Southern Football League

[macca5]

porties by 10 goal over christies
noarlunga by 26 goal over hawks
emus by about 45 goal over aldinga....

[200 Killer Wasps]

Who was the football visionary who decided that Div. I and Div II should combine.

[Sherrin]

agreed, has destroyed the league...

[magpie in the 80's]

this happened in our league in the 80,s (hills league) not one div2 team defeated a div 1 team. that showed how much difference there was from the bottom side in div1 to the top side in div2. if i remember 3 ff,s had a 100 goals up by halfway through the season. 40goals to 5goals most weeks

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

Onkas, Seems to be a big call by saying that bomber wont play against the s--t teams. They were playing porties on the weekendand he didnt play!!! So does that mean that, this is how the cobras rate the divers........... Well all i would have to say is......... how right they were with the cobras having a very easy win!! If bomber was only playing one game for the year i would hope to be there to watch it!! What a champ he is!
Most of the results went according to predictions!! Cant wait for a few upsets! There are a few good games this week.

My apologies for grabbing your quote a second time GET A KICK however I now rest my case re: Bomber Ryan

Did anyone see Happy Valley V Cove? Where did the wheels fall off for the Valley? I see Josh Vick suited again for Cove (an amazing scenario seeing as Josh's dad is a regular at the Valley friday nights....I assume he's at Cove with the Ramsey etc connection? (Someone might be able to throw some light on that for me). I hate to be an old I-told-you-so but that is a huge turnaround in fortunes for both clubs. Cove killed them off judging by the scoreline and my assumption is maybe young and hungry legs versus a side that just expected it (a win) to happen?

[qwerty]

Definatley an interesting result that one.

Are Cove the real deal this year, definatley set to finish top 4 you would think after a result like that.

Re Josh Vick, he recently took a job in the country teaching up near Karoonda way. He was going to play on at south, but decided that it wasn't the right thing to be doing not training and taking a spot in the team on saturdays. He will be a very handy pick up for Cove and would pick up plenty of votes.

Bit of a reality check for Aldinga against morphies.

Hibbard kicked 11 for shoes and on 21 after two rounds and playing morphie parks thius week. Interesting to see if he can still kick goals against the better sides.

[wishiwas]

can someone assist with the aldinga scores. surely not 45 goals??

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

Cheers qwerty, thanks for the update on Josh Vick.

Are Cove the real deal? Maybe..they lack a little down back and have a few 'outside' players. The plus side is they have some good juniors,a dash of experience with Gill,Fudge etc and Ryan when he plays. They are very well coached but it is difficult to see them knocking over Reynella or Morphies when it counts. Not this year but perhaps 2007/08? Time will tell.

[smithy]

A
Club Win Loss Draw For Agnst Pts %var Rnd BYE
NOARLUNGA 2 0 0 314 105 4 74.94 02
REYNELLA 2 0 0 275 115 4 70.51 02
COVE 2 0 0 278 145 4 65.72 02
BRIGHTON DIST 2 0 0 305 160 4 65.59 02
MORPHETT VALE 1 1 0 359 104 2 77.54 02
HAPPY VALLEY 1 1 0 197 173 2 53.24 02
PORT NOARLUNGA 1 1 0 222 217 2 50.57 02
FLAGSTAFF HILL 1 1 0 179 217 2 45.20 02
MARION 1 1 0 146 213 2 40.67 02
ALDINGA 1 1 0 105 332 2 24.03 02
OSB/LONSDALE 0 2 0 166 266 0 38.43 02
CHRISTIES BEACH 0 2 0 185 308 0 37.53 02
MORPHETVILLE PK 0 2 0 110 285 0 27.85 02
HACKHAM 0 2 0 76 277 0 21.53 02

PORT NOARLUNGA 21-14 .d. CHRISTIES BEACH 11-10
FLAGSTAFF HILL 21-17 .d. OSB/LONSDALE 13-5
COVE 21-11 .d. HAPPY VALLEY 8-15
BRIGHTON DIST 20-17 .d. MARION 8-3
REYNELLA 28-22 .d. MORPHETVILLE PK 5-4
MORPHETT VALE 42-26 .d. ALDINGA 3-1
NOARLUNGA 29-17 .d. HACKHAM 3-4
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B
Club Win Loss Draw For Agnst Pts %var Rnd BYE
BRIGHTON DIST 2 0 0 419 76 4 84.65 02
MORPHETT VALE 2 0 0 302 59 4 83.66 02
NOARLUNGA 2 0 0 179 39 4 82.11 02
HAPPY VALLEY 2 0 0 133 75 4 63.94 02
PORT NOARLUNGA 2 0 0 127 105 4 54.74 02
REYNELLA 1 1 0 183 91 2 66.79 02
OSB/LONSDALE 1 1 0 78 122 2 39.00 02
ALDINGA 1 1 0 110 246 2 30.90 02
MARION 1 1 0 105 366 2 22.29 02
COVE 0 2 0 106 130 0 44.92 02
CHRISTIES BEACH 0 2 0 101 157 0 39.15 02
FLAGSTAFF HILL 0 2 0 72 132 0 35.29 02
MORPHETVILLE PK 0 2 0 54 213 0 20.22 02
HACKHAM 0 2 0 48 206 0 18.90 02

VALLEY 10-6 .d. COVE 7-6
NOARLUNGA 15-12 .d. HACKHAM 4-2
MORPHETT VALE 34-20 .d. ALDINGA 1-0
BRIGHTON DIST 51-19 .d. MARION 3-4
OSB/LONSDALE 10-5 .d. FLAGSTAFF HILL 6-9
PORT NOARLUNGA 10-3 .d. CHRISTIES BEACH 7-5
REYNELLA 19-16 .d. MORPHETVILLE PK 2-1
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C
Club Win Loss Draw For Agnst Pts %var Rnd BYE
NOARLUNGA 2 0 0 217 57 4 79.20 02
MORPHETT VALE 2 0 0 177 68 4 72.24 02
HAPPY VALLEY 1 0 1 199 103 3 65.89 02
MORPHETVILLE PK 1 0 1 128 87 3 59.53 02
BRIGHTON DIST 0 0 2 125 125 2 50.00 02
PORT NOARLUNGA 1 1 0 131 136 2 49.06 02
FLAGSTAFF HILL 1 1 0 124 134 2 48.06 02
COVE 0 2 0 84 162 0 34.15 02
CHRISTIES BEACH 0 2 0 66 222 0 22.92 02
REYNELLA 0 2 0 66 223 0 22.84 02

HAPPY VALLEY 20-7 .d. REYNELLA 5-1
NOARLUNGA 20-11 .d. CHRISTIES BEACH 2-1
MORPHETVILLE PK 7-11 .d. BRIGHTON DIST 6-17
MORPHETT VALE 11-15 .d. FLAGSTAFF HILL 4-9
PORT NOARLUNGA 13-9 .d. COVE 8-2

[BubblesOfBlue]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

You would think based on those results that BDOS's B Grade would have accounted quite comfortably for Marion's A Grade as well.

Split the league again into Divisions or clubs will go by the wayside.

[BubblesOfBlue]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

You would think based on those results that BDOS's B Grade would have accounted quite comfortably for Marion's A Grade as well.

Split the league again into Divisions or clubs will go by the wayside.

Do you think that two divisions is actually viable though? Is there enough teams or would you include Kangarilla again? I don't see how two divisions will work not enough teams. Marion were part of the old division one aswell.

[Tiger Couple]

Brighton C Grade have had 2 Draws from there first 2 games. Interesting start to the season would be keen for a win.

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

You would think based on those results that BDOS's B Grade would have accounted quite comfortably for Marion's A Grade as well.

Split the league again into Divisions or clubs will go by the wayside.

Do you think that two divisions is actually viable though? Is there enough teams or would you include Kangarilla again? I don't see how two divisions will work not enough teams. Marion were part of the old division one aswell.

I see what you are saying Bubbles but something needs to be done - and sooner rather than later. The focus on the weaker clubs is generally paramount in these conversations but what of the strong clubs? They continually find it difficult to attract players because the comp is how it is..how long before they seriously sit down with the SAAFL and jump ship. Don't think it would happen? I can tell you with some authority that it has been discussed. How do you think the SFL would look without Reynella,MorphettVale,Happy Valley & BDOS? Fairly sick I suggest.
Maybe the solution is not to have 2 Divisions. This comp would be pretty attractive:
MorphettVale
Reynella
Happy Valley
BDOS
Flagstaff Hill
Port Noarlunga
Noarlunga
Cove

Aldinga can go to the Great Southern or fold. Christies could play Div 6 amateurs,Hackham - fold,Lonsdale - fold, Marion - Div 6 as well (your point about Marion being in the old Div 1 doesn't hold water with the mess it's in now),Morphettville Park - fold. Believe me when I say I hate seeing clubs disappear (and bear in mind I played a lot of footy for one of those clubs I nominate as needing to pack it in) but the reality is that they are running on extremely borrowed time as it is. A strong league would have ejected them two years ago.
I keep banging the same drum...footy has never been sicker than it is right now and unless suburban leagues like the SFL stop trying to appease and prop up the poverty row clubs they will have little left to administer in the shortterm.

[BubblesOfBlue]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

You would think based on those results that BDOS's B Grade would have accounted quite comfortably for Marion's A Grade as well.

Split the league again into Divisions or clubs will go by the wayside.

Do you think that two divisions is actually viable though? Is there enough teams or would you include Kangarilla again? I don't see how two divisions will work not enough teams. Marion were part of the old division one aswell.

I see what you are saying Bubbles but something needs to be done - and sooner rather than later. The focus on the weaker clubs is generally paramount in these conversations but what of the strong clubs? They continually find it difficult to attract players because the comp is how it is..how long before they seriously sit down with the SAAFL and jump ship. Don't think it would happen? I can tell you with some authority that it has been discussed. How do you think the SFL would look without Reynella,MorphettVale,Happy Valley & BDOS? Fairly sick I suggest.
Maybe the solution is not to have 2 Divisions. This comp would be pretty attractive:
MorphettVale
Reynella
Happy Valley
BDOS
Flagstaff Hill
Port Noarlunga
Noarlunga
Cove

Aldinga can go to the Great Southern or fold. Christies could play Div 6 amateurs,Hackham - fold,Lonsdale - fold, Marion - Div 6 as well (your point about Marion being in the old Div 1 doesn't hold water with the mess it's in now),Morphettville Park - fold. Believe me when I say I hate seeing clubs disappear (and bear in mind I played a lot of footy for one of those clubs I nominate as needing to pack it in) but the reality is that they are running on extremely borrowed time as it is. A strong league would have ejected them two years ago.
I keep banging the same drum...footy has never been sicker than it is right now and unless suburban leagues like the SFL stop trying to appease and prop up the poverty row clubs they will have little left to administer in the shortterm.

I agree something does need to be done I am interested in why you think Christies don't have a place in the SFL?? this would make an uneven number of teams I know but surely they are strong enough to stay in this comp especially if a few of the clubs around them folded.

[BubblesOfBlue]

Also OVV was jumping ship to the saafl talked about in your time at Valleys, also what was your role at Valleys?

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

massive win to Brighton in the B grade, could be interesting to see what happens to Marions A's if they get a few injuries

You would think based on those results that BDOS's B Grade would have accounted quite comfortably for Marion's A Grade as well.

Split the league again into Divisions or clubs will go by the wayside.

Do you think that two divisions is actually viable though? Is there enough teams or would you include Kangarilla again? I don't see how two divisions will work not enough teams. Marion were part of the old division one aswell.

I see what you are saying Bubbles but something needs to be done - and sooner rather than later. The focus on the weaker clubs is generally paramount in these conversations but what of the strong clubs? They continually find it difficult to attract players because the comp is how it is..how long before they seriously sit down with the SAAFL and jump ship. Don't think it would happen? I can tell you with some authority that it has been discussed. How do you think the SFL would look without Reynella,MorphettVale,Happy Valley & BDOS? Fairly sick I suggest.
Maybe the solution is not to have 2 Divisions. This comp would be pretty attractive:
MorphettVale
Reynella
Happy Valley
BDOS
Flagstaff Hill
Port Noarlunga
Noarlunga
Cove

Aldinga can go to the Great Southern or fold. Christies could play Div 6 amateurs,Hackham - fold,Lonsdale - fold, Marion - Div 6 as well (your point about Marion being in the old Div 1 doesn't hold water with the mess it's in now),Morphettville Park - fold. Believe me when I say I hate seeing clubs disappear (and bear in mind I played a lot of footy for one of those clubs I nominate as needing to pack it in) but the reality is that they are running on extremely borrowed time as it is. A strong league would have ejected them two years ago.
I keep banging the same drum...footy has never been sicker than it is right now and unless suburban leagues like the SFL stop trying to appease and prop up the poverty row clubs they will have little left to administer in the shortterm.

I agree something does need to be done I am interested in why you think Christies don't have a place in the SFL?? this would make an uneven number of teams I know but surely they are strong enough to stay in this comp especially if a few of the clubs around them folded.

Well I fail to see where they enhance the league at all. They get smashed against the better clubs and are not anything like professional in the way they present themselves on any level. You couldn't seriously put them on a par with Flaggies or Cove in the current climate. Christies once had the opportunity to be the premier club in the comp - so what happened? Nowadays they fall into the ridiculous Final 8 and last about 5 minutes after spending a season battling it out with the mid-strength clubs and comfortably beating (not smashing) the duds.

[Old and Grey]

Some of these sides you have mentioned for your little comp on its own where not that long ago getting smashed themselves by the margins that the sides you want to get rid are currently being beaten by. When you are successful it is easier to attract players, kids and money to continue in that vain. I'm sure some of the clubs you are wanting to get rid are very proud clubs with a lot of tradition and will not just fall over. Maybe the powers that be run the league need to have a good hard look at themselves as it appears it all becomes a bit too hard to try to balance the league up!

[onkas-valleysvirgin]

Some of these sides you have mentioned for your little comp on its own where not that long ago getting smashed themselves by the margins that the sides you want to get rid are currently being beaten by. When you are successful it is easier to attract players, kids and money to continue in that vain. I'm sure some of the clubs you are wanting to get rid are very proud clubs with a lot of tradition and will not just fall over. Maybe the powers that be run the league need to have a good hard look at themselves as it appears it all becomes a bit too hard to try to balance the league up!

There's some truth in what you say. The SFL are absolutely responsible for the competition being the way it is but seeing how the SFL management is almost exclusively made up of people from those struggling clubs it is difficult to see how they can objectively fix it.
The successful clubs efforts are even more remarkable given the nature of the league.None of them pay very much to their players (you'd be surprised how little) and their committees are active and vigorous. Happy Valley sold over $12,000 in merchandising goods last year...what would they have sold at Lonsdale Lions? a couple of stubby holders?
There is no doubt that some of those clubs were once proud vibrant entities. That is no longer the case and has not been for a very long time in the cases of Morphettville Pk,Hackham and Lonsdale in particular. Aldinga were strongish in Div 2.

Get rid of them or die.

[Old and Grey]

I beg to differ that the management of the SFL is made up of delegates from the struggling clubs, I'd say it is more like the stronger clubs make it up. Let's look after the top four! If Happy Valley's results continue on like Saturday's against Cove where will you be then? An elitist competition and you can play each other every week. It's no wonder you can sell so much merchadise with the inifinite number of kids running aorund out there.