SAAFL Div 6 2008

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Who will take out Div 6 in 2008?

Brahma Lodge
4
3%
Colonel Light Gardens
30
20%
Glenunga
3
2%
Hectorville
24
16%
Hope Valley
36
24%
Houghton Districts
8
5%
Lockleys
8
5%
Trinity OS
12
8%
West Croydon
6
4%
Westminster OS
16
11%
 
Total votes : 147

Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby The Bartman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:49 pm

Scout wrote:who was writing them off was a question


Never said you were, just making a statement! :wink:
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby wosfc » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:06 pm

Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby The Bartman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:14 pm

wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


I would think they would play at Heccies otherwise what advantage would they get for finishing second.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby The Bartman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:18 pm

The Bartman wrote:
wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


And thinking about it further last year we finished second in the B grade and played Blackfriars at home even though Blackfriars A grade finished second.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby wosfc » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:21 pm

The Bartman wrote:
wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


I would think they would play at Heccies otherwise what advantage would they get for finishing second.



Yeah but if Heccies A Grade had finished 3rd then their B Grade would have still had to play us at Glandore despite finishing above us. Which is why you could argue that the B Grade location is based purely on the higher/lower A Grade team
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby S Demon » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:26 pm

wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


Not too sure, but say if it was a lockleys v houghton qualifying final in the b grade, the game would be played at Glandore. So I guess your B grade would get the home final, even though they finished lower.

More questions will be asked the following week in the B grade as well. Assuming CLG beat Trinity, will CLG's B grade get a home final the next week because their A grade will have one? Even though their final is a 1st semi and the A grade is a 2nd Semi (going by what you mentioned above about the location of the b grade being determined by the A grade) Heccies B grade could potentially play 2 sides at their home grounds, even after finishing 2nd!!
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby hawkseye » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:28 pm

S Demon wrote:
wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


Not too sure, but say if it was a lockleys v houghton qualifying final in the b grade, the game would be played at Glandore. So I guess your B grade would get the home final, even though they finished lower.

More questions will be asked the following week in the B grade as well. Assuming CLG beat Trinity, will CLG's B grade get a home final the next week because their A grade will have one? Even though their final is a 1st semi and the A grade is a 2nd Semi (going by what you mentioned above about the location of the b grade being determined by the A grade) Heccies B grade could potentially play 2 sides at their home grounds, even after finishing 2nd!!

Could they claim the home changerooms then technically?
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby The Bartman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:29 pm

wosfc wrote:
The Bartman wrote:
wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?



I think if that had happaned that would of been an exception, obviously that makes life so much easier with trainers, travel etc. But where it is possible the higher ranked team get a home final in the B grade otherwise it is a bit unfair if a team works hard to finish second or fourth and are not rewarded. I could be wrong but thats what i believe it was last year.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby Bold Strategy » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:34 pm

wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?


ive been told that WOS B grade will play at home, which is unfair on heccies B grade since they finshed higher then WOS but you dont no what u will get with the SAAFL,

also have WOS vs heccies at WOS means that having CLG v TOS at heccies is a more central location. Last yr when blackfriars As and Bs played at different grounds there was a 10min delay start so their B graders could get to the match
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby S Demon » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:36 pm

It should just work like this...

A grade Qualifying Final to be played - *wherever*
B grade Qualifying Final to be played before it at same ground.

If the A grade home team pays for the home final and their b grade just so happens to be in the final beforehand (even though their ladder position hasn't earnt them the right) then it's just tough luck for the other team i guess
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby wosfc » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:39 pm

The Bartman wrote:
wosfc wrote:
The Bartman wrote:
wosfc wrote:Curly question for you guys which we were debating last night. Our A grade will have a home final V HV (2nd v 3rd) Where will our B Grade play given that they finished 3rd and are due to play Heccies who finished 2nd? Heccies A Grade have got a home elimination final V Lockleys.

I am thinking that the SAAFL will look to keep Heccies two sides at the same venue which is sort of understandable. However others would argue that the location of the B Grade should be determined by the A Grade on the basis of whos A Grade finished Higher (i.e at Glandore)

Any thoughts? does anyone actually know the rules or aware of any precedents?



I think if that had happaned that would of been an exception, obviously that makes life so much easier with trainers, travel etc. But where it is possible the higher ranked team get a home final in the B grade otherwise it is a bit unfair if a team works hard to finish second or fourth and are not rewarded. I could be wrong but thats what i believe it was last year.



Your point regarding trainers, travel etc obviosuly applies to us as well, maybe it should be thought of from a club perspective based on the finishing position of the A Grade rather than looking at A & B Grade competitions independently. Then my argument would be that WOS as a club should have the advantage of being at home over Heccies
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby hawkseye » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:41 pm

S Demon wrote:It should just work like this...

A grade Qualifying Final to be played - *wherever*
B grade Qualifying Final to be played before it at same ground.

If the A grade home team pays for the home final and their b grade just so happens to be in the final beforehand (even though their ladder position hasn't earnt them the right) then it's just tough luck for the other team i guess

Agree with that. If the clubs fork out x amount of cash for the privilege of home final they should be rewarded every possible way.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby Footy Chick » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:42 pm

The official word:

The League will endeavour to match teams from the same Member Club at the same venue. (eg
Division 2 Reserve first semi final may be played before a Division 2 second semi final if one or more of the teams are from the same Member Club – finishing highest A Division team gets preference).

and thus endeth the argument.. WOS will get the A grade qualifying/B grade Elimination.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby wosfc » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:44 pm

demonseye wrote:
S Demon wrote:It should just work like this...

A grade Qualifying Final to be played - *wherever*
B grade Qualifying Final to be played before it at same ground.

If the A grade home team pays for the home final and their b grade just so happens to be in the final beforehand (even though their ladder position hasn't earnt them the right) then it's just tough luck for the other team i guess

Agree with that. If the clubs fork out x amount of cash for the privilege of home final they should be rewarded every possible way.


Agreed, this sounds right, not sure if they have rules to determine or whether they just make it up on the run. There must have been similar situations in the past which have left clubs pissed off
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby hawkseye » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:45 pm

Footy Chick wrote:The official word:

The League will endeavour to match teams from the same Member Club at the same venue. (eg
Division 2 Reserve first semi final may be played before a Division 2 second semi final if one or more of the teams are from the same Member Club – finishing highest A Division team gets preference).

and thus endeth the argument.. WOS will get the A grade qualifying/B grade Elimination.

Thats how it should be too.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby The Bartman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:59 pm

Well looks like i was off the mark! :oops:
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby Footy Chick » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:08 pm

However...

If HV A grade win against WOS to play CLG in the 2nd semi, the Magoos will probably get separated.
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby scottroo » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:28 pm

itll be like this...

D6
WOS v HV @ WOS (QUAL)

Hectoville V Lockleys @ Hectoville (ELIM)

D6R
WOS V HECTOVILLE @ WOS (QUAL)

CLG V TRINITY @ HECTOVILLE (ELIM)

2ND WEEK OF FINALS

D6
CLG V W OF WOS V HV @ CLG (2ND? SEMI)

Loser of WOS V HV (HOME TEAM) V WINNER OF LOCKLEYS HECTOVILE

D6R
WINNER CLG V TRINITY V LOSER WOS HECCIES ( IF CLG MAKE THIS GAME IT WILL BE AT CLG
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby Browny25 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:28 am

Good luck to all those playing in finals...
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Re: SAAFL Div 6 2008

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:30 am

browny2323 wrote:Good luck to all those playing in finals...


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