GSFL Movements

[Panther32]

Yeah as Kappers said this is definitely going ahead, it has already been voted on by the clubs and it was a 5 to 4 vote, so it's all go!!! I have heard though that now the AFL will be giving the clubs some funding for changing, was it all motivated by greed?????

[Mr Magoo]

A good debate re the U/17 and U19 Verses U/18

Good on you Cuzzy for bringing it up.
I believe an U/18 comp will be very good for the elite players, and is a proven competition that leads to an AFL career. HOWEVER

The U17 and u19 has also been a successful breeding ground for all SANFL clubs, over a long period and the change will have a big impact on SANFL clubs.

As pointed out by several posters, the late developers and those just off the pace will go back to local clubs and enjoy their footy.

Who is right, who is wrong? I GUESS WE WILL FIND OUT IN 3 OR 4 YEARS

Winers this week
A couple of upsets
Willunga to beat Pongy by plenty
Strath to beat the Bays in a close one
Yank to beat Victor by a point
The Creek to get the points by 10goals over the young Saints
Mclaren to upset Compass by a goal

Have good weekend

[cuzzy]

this is not having a dig at MClaren vale again but i did hear people at the bays saying last night that a senior colt from Mclaren has been suspended for 14 weeks. Is this correct, apparently he knocked another players teeth out while punching on and failed to turn up for the tribunal twice.

[eagles23]

this is not having a dig at MClaren vale again but i did hear people at the bays saying last night that a senior colt from Mclaren has been suspended for 14 weeks. Is this correct, apparently he knocked another players teeth out while punching on and failed to turn up for the tribunal twice.

They have got the story wrong a McLaren senior colt is the one who got hit.
Happened a couple of weeks ago against Goowla

[cuzzy]

ah okay so did the saints player get 14 weeks?

[cuzzy]

Did all the clubs get there mail medal invites last night?

Bays had two in the A grade
Scott Baggs
Owen Love

plus two in reserves and 4 in senior colts and 3 in junior colts.

[eagles23]

ah okay so did the saints player get 14 weeks?

Not too sure how many game he got for it but if it was 14 weeks then he deserved it.

The McLaren player was hit from behind, three teeth were bent back as they were only held in by braces.
The dentist bill is in the thousands of dollars.
Goolwa didnt turn up to the tribunal but people from McLaren did.
The incident was also caught on video.

[cuzzy]

ah okay so did the saints player get 14 weeks?

Not too sure how many game he got for it but if it was 14 weeks then he deserved it.

The McLaren player was hit from behind, three teeth were bent back as they were only held in by braces.
The dentist bill is in the thousands of dollars.
Goolwa didnt turn up to the tribunal but people from McLaren did.
The incident was also caught on video.

will be good to hear LF's side of the story, doesnt he coach this team?

[LuvsFooty]

I coach the U14's but there is always 2 sides to every story as the Encounter Bay people would understand. The Saints player must have struck the McLaren player because of the injury he sustained, however I think you will find that both players came from the ground with the blood rule so it seems that they both had a go. The Saints player wore a mouthguard it would be interesting to know if the McLarens player was. Generally its hard to knock teeth out with a correctly moulded guard from the dentist. (not condoning striking) In a separate incident in this match a Saints player had a tooth put through his tongue so this was not an isolated situation in this match. As for how many weeks the Saints player got, this is yet to be decided. The player in question could not attend the tribunal beacuse he was in hospital in surgery. See gsfl.com.au where it mentions the non attendance at the tribunal.

[kappars]

ah okay so did the saints player get 14 weeks?

Not too sure how many game he got for it but if it was 14 weeks then he deserved it.

The McLaren player was hit from behind, three teeth were bent back as they were only held in by braces.
The dentist bill is in the thousands of dollars.
Goolwa didnt turn up to the tribunal but people from McLaren did.
The incident was also caught on video.

Caught on video no better evidence than that, was it presented to the tribunal?
I have spoken to a member of the saints and although he did not see the incident he said they dont deny it happened at all but have not heard what the result handed down from the tribunal is, he also said the player was reported by the Mclaren goal umpire and also the Mclaren club offical so the field umpire did not witness the reported incident. They stated the game was very heated at times and both sides suffered from the blood rule at different times due to "off the ball" incidents. The saints snr colt side was very dissapointed with the incident along with many others during the game and unfourtunatly if the umpire does not stamp his authority on the game when incident occur they tend to get worse as frusteration grows during the match and it tends to get a little "stupid" with young males in that age gap (the player that was reported did not return to the ground after the incident due to disaplin reasons). When I questioned about the saints not showing up it was due to the offender being in hospital as a result from the same incident, as LF said was the Mclaren player wearing a mouth gaurd? and could this contribute to the injury being worse if one was not fitted and even worse to a guy with braces. Lets hope the tribunal have it sorted out and we see no more incidents like this and look forward to a great finals comp in the Snr colts.

[roo32]

I agree kappars, if the umpire doesn't nip it it the bud very early on in a game then it usually does get out of control, even more so in games where the season is on the line and you have young males involved!

[A Mum]

I coach the U14's but there is always 2 sides to every story as the Encounter Bay people would understand. The Saints player must have struck the McLaren player because of the injury he sustained, however I think you will find that both players came from the ground with the blood rule so it seems that they both had a go.

I actually saw the incident as did quite a few people near me. Both players didn't actually 'have a go' at each other to come off with the blood rule. The Saints player bi-passed the passage of play and headed straight for the McLaren player and hit him in the mouth with great force. The McLaren player was in shock as he didn't see the hit coming at all and had no chance to 'brace' himself, so to speak, the McLaren player stood there stunned for a few seconds before realising that something was not right with his teeth. The McLaren player starts heading for the bench concerned for the state of his mouth when the Saints player has again decided to hit the McLaren Player. This is where the Saints player has injured himself and had to come off with the blood rule as his hand was now bleeding. The McLaren player involved in this incident did not have anything to do with any 'agittation' that there may have been, as mentioned earlier, unfortunately for him he was just 'targeted' for no apparant reason.

I can tell you that this was not a very nice incident to witness at all and I hope I never see anything like it again. I know these boys can get all fired up with plenty of testosterone flying around but you are all right... the umpires really need to have control of these games as the physical consequences for these incidents could get much worse.

Something I'm sure we don't want to see.

[A Mum]

the player that was reported did not return to the ground after the incident due to disaplin reasons.

If this is the case I commend the coach.

[A Mum]

I All clubs assosiated with South Adelaide will have their Senior Colts coach contacted and all names avaliable for both grades will be read out requiring a yes/maybe/no answer on weather they believe they can make it at that level then the players will be contacted by letter from SA inviting them out to training in 09.

In fear of sounding really dumb !! and remember I'm just 'a mum'!!

So does this mean that everyone who is currently involved with U17, U19 at south (or any of the other clubs) will be sent back to their 'home' club and a new list started a-fresh for the U16 - U18 sides - advised as per the club coach .... or do they retain the names they've currently got at South (or other) and ask for new names as well??

But wont it just run much the same as always, that they've only changed the age groups ??

LOL... hope I made sense

[Jelom19]

Interesting few posts there,I think the SANFL is going about this the right way and is a credit to them as for retaining the same lists(quoted by AMum) I think start over again south and other clubs have idea of what players are around but from looking at colts games this year I think some guys get overlooked because of where they live clubs played for etc.Our league directors in conjunction with junior reps from all clubs in this league should put forward the names of prospective players that could play league in the future,Im sure we have some good coaches in
this league U17s just take a look at the premiership table and how close it is.I know with my involvment at South and when i asked where you got the players from the reply was looking at the mail medal results whoever got a vote got an invite to underage training(what a joke).Enough said heres my tips this week Victor to beat Yank by the length of the causeway,Willunga to beat pongy???points Langhorne to beat saints 35pts Mclaren in an upset over compass 10pts and Im going for it here Bays in a thriller 1 pt.
As for tribunal hearings didnt sound good for the goolwa chap but cuzzy were you stirring trouble with the McLaren Club again.
My Call lets develop a players and clubs to make this league one of the best in the state

[LuvsFooty]

Sounds like your more qualified to comment on the striking incident Mum beacuse you actually saw it where as i didn't.

Tips

Willunga (China) 60+
Yank 25
Creeks 60+
Strath 35
Compass 30

[Jelom19]

Luvs footy i hear you have signed popey again does your clubs constitution state that you advertise every 2 years and he has to reapply?, did hear the Hill rumour.That Shoe boy is a shit stirrer

[Dewkicker]

[quote="Jelom19"].I know with my involvment at South and when i asked where you got the players from the reply was looking at the mail medal results whoever got a vote got an invite to underage training(what a joke).
Would say that this is way off the mark, as there has been good liasion over the last decade in particular when Michael Simmons was involved. I reckon if you went back over the last 8 -10 years things have really improved and the GSFL has had more than its share of underage players represent South regularly.
I reckon that this trend will now decrease with the dropping of the U 17 and U 19 format as the proposed U 16 comp sounds like it will only be similar to the current under 15 arrangement ie. a few games a year, not a regular home and away comp with the same group of players.
For sure the Under 18 comp will be a great standard and the whole setup will help lift the standard of the local comps but be guaranteed the pathway has now got harder for the country lad with talent - in particular for those further away.

[hereforthebeer]

i disagree king kernas i think the under 18 comp is a good idea, and it will increase the standard of the country leagues, but i did here someone on kg and cornesy saying to have a allowance for 4 or 5 players who were in fact u19 in each team to allow for late developers. which is also a good idea but does this mean 5 on your list or 5 playing every week, but it could mean too many numbers, i think if you haven't made it by 18 and are not playing consistently in the reserves or league side your probably not good enough, take tarak redigolo and james boyd for example if your good enough you'll be playing league. But i also think they should limit the amount of non south australian players in the teams as this will give us a better chance of developing players, i mean who cares if you win the sa v vic game when half the side isn't even south australian!!

That is absolute crap. A lot of guys don't fill out until they are 19 or 20. Look at basketball and american football. Young players don't get recruited to the NBA or NFL until they've had a college career or, in cases like LeBron James, they are absolutely going to be a gun. In footy, the absolute guns who are playing SANFL by 18 usually progress on to the AFL, but the SANFL clubs need players who are not going to be poached by AFL clubs, guys who are coming out of U/19's and developing into SANFL standard players.

Great post Brock, the biggest down fall will be that the level of the SANFL will drop over the next decade, players who are in U18 and dont get recruited by a AFL club will more than likely return to a club in the country or amature leagues to play with mates or to go looking for $$$. This new age group suits national age restricted football and AFL clubs looking to draft kids from the SANFL but what affect will it have on the SANFL league and reserve grades?

yes some players might not fill out till they are 19 but i did say to allow 4 or 5 u19 players, and to restrict the ammount of interstate players on a list which will still allow for the for younger players ie 20 to be playing, but i still think if you are going to be a 100+ game league footballer you will be playing reserves or league in your last year of under 19's, just as the best u17 and 1/2's in our league generally play games in the seniors throughout the year, of course there will be players missed as there is today but it then up to these guys to go back to the local clubs dominate and get noticed. Does anyone know what the reserves in the sanfl get payed i know a few years it was $50 a game, well below what you can get at Langhorne Creek

[hereforthebeer]

tips for the week
Yank to beat victor, 15pts,see you at the causeway jelom, go you tigers
langhorne 55pts
strath 8 pts
willunga 100+pts
Mclaren 5 pts