Redbacks next season

[Grahaml]

How can you take grade form seriously when you are facing the 40th, 50th or 60th best bowler in the state, compared to state level where you have to make runs against the best in the country!

[Zulu]

Why wouldn't you take grade form seriously? If you can't make runs against those lesser bowlers in grade cricket, what chance have you got of making any runs at state level?

Redbacks sides are too often picked on reputation rather than form.

[Grahaml]

They picked Delmont on form, dropped Lehmann on form. If reputation was the be all and end all, Blewett and Lehmann would have played out the season. I think they pick blokes too quickly after scoring grade runs.

Grade runs are too cheap at the moment. Tom Plant will get his chance if he keeps scoring runs. I think the selectors should be saying to the guys in the team they will get a fair go, and telling blokes they won't just waltz into a team after 1 good hit or 2. Make them work harder and they should be better prepared when it comes to playing state cricket, and then try to reduce the pressure as much as they can when actually in the team. Making runs against the likes of Noffke, Bollinger et al must be hard enough, let alone knowing a failure might see you out of the team.

[GWW]

Klinger will be handy, lets hope the SACA comes to their senses and signs Harris to a decent contract ASAP.

[MAY-Z]

Klinger will be handy, lets hope the SACA comes to their senses and signs Harris to a decent contract ASAP.

klinger isnt that good at all

he is a bit of a come down after our original targets this season of hopes, rogers, bailey, marsh etc

[Stumps]

Has Klinger signed- where has this news come from??
He would be an awesome pick up IMO and is a ready made first class player-

[fuzzy_1990]

While everyone on here recognises the importance of reforming the Grade Competition and improving the standard of SA Cricket and thence the Redbacks. The most important reason why it won't happen. 13 Grade Clubs and the Cricket Committee.

Let's face it if your club wasn't in financial trouble, which to my knowledge none of the District Clubs are, why would you fold, or demote your club to a lesser competition or a relegation system, especially when YOUR club is over 100 years old, like so many of the District Grade Clubs are.

In a perfect world, there wouldn't really need to be a culling of Grade Clubs. How about a Premier Division/Grade. 12 District Clubs to send 7-8 of there best A grade players to be combined with their next club neighbour. I.E. Woodville-Port Adelaide, Northern Districts-Tea Tree Gully, Sturt-Southern Districts, Glenelg-West Torrens, Prospect-Adelaide, Kensington-East Torrens, with A Grade players from University qualifying for one of those six Premier Sides through residential Qualifications as they do for other Grade Clubs. Selection in a Premier Grade based on the players performances in his last 4 or 5 matches at A grade level, or Premier GRade Level.

That would mean A-C Grade 13 Clubs, 13 Teams, and a Premier Grade of 6 Regional Teams.

With 6 Premier Teams, a 10 Round Home and Away schedule could be played at Premier Level, while other arrangements for lower grades continue.

Club amalgamations have been tried, Woodville-West Torrens, Glenelg, etc. and they have tried to cull Port Adelaide, putting them on a performance review for 3 years, which they have negotiated reasonably well. Unfortunately it is the NIMBY attitude especially of Century old clubs that is pulling back Grade Cricket and therefore Redback standards.

Grounds are grounds, deal with it. Conditions in suburban Adelaide are going to be different than suburban Sysney, Brisbane or Hobart. A good first-class level player should learn to play on all decks. If they are that good to play at First-Class level, then they should have had every opportunity to do so, either at CBA level, or Underage level in Interstate Carnivals.

Only when a compact competition with the best cricketers the State can pull toghether is up and running will things improve. It's not all the SACA's fault. You have to wield the stick to the District Clubs. Yet it seems no-one at the Cricket Committee at SACA or the Coaching staff have had the power to do so.

Redback Junior teams have fared well in the past decade at U/15, U/!7 and U/19 Carnivals, both in Men's and Women's Comps. Get the District Club managers together and get the competition together that elite players need. Otherwise SA cricket will be in the doldrums for decades to come.

[fuzzy_1990]

By the way, the ACB or Cricket Australia might want to introduce a draught for CBA/First Class players. If they don't already. Player trades are useful, but never any guarantee, some player swops work, thinking Adam Gilchist (NSW) to (WA) or Dan Marsh (SA) to (TAS) or Michael Bevan (NSW) to (TAS) etc. others don't. Matthew Elliot from (VIC) to (SA), Damien Fleming (VIC) to (SA) was a wrong move, player trades are useful at First class level most of the time.

Back at SACA, you do get what you pay for!

In all honesty how many Grade Club Managers are going to stick there hand up and say they want to be split into a two division competition or relegated to the Adelaide Turf Competition none of them. The last clubs to go from the Competition were Elizabeth (Merger with Salisbury to form Northern Districts) 1996/97? and Student Teachers folded for Tea Tree Gully 1983/84 ? I think. Reform starts with the clubs if they have the game at heart and not just there 100+ year old clubs.
They are going to have to make the hard calls for the game to be developed better in SA. How come so many good solid performances at Junior level peeter out, it's the lack of competition for the best players. Reform the structure and save the game.

[GWW]

Klinger will be handy, lets hope the SACA comes to their senses and signs Harris to a decent contract ASAP.

klinger isnt that good at all

he is a bit of a come down after our original targets this season of hopes, rogers, bailey, marsh etc

Hes no champion but will add a bit to our batting line up not that that would be difficult.

Appears that Rogers may go to Qld as he's mates with a few Bulls' players and the retirement of Jimmy Maher has resulted in an opening position opening up. Also i think Hopes would never have been a realistic recruit, i'd say he would have had no intention of leaving Qld. All in all though i'm probably more concerned about the SACA re-signing Harris.

[bulldogproud]

By the way, the ACB or Cricket Australia might want to introduce a draught for CBA/First Class players. If they don't already. Player trades are useful, but never any guarantee, some player swops work, thinking Adam Gilchist (NSW) to (WA) or Dan Marsh (SA) to (TAS) or Michael Bevan (NSW) to (TAS) etc. others don't. Matthew Elliot from (VIC) to (SA), Damien Fleming (VIC) to (SA) was a wrong move, player trades are useful at First class level most of the time.

Back at SACA, you do get what you pay for!

In all honesty how many Grade Club Managers are going to stick there hand up and say they want to be split into a two division competition or relegated to the Adelaide Turf Competition none of them. The last clubs to go from the Competition were Elizabeth (Merger with Salisbury to form Northern Districts) 1996/97? and Student Teachers folded for Tea Tree Gully 1983/84 ? I think. Reform starts with the clubs if they have the game at heart and not just there 100+ year old clubs.
They are going to have to make the hard calls for the game to be developed better in SA. How come so many good solid performances at Junior level peeter out, it's the lack of competition for the best players. Reform the structure and save the game.

Fuzzy, I think you may find that Flinders University left after Student Teachers.

Cheers

[eags]

How come so many good solid performances at Junior level peeter out, it's the lack of competition for the best players.

Football

[heater31]

How come so many good solid performances at Junior level peeter out, it's the lack of competition for the best players.

Football

ah there in lies our problem, the bottom rung of First Class contract is about the half of the first year draftee contract. Most of these lads have been to school to work out where they will go....Why did you think Shannon Hurn declined a rookie contract after just 1 season?

[tedbullpit]

It has been reported in today's Advertiser that the SA High Performance Department is going to put in a recommendation to extend the Grade competition to 14 teams. Surely they can't be serious?

[Killa]

So they can have two divisions. Other team looks like they will try country type team.

[MAY-Z]

rogers has signed for victoria which is abit of a surprise

[stan]

rogers has signed for victoria which is abit of a surprise

Not really he wanted to play somewhere else, and Melbourne has more to offer. Also he wanted to play in a decent team.

[stan]

Just a question, has Harris Signed yet?

Just wondering, since he was pretty much the only player that actually earned his spot in the team.

[heater31]

Just a question, has Harris Signed yet?

Just wondering, since he was pretty much the only player that actually earned his spot in the team.

not as of yet. He is sticking to his guns and asking for a 2 year deal. Weather he gets it or not is up to the Saint Peters old boys club that call the shots

[brod]

Just a question, has Harris Signed yet?

Just wondering, since he was pretty much the only player that actually earned his spot in the team.

not as of yet. He is sticking to his guns and asking for a 2 year deal. Weather he gets it or not is up to the Saint Peters old boys club that call the shots

Strange to think that this would be much of a sticking point?? Why would he not deserve some for of reward and security for his performances.

[heater31]

Just a question, has Harris Signed yet?

Just wondering, since he was pretty much the only player that actually earned his spot in the team.

not as of yet. He is sticking to his guns and asking for a 2 year deal. Weather he gets it or not is up to the Saint Peters old boys club that call the shots

Strange to think that this would be much of a sticking point?? Why would he not deserve some for of reward and security for his performances.

it is when there is a policy of one year deals for anyone other than the top tier player contracts which are around 90 to 100k per year.