South Africa vs Australia 1st Test

[wycbloods]

Name me a player who is

Benjamin Button.

[Killa]

hussey in 12months luck to be average of 20 in test

[wycbloods]

hussey in 12months luck to be average of 20 in test

depends which 12 months you look at Killa

[Pup]

hussey in 12months luck to be average of 20 in test

[Killa]

the last 12 months lucky to have 1 huundred in 25-30 innings

[spell_check]

Siddle looks like someone in the Andy Bichel or Darren Gough mould. From start to finish his deliveries are around the same speed and does not know the word quit. A great effort by everyone in this match.

[Rik E Boy]

Siddle looks like someone in the Andy Bichel or Darren Gough mould. From start to finish his deliveries are around the same speed and does not know the word quit. A great effort by everyone in this match.

How must Bichel be feeling not to be a few years younger? He'd have had a decent test career if he was starting about now.

regards,

REB

[RoosterMarty]

Name me a player who is

Benjamin Button.

[Dogwatcher]

This reminds me of how quick people were to ssay Hayden should go.

Struth, I can't believe this line keeps getting trotted out. Hayden had plenty of chance to prove he could regain form.
No one quickly jumped on him - his form slumped and progressively got worse. He had his form slump in England, that was his chance as an older player to show he still had it.
At his age he could afford no more form slumps.

Hussey isnt getting any younger.

Correct. And this period is his opportunity to salvage his career and get a second chance if the form comes back - just like Hayden in England.

[Hondo]

The Huss' averages by series have been in decline since his golden summers 2005/06 - 2007/08, with the exception of a good tour of India which is all that is saving his skin surely:

Aust in WI 2008, av 22.83
Aust in India 2008/09, av 56.28
NZ in Aust 2008/09, av 35.00
SA in Aust 2008/09, av 17.00
Aust in SA 2008/09, av 2.00 (so far)

I don't care what he did before, that man has to score some runs this series. Despite what DW says, Haydos didn't have 4 bad series out of 5 to the extent the Huss has.

In fairness, the 5th series is currently unfinished and maybe Mr Cricket will return these next 2 tests and only make it 3 bad series in 5 and then fly off to England.

But at 34 in May, it's fair to say he has past his peak and on the downward slide to the dreaded 37

[Ned]

Lets give McDonald another chance he can bat, he hasnt shown us let but he is good enough to average 40 at test level. His bowling will be ideal in England. Its a tough situation because we also need to see if McGain is up to it.

Do you honestly believe that? He does not even average 40 in state cricket, yet you think he can average 40 at International level?

Most of the Aussies I think would average more for Australia than there state, he is only 27, you dont hit your peak as a batsmen until the age of 30, 31 usually.

[Media Park]

As well as McDonald can bat, if he's in there at number 8, then the priority is his bowling...

In his bowling, he has kept his head above water. Certainly not dominating, but doing enough- keeping it tight and building pressure.

If they are dinkum about MJ going to seven or eight, then there is even less importance placed on his batting, which allows him to try and develop his bowling further....

Still very much rate him as a relatively long term prospect...

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Siddle looks like someone in the Andy Bichel or Darren Gough mould. From start to finish his deliveries are around the same speed and does not know the word quit. A great effort by everyone in this match.

How must Bichel be feeling not to be a few years younger? He'd have had a decent test career if he was starting about now.

regards,

REB

He amongst others - Noffke would have been in there already anyway; MacGill would have got more Tests than he did; Bracken may have got more of a chance at Test level. But it's fair to say Bichel has had the worst deal of it.

[Pup]

Lets give McDonald another chance he can bat, he hasnt shown us let but he is good enough to average 40 at test level. His bowling will be ideal in England. Its a tough situation because we also need to see if McGain is up to it.

Do you honestly believe that? He does not even average 40 in state cricket, yet you think he can average 40 at International level?

Most of the Aussies I think would average more for Australia than there state, he is only 27, you dont hit your peak as a batsmen until the age of 30, 31 usually.

The only two that do are Hussey and Clarke.

Ponting, Haddin, Katich, Hayden, McDonald and Symonds all average more at first class level than International level. (I threw in Symonds and Hayden because clearly cant count Hughes and North after one game.) So that puts a little hole in your theory.

I just dont think McDonald has the capabilities to average those sort of numbers at this level.

[Pup]

When was Mike Hussey's last ton?

In India.

[hearts on fire]

When was Mike Hussey's last ton?

In India.

thats ages ago, anyway, i reckon Mike's on his last few chances, if he doesn't perform this Test and Australia lose, he could be in a bit of trouble.

[Pup]

When was Mike Hussey's last ton?

In India.

thats ages ago, anyway, i reckon Mike's on his last few chances, if he doesn't perform this Test and Australia lose, he could be in a bit of trouble.

Not on last chances.

But he will make runs in these last two tests anyway. Mark it down.

[Pup]

The Huss' averages by series have been in decline since his golden summers 2005/06 - 2007/08, with the exception of a good tour of India which is all that is saving his skin surely:

Aust in WI 2008, av 22.83
Aust in India 2008/09, av 56.28
NZ in Aust 2008/09, av 35.00
SA in Aust 2008/09, av 17.00
Aust in SA 2008/09, av 2.00 (so far)

I don't care what he did before, that man has to score some runs this series. Despite what DW says, Haydos didn't have 4 bad series out of 5 to the extent the Huss has.

In fairness, the 5th series is currently unfinished and maybe Mr Cricket will return these next 2 tests and only make it 3 bad series in 5 and then fly off to England.

But at 34 in May, it's fair to say he has past his peak and on the downward slide to the dreaded 37

Are you sure?

These were Hayden's stats in his last 5 tours.

Sri Lanka 31

India 82

India 33

NZ 10.7

SA 19.50

So that is 4/5 of his last tours that he did not contribute as would have been expected, so 4 of them are failures if we are using the same formula that we are using for Hussey.

[NFC]

Sure Hussey sucks big time right now, but there is no way he's getting dropped any time soon. And by any time I mean even if he fails every innings this series he's safe. But he won't because he's far too good. Faith people.

[Hondo]

Are you sure?

These were Hayden's stats in his last 5 tours.

Sri Lanka 31
India 82
India 33
NZ 10.7
SA 19.50

So that is 4/5 of his last tours that he did not contribute as would have been expected, so 4 of them are failures if we are using the same formula that we are using for Hussey.

Yes, I am sure. Hayden actually out averaged the Huss in his list compared to yours, which is what I was saying. Huss is doing worse than Haydos was doing before he retired (up to latest test).

As you say, it's up to him to turn it around these last 2 tests otherwise he can't hold his spot under any reasonable basis surely?

Besides, I was mainly referring to DW who claims that Hussey's form slump over 5 series mirrors something similar from Hayden mid-career, which it doesn't. As I said, it's in fact worse than the slump that ended Hayden's career.

If he turns it around, then good on him and i'll back him 100%. My concern is that the International bowlers have worked him out