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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:23 am

Now if you could just get the SFL to move to two divisions with forced promotion / relegation, they might attract a few of the clubs from SAAFL (div 5 - 7) or Hills Country to join the league.

If the towns do join, there is nothing wrong with eight teams in div one and seven in div two next year.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby cyclops » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:32 am

if true,well done edwardstown .
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:01 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:Now if you could just get the SFL to move to two divisions with forced promotion / relegation, they might attract a few of the clubs from SAAFL (div 5 - 7) or Hills Country to join the league.

If the towns do join, there is nothing wrong with eight teams in div one and seven in div two next year.


Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:44 pm

The Lova wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:Now if you could just get the SFL to move to two divisions with forced promotion / relegation, they might attract a few of the clubs from SAAFL (div 5 - 7) or Hills Country to join the league.

If the towns do join, there is nothing wrong with eight teams in div one and seven in div two next year.


Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????


Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:51 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
The Lova wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:Now if you could just get the SFL to move to two divisions with forced promotion / relegation, they might attract a few of the clubs from SAAFL (div 5 - 7) or Hills Country to join the league.

If the towns do join, there is nothing wrong with eight teams in div one and seven in div two next year.


Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????


Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?


my point is that div 5-7 saafl teams would not be the standard the league would be interested in attracting surely.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:08 pm

The Lova wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
The Lova wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:Now if you could just get the SFL to move to two divisions with forced promotion / relegation, they might attract a few of the clubs from SAAFL (div 5 - 7) or Hills Country to join the league.

If the towns do join, there is nothing wrong with eight teams in div one and seven in div two next year.


Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????


Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?


my point is that div 5-7 saafl teams would not be the standard the league would be interested in attracting surely.


The SFL, in the longterm, needs two ten team divisions to survive and ward of defections to the three surrounding leagues. You can't expect a struggling club like Hackham, or to a lesser extent Lonsdale, to retain or attract players whilst getting thumped on a weekly basis; It's been a 5 - 7 year plan for Aldinga and they have urban sprawl;

And besides, I couldn't see any the SFL's bottom six winning the division 4 flag in the SAAFL.

Marion (Div 4/5)
Christies (Div 4/5)
Aldinga (Div 4/5)
Noarlunga (Div 5)
Lonsdale (Div /6)
Hackham (Div 7 / SAAFL C grade comp)

There are far more division two clubs that could join the SFL's than div one (SHOCS - no chance, Blackwood (rejected once before), Willunga (v. little chance), and McClaren Vale( if they are even that standard ???).
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:45 pm

None of those sides mentioned would finish top 5 in div 4. I'd put all bar 3 in top 5 in div 5 but Hackham would be div 7, Lonsdale bottom half div 5 and Aldinga middle road div 5. People can become pig-headed by just looking at the division number and judging the division. Don't kid yourself that Greenacres and Golden Grove (Div 5 grand finalists) would not make the 8 in the SFL, because I reckon they would. Saying that I doubt any more Southern SAAFL teams will make the move, as I have previously posted I beleive some SFL clubs may now see an opening and try to get a spot in the SAAFL...........Could Brighton slot straight into div 2?? (Thats just a theory)
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:48 pm

Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????[/quote]

Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?[/quote]

my point is that div 5-7 saafl teams would not be the standard the league would be interested in attracting surely.[/quote]

The SFL, in the longterm, needs two ten team divisions to survive and ward of defections to the three surrounding leagues. You can't expect a struggling club like Hackham, or to a lesser extent Lonsdale, to retain or attract players whilst getting thumped on a weekly basis; It's been a 5 - 7 year plan for Aldinga and they have urban sprawl;

And besides, I couldn't see any the SFL's bottom six winning the division 4 flag in the SAAFL.

Marion (Div 4/5)
Christies (Div 4/5)
Aldinga (Div 4/5)
Noarlunga (Div 5)
Lonsdale (Div /6)
Hackham (Div 7 / SAAFL C grade comp)

There are far more division two clubs that could join the SFL's than div one (SHOCS - no chance, Blackwood (rejected once before), Willunga (v. little chance), and McClaren Vale( if they are even that standard ???).[/quote]

Although I do agree that a 10 team 2 div comp would be perfect.
It sounds to me like you are on here to let everyone know just how "great" the SAAFL is and how its the "best" :roll:
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:50 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:None of those sides mentioned would finish top 5 in div 4. I'd put all bar 3 in top 5 in div 5 but Hackham would be div 7, Lonsdale bottom half div 5 and Aldinga middle road div 5. People can become pig-headed by just looking at the division number and judging the division. Don't kid yourself that Greenacres and Golden Grove (Div 5 grand finalists) would not make the 8 in the SFL, because I reckon they would. Saying that I doubt any more Southern SAAFL teams will make the move, as I have previously posted I beleive some SFL clubs may now see an opening and try to get a spot in the SAAFL...........Could Brighton slot straight into div 2?? (Thats just a theory)


Making the 8 in the SFL is unfortunatley not much of a challenge. making the top 4 is a very different story. Unfortunately that is where the league is at at the moment.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:53 pm

The Lova wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:None of those sides mentioned would finish top 5 in div 4. I'd put all bar 3 in top 5 in div 5 but Hackham would be div 7, Lonsdale bottom half div 5 and Aldinga middle road div 5. People can become pig-headed by just looking at the division number and judging the division. Don't kid yourself that Greenacres and Golden Grove (Div 5 grand finalists) would not make the 8 in the SFL, because I reckon they would. Saying that I doubt any more Southern SAAFL teams will make the move, as I have previously posted I beleive some SFL clubs may now see an opening and try to get a spot in the SAAFL...........Could Brighton slot straight into div 2?? (Thats just a theory)


Making the 8 in the SFL is unfortunatley not much of a challenge. making the top 4 is a very different story. Unfortunately that is where the league is at at the moment.

Very good point, I would put all those sides in div 2/bottom half div 1 and then it drops away to div 4 standard. No wonder many clubs are frustrated.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:58 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
The Lova wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:None of those sides mentioned would finish top 5 in div 4. I'd put all bar 3 in top 5 in div 5 but Hackham would be div 7, Lonsdale bottom half div 5 and Aldinga middle road div 5. People can become pig-headed by just looking at the division number and judging the division. Don't kid yourself that Greenacres and Golden Grove (Div 5 grand finalists) would not make the 8 in the SFL, because I reckon they would. Saying that I doubt any more Southern SAAFL teams will make the move, as I have previously posted I beleive some SFL clubs may now see an opening and try to get a spot in the SAAFL...........Could Brighton slot straight into div 2?? (Thats just a theory)


Making the 8 in the SFL is unfortunatley not much of a challenge. making the top 4 is a very different story. Unfortunately that is where the league is at at the moment.

Very good point, I would put all those sides in div 2/bottom half div 1 and then it drops away to div 4 standard. No wonder many clubs are frustrated.


Yes it is something that has been for a while, but other clubs are certainly trying to bridge the gap (ie morphie parks, aldinga, noarlunga) The most frustrating thing is that there is no quick fix. its a long process.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:05 pm

The Lova wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
The Lova wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:None of those sides mentioned would finish top 5 in div 4. I'd put all bar 3 in top 5 in div 5 but Hackham would be div 7, Lonsdale bottom half div 5 and Aldinga middle road div 5. People can become pig-headed by just looking at the division number and judging the division. Don't kid yourself that Greenacres and Golden Grove (Div 5 grand finalists) would not make the 8 in the SFL, because I reckon they would. Saying that I doubt any more Southern SAAFL teams will make the move, as I have previously posted I beleive some SFL clubs may now see an opening and try to get a spot in the SAAFL...........Could Brighton slot straight into div 2?? (Thats just a theory)


Making the 8 in the SFL is unfortunatley not much of a challenge. making the top 4 is a very different story. Unfortunately that is where the league is at at the moment.

Very good point, I would put all those sides in div 2/bottom half div 1 and then it drops away to div 4 standard. No wonder many clubs are frustrated.


Yes it is something that has been for a while, but other clubs are certainly trying to bridge the gap (ie morphie parks, aldinga, noarlunga) The most frustrating thing is that there is no quick fix. its a long process.

I know, I see a few SFL games each year and previously played there when the two divisions was in progress. Guess the next 2 years will be a very telling period of time regarding 2 clubs in particular.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby know all » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:13 pm

This whole thing started last year with mitton getting the ball rolling but the players were all DEAD AGAINST it has this changed now or is the club looking to do it any way?
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:22 pm

The Lova wrote:Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????


Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?[/quote]

my point is that div 5-7 saafl teams would not be the standard the league would be interested in attracting surely.[/quote]

The SFL, in the longterm, needs two ten team divisions to survive and ward of defections to the three surrounding leagues. You can't expect a struggling club like Hackham, or to a lesser extent Lonsdale, to retain or attract players whilst getting thumped on a weekly basis; It's been a 5 - 7 year plan for Aldinga and they have urban sprawl;

And besides, I couldn't see any the SFL's bottom six winning the division 4 flag in the SAAFL.

Marion (Div 4/5)
Christies (Div 4/5)
Aldinga (Div 4/5)
Noarlunga (Div 5)
Lonsdale (Div /6)
Hackham (Div 7 / SAAFL C grade comp)

There are far more division two clubs that could join the SFL's than div one (SHOCS - no chance, Blackwood (rejected once before), Willunga (v. little chance), and McClaren Vale( if they are even that standard ???).[/quote]

Although I do agree that a 10 team 2 div comp would be perfect.
It sounds to me like you are on here to let everyone know just how "great" the SAAFL is and how its the "best" :roll:[/quote]

Lol. No, far from it; See previous posts as to what I opined as the fantastic positives of the SFL; I just feel their negatives are quite serious and need addressing ASAP.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Mr Magoo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:27 pm

Some of these posts re Edwardstown and SFL are so far out of reality it is not even funny.
Willunga and McLaren both former SFL Clubs chose to go to a Country League and play other country towns.....as did Kangy and Meadows.

Why would they consider going back???? It will not happen

It is good to have a chat amongst ourselves and put options up, but keep it real!!!
Get Edwardstown in the SFL, sort out the junior concerns then start dreaming of options

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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby The Lova » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:29 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
The Lova wrote:Why would div 5-7 clubs want to come to the SFL. they would get pumped by the top 10 sides and be comptetive with the bottom 4 surely they would rather stay in the leagues they are in??????


Perhaps you should read the post again; I think you missed the first sentence?


my point is that div 5-7 saafl teams would not be the standard the league would be interested in attracting surely.[/quote]

The SFL, in the longterm, needs two ten team divisions to survive and ward of defections to the three surrounding leagues. You can't expect a struggling club like Hackham, or to a lesser extent Lonsdale, to retain or attract players whilst getting thumped on a weekly basis; It's been a 5 - 7 year plan for Aldinga and they have urban sprawl;

And besides, I couldn't see any the SFL's bottom six winning the division 4 flag in the SAAFL.

Marion (Div 4/5)
Christies (Div 4/5)
Aldinga (Div 4/5)
Noarlunga (Div 5)
Lonsdale (Div /6)
Hackham (Div 7 / SAAFL C grade comp)

There are far more division two clubs that could join the SFL's than div one (SHOCS - no chance, Blackwood (rejected once before), Willunga (v. little chance), and McClaren Vale( if they are even that standard ???).[/quote]

Although I do agree that a 10 team 2 div comp would be perfect.
It sounds to me like you are on here to let everyone know just how "great" the SAAFL is and how its the "best" :roll:[/quote]

Lol. No, far from it; See previous posts as to what I opined as the fantastic positives of the SFL; I just feel their negatives are quite serious and need addressing ASAP.[/quote]

Fair call.. Play on.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:54 pm

Mr Magoo wrote:Some of these posts re Edwardstown and SFL are so far out of reality it is not even funny.
Willunga and McLaren both former SFL Clubs chose to go to a Country League and play other country towns.....as did Kangy and Meadows.

Why would they consider going back???? It will not happen

It is good to have a chat amongst ourselves and put options up, but keep it real!!!
Get Edwardstown in the SFL, sort out the junior concerns then start dreaming of options

Have we ever heard one step at a time??????????


The league needs goals and objectives;Then you look at what issues must be overcome create the environment for these things to happen.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:38 am

Think the damage has already been done......If Hackham and/or Lonsdale go under in the next 3 years it is back to square 1. Is there honestly more teams in the short term future interested in joining the SFL?? I still strongly doubt Edwardstown have fully commited. You would think it would be bought up at their agm before such a decision is made............
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby Jardarf » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:56 pm

Can anybody tell me the reason why Blackwood was rejected from competing in the Southern Football League? You'd think from Blackwood's perspective it would be more appealing to play opposition located only a 15 min drive away in the SFL rather than having to trek all the way to Mt Barker, Lobethal or Birdwood for a game.
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Re: Edwardstown still looking

Postby shoe boy » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:09 am

After last nights phone calls I can tell you that Edwardstown WILL play in the SFL in 09 with A/B/18 and possibly 16!!
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