Nazi Mickan

[zipzap]

This came up on 5AA. Apparently Gibbs & co. were very upset not being allowed to play for the school. But it was also stated that Brighton HS no longer even has a football team that plays weekly (unbelievable!) and that the Wednesday match was not really as 'crucial' as Gonzo suggests.

[drebin]

still remember st micks not allowin greg anderson play footy at port so he change schools

I played against Geg Anderson in school football just before he swapped schools so he could play for Port Adelaide. He was already a "minor" celebrity as the Swans had already drafted him by the time we played against him.

I think I should be given some credit for making him look good that day He was having a reasonable "day out" in the first half of that game - he had about 20 kicks and 10 marks before halftime when my coach decided we should tag him subsequently I was moved onto him despite desperate pleas to keep me in the comfort of the fwd pocket.

At the end of the game one of the more statistical minded parents blurted out that Anderson had about 40 kicks and 20 marks in the second half - all of which were on me! All I saw of him was his "flaying boots" as he flew over me taking mark after mark and the number on his back as he tore away from me and bombed one long kick after another into the St. Mick's fwd line. I think from memory he kicked about 8 himself that day!

Needless to say any of the AFL scouts who were allegedly there that day saw him get plenty of football and a fair percentage down to me!!!

[Dutchy]

Being School footy I take heart that there would have been 3 very happy lads who took these guys place in the team, surely that is much more important???

GFC are these guys bosses, as long as they are taking $$$ from them they have to accept the decision, sure be dissappointed but play on...

[Leaping Lindner]

I thought school footy came first?

only with private schools punky

i understand both points of view but as a bayman i want him right for saturday

i went to Adelaide High wasnt aloud to play for Norwood juniors unless i played for my school AND ADELAIDE HIGH IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL

Playing for ur school is something all players cherish these guys wanted to play let them.

This was the mid 60's admittedly but Peter Anderson went to Adelaide Boys High and was stripped off his prefect status when he chose to play for North Adelaide over the school team.
I use to go to school with Steven Trigg and he played league football with Central before the "school football season" started. When the school games started he played for the school - no arguements, no dramas.

[mal]

And the SANFL is degraded once again.

Gibbs plays under 18's football, misses game/games.
Gibbs plays for the school, misses game/games.
Gibbs gets drafted and plays for an AFL team in 2007.

Yeah lets all use the Glenelg Football Club the ones who
have made this kid a footballer not some 2 bob high school coach.

I barrack for Norwood and would love to see Gibbs play this week
I saw him last week kill the Magpies what a talent.
I sure as hell will not go and see him play school football.

And besides has anyone asked for Pagans permission ?

[Punk Rooster]

still remember st micks not allowin greg anderson play footy at port so he change schools

I played against Geg Anderson in school football just before he swapped schools so he could play for Port Adelaide. He was already a "minor" celebrity as the Swans had already drafted him by the time we played against him.

I think I should be given some credit for making him look good that day He was having a reasonable "day out" in the first half of that game - he had about 20 kicks and 10 marks before halftime when my coach decided we should tag him subsequently I was moved onto him despite desperate pleas to keep me in the comfort of the fwd pocket.

At the end of the game one of the more statistical minded parents blurted out that Anderson had about 40 kicks and 20 marks in the second half - all of which were on me! All I saw of him was his "flaying boots" as he flew over me taking mark after mark and the number on his back as he tore away from me and bombed one long kick after another into the St. Mick's fwd line. I think from memory he kicked about 8 himself that day!

Needless to say any of the AFL scouts who were allegedly there that day saw him get plenty of football and a fair percentage down to me!!!

Why didn't you go the knuckle???

[MightyEagles]

I believe that Glenelg stopped S. Kernahan from playing school footy once as well. That was over 20 years ago.

[am Bays]

still remember st micks not allowin greg anderson play footy at port so he change schools

I played against Geg Anderson in school football just before he swapped schools so he could play for Port Adelaide. He was already a "minor" celebrity as the Swans had already drafted him by the time we played against him.

I think I should be given some credit for making him look good that day He was having a reasonable "day out" in the first half of that game - he had about 20 kicks and 10 marks before halftime when my coach decided we should tag him subsequently I was moved onto him despite desperate pleas to keep me in the comfort of the fwd pocket.

At the end of the game one of the more statistical minded parents blurted out that Anderson had about 40 kicks and 20 marks in the second half - all of which were on me! All I saw of him was his "flaying boots" as he flew over me taking mark after mark and the number on his back as he tore away from me and bombed one long kick after another into the St. Mick's fwd line. I think from memory he kicked about 8 himself that day!

Needless to say any of the AFL scouts who were allegedly there that day saw him get plenty of football and a fair percentage down to me!!!

I've got a similar story Drebin, in Darwin for an U/15s game I've gone and stood this blonde haired white kid, normally you'd stay off the balck fellas as they would cut you to pieces, So I'm on this skinny blond haired kid, Come 1/4 time this kid has got leather poisoning at least a dozen touches, running haer there and everywhere....He carved up, he's not suspposed to be that good, he's white not black...

The name Nathan Buckley.....I'd like to think I gave him the confidence to go with his footy career that day......

[sus]

A game of school footy would have been no harder or more risky than a long solid high intensity competitive SANFL main training session - in fact I suggest that it would probably be easier. Dont they train hard or do any competitive practice at the Bay?

And they are still young kids and need to enjoy their sport, play with their school mates, have some fun.

A ridiculous, over-complicated, precious approach by the GFC/Mickan.

[FlyingHigh]

Surely this is the same scenario as the AFL clubs not allowing their players to play SANFL finals, even though some of those players will never get the chance to play AFL finals in their careers.

Also, regarding players who used to play mid-week for their schools and then league on Sat 20-30 years ago - that was in the days when they had full-scale match practice, more physical-contact training and less running, so playing mid-week would have probably been regarded as a good thign by the coaches back then.

The public school footy system is virtually a non-entity anyway

[bandar]

And the SANFL is degraded once again.

Gibbs plays under 18's football, misses game/games.
Gibbs plays for the school, misses game/games.
Gibbs gets drafted and plays for an AFL team in 2007.

Yeah lets all use the Glenelg Football Club the ones who
have made this kid a footballer not some 2 bob high school coach.

I barrack for Norwood and would love to see Gibbs play this week
I saw him last week kill the Magpies what a talent.
I sure as hell will not go and see him play school football.

And besides has anyone asked for Pagans permission ?

To make a claim that Glenelg have made Bryce Gibbs a player is a bit over the top. They may have added in some way to where he is now but he is the sum of a lot of parts the first being natural talent and I wouldn't discount Plympton Football Club, Brighton High and most of all his old man.

Lets not forget the kid is 17 and would probably love to have a game with his mates probably for the last time ever, wouldn't it be good if they could actually take a little pressure of him for a while.

I think you overestimate how much coaching and feedback most kids get from their clubs. Did Glenelg make Phil Raymond (drafted by St Kilda) in the ten games he played in their under 19's. I severely doubt it.

[mal]

And the SANFL is degraded once again.

Gibbs plays under 18's football, misses game/games.
Gibbs plays for the school, misses game/games.
Gibbs gets drafted and plays for an AFL team in 2007.

Yeah lets all use the Glenelg Football Club the ones who
have made this kid a footballer not some 2 bob high school coach.

I barrack for Norwood and would love to see Gibbs play this week
I saw him last week kill the Magpies what a talent.
I sure as hell will not go and see him play school football.

And besides has anyone asked for Pagans permission ?

To make a claim that Glenelg have made Bryce Gibbs a player is a bit over the top. They may have added in some way to where he is now but he is the sum of a lot of parts the first being natural talent and I wouldn't discount Plympton Football Club, Brighton High and most of all his old man.

Lets not forget the kid is 17 and would probably love to have a game with his mates probably for the last time ever, wouldn't it be good if they could actually take a little pressure of him for a while.

I think you overestimate how much coaching and feedback most kids get from their clubs. Did Glenelg make Phil Raymond (drafted by St Kilda) in the ten games he played in their under 19's. I severely doubt it.

Where would he be if he never put on a Glenelg guernsey ?

With all due respect to the Brighton HS, Plympton FC and Ross Gibbs
they are not in the league of the Glenelg Footy Club.
Every kid who has ability needs the professionalism of an SANFL/AFL
club to harness that ability.
When was the last high school football coach or Plympton FC coach
that coached at the highest levels ?
They might help develop the kids but they are still way behind
an affliated sanfl/afl club for progressing that talent.

[topsywaldron]

the kid is 17 and would probably love to have a game with his mates

Won't any of the Glenelg team be his friend?

[gonzo]

Zipzap wrote:

This came up on 5AA. Apparently Gibbs & co. were very upset not being allowed to play for the school. But it was also stated that Brighton HS no longer even has a football team that plays weekly (unbelievable!) and that the Wednesday match was not really as 'crucial' as Gonzo suggests.

Not quite, Zipzap. The schools competion is played mid-week on a knockout basis. Last year Brighton won Div2, with the 3 lads in question. This year, in Div1 they were still alive, but each match is a final. They'd been allowed to play up until yesterday, when they lost to St Michael's, which is a football scholarship school and had at least one league player [WWT] on the field.

Brighton lost by 8 goals, so are out. I think the 3 players would have been worth 8.

Many students have part-time jobs, which is what SANFL is. Bear in mind Sellar and Austin are running around in the two's for a few dollars. Employers do not have the right to tell students what they can/can't do at school.

And I repeat, if Gibbs had played, and Mickan had dropped him, how silly would he have looked? And how popular with the fans?
I'd like to see that.

[MatteeG]

I agree with Mickan. Mainly due to the importance of this week's game.

And dont give me the "GFC dont let anyone play for their school' crap- Our juniors get absolutely decimated after the first few rounds with all the Sacred Heart etc kids playing....

[maxyoz]

Gonzo - all credit to you mate, you are trying hard. But the facts are that Bryce, James and Mark are contracted Glenelg footballers who have personal player sponsors and all of the good guts stuff that goes with it.

It would not be responsible for the Senior Coach to allow them to play in a 1-off match.

As stated by you:

This year, in Div1 they were still alive

so I am guessing that Brighton had already played games without these 3 playing. Admittedly, the guys are in Yr 12 and won't be at the school next year, but, the school obviously don't think that footy is important enough to warrent a regular team that plays schoolboy comp footy.

I feel for the guys, but what would the reaction be if an injury did occur? Yes, it's just a schoolboy comp playing against other kids - but as a St. Micks kid, would you like to go down in history as the guy who broke James Sellars leg, not allowing him to get drafted because you didn't really know what you were doing? Who's to say that any of the players know what they are doing, after all - it's just a once off.

[gonzo]

Maxyoz, High School Saturday footy expired some years back. There are plenty of clubs around to provide for the kids. Its only the Independent and Catholic schools who still have a Saturday arvo comp.
You underestimate how much this knockout cup means to schools. The final is played as a curtain raiser at AAMI. The boys wanted to play badly. They hadn't been prevented from playing in earlier games. Why now? Sniff of a finals berth? Extension of coaches contract maybe, for the first time in many years on Brighton Road?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Gonzo - all credit to you mate, you are trying hard. But the facts are that Bryce, James and Mark are contracted Glenelg footballers who have personal player sponsors and all of the good guts stuff that goes with it.

It would not be responsible for the Senior Coach to allow them to play in a 1-off match.

As stated by you:

This year, in Div1 they were still alive

so I am guessing that Brighton had already played games without these 3 playing. Admittedly, the guys are in Yr 12 and won't be at the school next year, but, the school obviously don't think that footy is important enough to warrent a regular team that plays schoolboy comp footy.

I feel for the guys, but what would the reaction be if an injury did occur? Yes, it's just a schoolboy comp playing against other kids - but as a St. Micks kid, would you like to go down in history as the guy who broke James Sellars leg, not allowing him to get drafted because you didn't really know what you were doing? Who's to say that any of the players know what they are doing, after all - it's just a once off.

That'd be the go for the past two years if that was the case though Maxy.
Any kid playing for St Micks who deliberately went out of their way with that attitude would be dumped from the team pronto. (Thats the impression I get from watching them play anyway)

[Adelaide Hawk]

I thought school footy came first?

only with private schools punky

i understand both points of view but as a bayman i want him right for saturday

i went to Adelaide High wasnt aloud to play for Norwood juniors unless i played for my school AND ADELAIDE HIGH IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL

Playing for ur school is something all players cherish these guys wanted to play let them.

This was the mid 60's admittedly but Peter Anderson went to Adelaide Boys High and was stripped off his prefect status when he chose to play for North Adelaide over the school team.
I use to go to school with Steven Trigg and he played league football with Central before the "school football season" started. When the school games started he played for the school - no arguements, no dramas.

LL, didn't Trigg attend St.Peters College? I never knew you were a toff Only joking.

You're right about Anderson losing his prefect status because he wouldn't play for the school. I was a prefect at Adelaide Boys High and was probably lucky to retain my prefect status as I refused to play footy for the school as well, but I wasn't of the profile Anderson was. My stance was if I was injured playing for the school team I couldn't benefit from the medical assistance as was provided by league clubs, or clubs in general. This is something Gibbs should possibly consider.

We had several players at our school at the time whose league careers were delayed due to playing for the school. However, there was one player a year ahead of me named Dexter Kennedy who was released by Adelaide Boys High to play his 1st league game for West Adelaide at 15 years of age. The reason? ..... he wasn't considered at the time to be good enough to play in the 1st XVIII for Adelaide High

[Dutchy]

[quote="gonzo"] The final is played as a curtain raiser at AAMI.
Probably the same day as a SANFL game - who would you want them to play for then????

The boys wanted to play badly. They hadn't been prevented from playing in earlier games. Why now? Sniff of a finals berth?
"Hits nail right on the head!"

Extension of coaches contract maybe, for the first time in many years on Brighton Road?
Hes still got 2 years to go after this one!!!![/quote]