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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Hazbeen » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:37 pm

Import rule by population sucked, yes Balaklava has a high population but not considered is the number of players from other clubs (yes I'm looking at you Ace and MC) who live in the town.

Number of imports should be based on a combination of three factors; population, last years placing and average placing over a set period e.g. 5 years.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby uncle_fester » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:17 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
jumbo wrote:
Ace of Spades wrote:
jumbo wrote:Nothing falling off Droppy? Give it time .....

Interesting Import allocations for 2009

HWE 4
Mallala 5
Balaklava 5
United 5
Two Wells 6
Hamley 7
Virginia 7


So there is a down side to snaging a premiership :D

Looks like HWE are the only club to lose an import, every one else appears to be the same as last year


Apparently based on last 4 years performance, % of winning games will determine your import "allowance".


Thats interesting Jumbo. Does this mean that the constitution or by-law has changed? I thought that only the clubs could make changes to these at the League AGM. Has the AGM been held yet? I havn't spoken to anyone for a while so I'm not sure when this is or was.

Can the clubs over-ride this if the League AGM is still to be held? Maybe I'll head up to United's AGM tonight to find out (rather not though cause sitting in the pub all night is rather appealing).

I think you're right there Fester, in that us and Hummocks are the most disadvantaged in regards to population.[/quote]

bit unfortunate that the directors of the league only act to boost their own egos & clubs instead of doing things to improve the league as a whole NOT just propping up a few clubs!
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:35 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
jumbo wrote:
Apparently based on last 4 years performance, % of winning games will determine your import "allowance".


Thats interesting Jumbo. Does this mean that the constitution or by-law has changed? I thought that only the clubs could make changes to these at the League AGM. Has the AGM been held yet? I havn't spoken to anyone for a while so I'm not sure when this is or was.

Can the clubs over-ride this if the League AGM is still to be held? Maybe I'll head up to United's AGM tonight to find out (rather not though cause sitting in the pub all night is rather appealing).

I think you're right there Fester, in that us and Hummocks are the most disadvantaged in regards to population.


I really don't know how this was arrived at MC - I hadn't heard anything either through "normal" channels. No APFL delegates have said anything at TW as far as I know.

I would think changes to the import rule would need to be discussed at club level, an opinion formed by the club and voted on at the APFL level. But we know from past years how some things are just pushed through :( Mercy rule, Robertstown are a couple of recent events ...
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Mythical Creature » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:05 pm

Hazbeen wrote:Import rule by population sucked, yes Balaklava has a high population but not considered is the number of players from other clubs (yes I'm looking at you Ace and MC) who live in the town.

Number of imports should be based on a combination of three factors; population, last years placing and average placing over a set period e.g. 5 years.


Point taken Hazbeen but every club has players living in its area that play for other clubs.
Eg: Jason Earl & Jack Chapman come from Windsor which would be considered United's area for population purposes. So I'm not sure that argument in its entirety would hold up.

On the flip side there are players playing for Balaklava that live in other clubs zones.
Eg: McMillan, Troy Scott, Haggerty, Ruiz x 3, Pascoe and thats just from the top of my head.

Therefore population does count and should be considered accordingly when devising import allocations.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby keen observer » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:54 am

so who do we think will be strong in 2009?
Is it a case of the top four from 08 playing off for the flag again?
Is there a team outside the top four we think can play a big part in sep 09?
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby maidenmagpie » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:45 am

balaklava v mallala for the 09 flag,two wells,virginia the big improvers but maybe not enough to go right through,united,hummocks i feel may stuggle but united seem to know when to stand up if they have to.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby keen observer » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:58 am

yeah fair point i reckon, i think two wells will have a good year i have heard they are recruiting a couple of experience heads to mix with the already promising youth.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:58 pm

jumbo wrote:
Mythical Creature wrote:
jumbo wrote:
Apparently based on last 4 years performance, % of winning games will determine your import "allowance".


That's interesting Jumbo. Does this mean that the constitution or by-law has changed? I thought that only the clubs could make changes to these at the League AGM. Has the AGM been held yet? I havn't spoken to anyone for a while so I'm not sure when this is or was.

Can the clubs over-ride this if the League AGM is still to be held? Maybe I'll head up to United's AGM tonight to find out (rather not though cause sitting in the pub all night is rather appealing).

I think you're right there Fester, in that us and Hummocks are the most disadvantaged in regards to population.


I really don't know how this was arrived at MC - I hadn't heard anything either through "normal" channels. No APFL delegates have said anything at TW as far as I know.

I would think changes to the import rule would need to be discussed at club level, an opinion formed by the club and voted on at the APFL level. But we know from past years how some things are just pushed through :( Mercy rule, Robertstown are a couple of recent events ...
How many times must it be said! The blokes running the show have no idea. 1st' Virginia's population in 50% Asian! and not one plays football!do they allow for this?, As for the constitution they(APFL) do what they like and change the constitution when it suits them.Which is totally illegal in Australia! But we all will stand aside and let them(APFL) brake australian laws! TRUTH IS STAND UP OR SHUT UP
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby maidenmagpie » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:36 am

the directors have as i have always said have no idea how to run a league,as long as they drink piss and act like idiots the clubs will always support them,its the worst run league around.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:48 am

maidenmagpie wrote:balaklava v mallala for the 09 flag,two wells,virginia the big improvers but maybe not enough to go right through,united,hummocks i feel may stuggle but united seem to know when to stand up if they have to.


When have United stood up when they needed to? Won't stand up this year, Broad off to Kadina or Moonta or wherever. Whose going to coach them?
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby OneNine » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:34 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:
maidenmagpie wrote:balaklava v mallala for the 09 flag,two wells,virginia the big improvers but maybe not enough to go right through,united,hummocks i feel may stuggle but united seem to know when to stand up if they have to.


When have United stood up when they needed to? Won't stand up this year, Broad off to Kadina or Moonta or wherever. Whose going to coach them?



Heard a strong rumour Broady has applied for the Salisbury West Position? United have put out some feelers to Danny Ryan (GreenArces) to see if he was interested.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby maidenmagpie » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:42 pm

well the way i look at it,united have now played in how mant finals straight,yes they havnt won to many but to make finals that many yrs in a row is a good effort.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:35 pm

OneNine wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:
maidenmagpie wrote:balaklava v mallala for the 09 flag,two wells,virginia the big improvers but maybe not enough to go right through,united,hummocks i feel may stuggle but united seem to know when to stand up if they have to.


When have United stood up when they needed to? Won't stand up this year, Broad off to Kadina or Moonta or wherever. Whose going to coach them?



Heard a strong rumour Broady has applied for the Salisbury West Position? United have put out some feelers to Danny Ryan (GreenArces) to see if he was interested.


Ha ha, United have been throwing money at Danny for years now. He's on the up with Greenies, no point going out there. I wouldn't have thought anyone with a clue would go for the SW job. However I hear inancially they are well placed so maybe if he brought half a team there it could be a goer.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby OneNine » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:54 pm

Your not far wrong there Big Shrek, Pre-season starts with a courtesy call to D.R.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:01 pm

OneNine wrote:Your not far wrong there Big Shrek, Pre-season starts with a courtesy call to D.R.


I'm not sure why the love for him is still there. I thought the connection was due to Kenty being at longies.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Rooster » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:33 pm

So i guess we can assume from the amount of Phone Calls Longies are making to anyone with a coaching record, that Broady won't be heading up the tiges in 2009?

So that's The Eag's and Longies looking for a coach, everyone else o.k. i would guess.

Wonder if Jars got a call before he took the Perth job? :D
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imports?

Postby streakofpelican » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:48 pm

what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby maidenmagpie » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:14 am

mallala would be a earl!but which one?
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Re: imports?

Postby uncle_fester » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:34 am

streakofpelican wrote:what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.


last years facts - season 2008

players gained locally
mallala - 1
two wells - 3
balaklava -3
eagles - 3
virginia - 1
hamley - 1
longies- 0

players lost locally
mallala - 4
two wells - 1
balaklava - 2
eagles - 1
virginia - 0
hamley - 0
longies - 4

i think you will find that over time it is pretty even between most clubs
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Re: imports?

Postby the big fella » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:37 am

hills country imports..

Kersbrook 3
Torrens valley 14
Nairne 4
Echunga 10
Kangarilla 5

Meadows 6
Macclesfield 5
Gumeracha 5
Callington 15

gentlemen..im sure you will correct me if i have erred!!
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