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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Hondo » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:09 pm

Rogers is down the pecking order with the selectors. Had his chance last year and then lost his CA Contract.

He needs a Kat-like 2009 to get himself back in line.

Jacques is next in line and, if Langer's rumour about Haydos is true (dropped on radio today), then Jacques will have a spot available sooner than we thought.

Apparently Haydos has finally started dropping the "R" word :shock:
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby am Bays » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:24 pm

Well if Hayden is starting to say the R word well he better announce it quick smart, as soon as you've lost the desire to do the little things in elite sport well you may as well pack it in.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby catchisthecry » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:56 am

I'd whack Hughes straight in...
The bloke can obviously bat. The attacks he's faced in shield cricket will be better than most of the international bowlers anyway!
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:05 am

catchisthecry wrote:I'd whack Hughes straight in...
The bloke can obviously bat. The attacks he's faced in shield cricket will be better than most of the international bowlers anyway!


South Africa home and away and England away? I don't think so. Hughes time will come and if Haydos decides to kick on he's probably got this series only perhaps to rack up a decent knock. I believe it is Hayden's concentration that has deserted him. It reminds me of the latter stages of Dean Jones' career. I believe we should perservere with the experienced players due to the high turnover of players in the last two or three years but jeez Hayden's time is starting to run out.

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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:29 am

Every Ashes tour we seem to have a new New South Wales opener in the squad. I expect Hughes may be that man. Haven't seen a lot of him, but what I have seen impresses me. I expect we'll see a lot of Hughes over the next decade.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:37 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Every Ashes tour we seem to have a new New South Wales opener in the squad. I expect Hughes may be that man. Haven't seen a lot of him, but what I have seen impresses me. I expect we'll see a lot of Hughes over the next decade.


He should be in the squad for sure. I got a good look at him in the Shield Final last year. The kid can play no doubt about it.

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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby catchisthecry » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:41 am

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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby blink » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:59 am

So most of you are saying that the order (as of right now) for the next in line for the openers gig would be:

1. Jacques
2. Hughes

Followed by maybe Klinger then Rogers?
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby NFC » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:42 pm

blink wrote:So most of you are saying that the order (as of right now) for the next in line for the openers gig would be:

1. Jacques
2. Hughes

Followed by maybe Klinger then Rogers?

I reckon Hughes is in front of Jacques. Out of sight, out of mind.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby brod » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:43 pm

Another fine performance by Hughes in the Ranger Cup game vs WA on Tuesday scoring 53*
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby brod » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:54 pm

Now showing that he can do the T20 thing (72*) at the moment
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby NFC » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:40 am

He absolutely does it all! Gun!
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby brod » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:16 pm

brod wrote:Now showing that he can do the T20 thing (72*) at the moment


Debut match as well !
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Hondo » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:19 pm

Saw him tonight for the first time (on TV)

He looks good but it's not a classic style he has going on there :shock: Based on NFC's comments I was expecting something like a Lara. Hughes seems more of a grunt player, for want of a better word. I want to say "slogger" but that's unfair. He looked like a more aggressive Simon Katich with a very similar opening stance and shuffle on the crease. The commentaters felt his stroke range was a bit limited with the cut shot being his favourite.

So I still think he needs more time before he could open for Australia. But that's just my opinion I haven't seen him in any Shield games in which he's obviously belting them.

Tell you what, his 22 year old opening partner David Warner looked the goods. It's only 20-20 I know but geez he was hitting them cleanly :shock:
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Pidge » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm

There are at least 10 other players i would put in before Hughes. Dont rate him. You dont put average players in the Australian Team after a handful of Shield games.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:00 pm

hondo71 wrote:Saw him tonight for the first time (on TV)

He looks good but it's not a classic style he has going on there :shock: Based on NFC's comments I was expecting something like a Lara. Hughes seems more of a grunt player, for want of a better word. I want to say "slogger" but that's unfair. He looked like a more aggressive Simon Katich with a very similar opening stance and shuffle on the crease. The commentaters felt his stroke range was a bit limited with the cut shot being his favourite.

So I still think he needs more time before he could open for Australia. But that's just my opinion I haven't seen him in any Shield games in which he's obviously belting them.

Tell you what, his 22 year old opening partner David Warner looked the goods. It's only 20-20 I know but geez he was hitting them cleanly :shock:


What you saw was a game of 20/20. It hardly gives an indication of any players true game. Perhaps watch him play real cricket then make your mind up. Warner for example slogs well but can't get a game in the NSW Shield side. He's a slogger whereas Hughes is a genuine batsman. Shaun Marsh is in the same boat as Warner too but plenty of people get carried away with guys who can hit big sixes in a format designed to make bowlers look stupid.

Having said that the one thing i do agree with you on is the fact he needs more time before being thrown onto the international stage. Let him develop a little longer and he will become a star. He's only 20 so there is no need to rush him.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:01 pm

Pidge wrote:There are at least 10 other players i would put in before Hughes. Dont rate him. You dont put average players in the Australian Team after a handful of Shield games.


Name 10 players you would have opening for Australia in Test cricket ahead of Hughes then. This should be interesting.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Pidge » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:14 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Pidge wrote:There are at least 10 other players i would put in before Hughes. Dont rate him. You dont put average players in the Australian Team after a handful of Shield games.


Name 10 players you would have opening for Australia in Test cricket ahead of Hughes then. This should be interesting.


Hayden
Katich
Rogers
Jacques
Cooper
Harris
Klinger
M Hussey
Marsh
Dighton
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:28 pm

Pidge wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Pidge wrote:There are at least 10 other players i would put in before Hughes. Dont rate him. You dont put average players in the Australian Team after a handful of Shield games.


Name 10 players you would have opening for Australia in Test cricket ahead of Hughes then. This should be interesting.


Hayden
Katich
Rogers
Jacques
Cooper
Harris
Klinger
M Hussey
Marsh
Dighton


Hayden - agree
Katich - agree
Rogers - probably agree
Jaques - if fit agree
Cooper - LMAO, you are surely taking the p1ss. Played less and done nothing even remotely close to Hughes
Klinger - Maybe, he needs to open for SA though if he wants to be considered. Hasn't opened in a first class game this season
M. Hussey - No way (plus you're cheating cos he's already in the side). He's too important in the middle order.
Marsh - LMAO, just take a look at his record in any form of the game other than 20/20 and justify to me how he can be considered as a serious contender for a berth in even a first class side let alone an international one. Just what we need in the Test side when the chips are down is a guy who can slog 40 off 20 balls and get out :roll:
Dighton - Who? Seriously though, another slogger who is best suited to playing at the level he is at. Not good enough in any form of the game to ever play for Australia barring several injuries and desperation.
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Re: Phil Hughes

Postby Pidge » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:45 pm

IMO Cooper is a very good batsman. Watched him live at the one dayer against Tasmania last month. The last couple in that list were just openers that i could think of. Maybe add Broad from Qld to that list though
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