

Skinner we all know who you are apparently ..all the more reason for you to keep opinions about tribunals etc to yourself or get an anon post again. You have been umpiring for less than a season and you rate yourself as the Messiah who knows it all...c'mon grasshopper. You might find the maggots won't be revealing to much info to you cos' they probably don't want confidential info leaked by the "Mole"
Let's see if you stick with umpiring, cos' you can only live on your rep as a player and coach for so long before they will actually look at your umpiring.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby teamwork » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:03 am

So any word if the tribunal was held last night and what the outcome was???
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:38 am

Genovese was given a 5 match suspension from the tribunal last night, but it was NOT the biggest suspension handed out for the evening. Davenport from the Victor B's was reporeted for headbutting, pleaded guilty and received an 8 match holiday!!! A senior colts player and a Myponga A Grade player were suspended as well.
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