Redbacks next season

[sasquatch]

Realistically, we need a few really good players to come over from other states...
NSW would be the best target, perhaps a state player not too happy with being omitted from the final...
Having said that, Khawarja wouldn't be that handy...
Cameron on the other hand...

[Killa]

Players to target:
NSW
Lambert
Cameron
Henriques
Hazelwood (U/19 WC player, only young worth the place to get him as a rookie and has pace)
Smith (U/19 WC player)

VIC
Blizzard
Klinger

WA
Rogers

The next best place to recruit players from NSW grade cricket but I can see a change next year. Players need to have more fun than worring about when they mite get dropped.

[GWW]

We've already got Dietz and Christian from NSW District Cricket. I cant see the need to go for another Grade cricketer from Sydney unless its an exceptional youngster who can't get a game because of a lack of experience. We'd be better off just going with the Borgas boys than do that.

[gadj1976]

Yep, good idea - target 3 to 4 interstate players so we can be competitive, and in 5 years time we will be back to square one. Great thinking.

[BUZZ]

How about we either 'high performance' our local talent or do what every other sporting organisation does and just develop and plain old coach.
Never understood what a high performance coach was........

[Pup]

Yep, good idea - target 3 to 4 interstate players so we can be competitive, and in 5 years time we will be back to square one. Great thinking.

It is not about selling the future to fix the present, It needs to be a combination of both. If you honestly think that the redbacks dont need players from out of the state and can work with what they have got then you are delusional. The current crop is not going to get the job done and neither will the future lot if we keep going down this track. Obviously there are other things that need fixing such as off field appointments and better development programs but that does not change the fact that SA need new blood and they need it now.

By your thinking the Redbacks should not recruit anyone and then keep this side developing for the next 4-5 years? Please if they do that then it is going to be 4-5 years at the bottom of the table and by that stage they will have even less supporters than they do now.

[BUZZ]

Yep, good idea - target 3 to 4 interstate players so we can be competitive, and in 5 years time we will be back to square one. Great thinking.

It is not about selling the future to fix the present, It needs to be a combination of both. If you honestly think that the redbacks dont need players from out of the state and can work with what they have got then you are delusional. The current crop is not going to get the job done and neither will the future lot if we keep going down this track. Obviously there are other things that need fixing such as off field appointments and better development programs but that does not change the fact that SA need new blood and they need it now.

By your thinking the Redbacks should not recruit anyone and then keep this side developing for the next 4-5 years? Please if they do that then it is going to be 4-5 years at the bottom of the table and by that stage they will have even less supporters than they do now.

I agree with you, we have spent the last few years sitting at the bottom, support is thinning rapidly.
So if the solution is to recruit interstate players, do we target established players who would ask for the $, or target kids and develop them?
No prejudice intended

[Pup]

I agree with you, we have spent the last few years sitting at the bottom, support is thinning rapidly.So if the solution is to recruit interstate players, do we target established players who would ask for the $, or target kids and develop them?
No prejudice intended

I really think they have to target Rogers, He may want out of WA and has been linked to SA. Would provide a massive boost in the batting line up. Should find out this week if he is interested.

Answer to your question i honestly think they have to do both, try and grab someone like Rogers and then poach a couple of good talented youngsters from other states and develop them. This way you can still be competitive with the new blood as well as work on developing the youngsters that are already here. In reality there needs to be a shake up of grade cricket and just the whole SACA in general this pre season. If they can get a couple of players from other states as well as do a review of grade cricket and the development programs and start fixing the things that are wrong then we are on the right track. If these things dont happen look forward to a long 5-6 years.

[BUZZ]

I remember as a junior there were plenty of pre season training camps/special squads that primary and early high school adged kids could attend. Are these a thing of the past, as stated our district cricket needs a total revamp, the only sign of a change at that level was to appoint a CA represenative to each club, respectivaly these guys were payed around 10k. I hope they start earning the coin soon.....

[heater31]

I remember as a junior there were plenty of pre season training camps/special squads that primary and early high school adged kids could attend. Are these a thing of the past, as stated our district cricket needs a total revamp, the only sign of a change at that level was to appoint a CA represenative to each club, respectivaly these guys were payed around 10k. I hope they start earning the coin soon.....

IMHO the whole SACA needs a total cleanout. Especially the high performance department. We have a current SACA employee advocating that the correct batting technique is to plant the front foot down the wicket and belt the cover off the ball What hope in hell do these up and coming youngsters have when you have a bowling injury prone national representative directing kids this.


We are the current u/17 national champs 2 years running including this season undefeated so there is talent out there. Get these kids now playing higher grade cricket now giving them experience against men and continue developing these lads and if its done correctly then results should show.

[westcoastpanther]

My mail tells me we may have signed a 27 year old batsmen from WA......details soon

[Bob Loblaw]

My mail tells me we may have signed a 27 year old batsmen from WA......details soon

i'm struggling to think of any 27 year old batsmen from WA

[blink]

My mail tells me we may have signed a 27 year old batsmen from WA......details soon

Hmmm...

Can't be Rogers - he is 30

Could be Voges - turned 28 recently
Could be (but highly doubtful considering he is captain) Marcus North - he is 28 also...

[schimma]

I remember as a junior there were plenty of pre season training camps/special squads that primary and early high school adged kids could attend. Are these a thing of the past, as stated our district cricket needs a total revamp, the only sign of a change at that level was to appoint a CA represenative to each club, respectivaly these guys were payed around 10k. I hope they start earning the coin soon.....

IMHO the whole SACA needs a total cleanout. Especially the high performance department. We have a current SACA employee advocating that the correct batting technique is to plant the front foot down the wicket and belt the cover off the ball What hope in hell do these up and coming youngsters have when you have a bowling injury prone national representative directing kids this.


We are the current u/17 national champs 2 years running including this season undefeated so there is talent out there. Get these kids now playing higher grade cricket now giving them experience against men and continue developing these lads and if its done correctly then results should show.

agree start from scratch keep playing the young lads while we fix the grade level. We dont need a quick fix or influx of money hungry cant get a game in there own state sort of players. Lets not think about 2 years down the track. try looking 5 years!!! Just my 2 bobs worth

[Killa]

So we need youth thats right. I think SA is at least 6 to 10 years away to start becoming a force. For a fact how many country cricketers have played for there state. Look at SA just about none. With SACA identifying this problem and this is where the state is failing to develop quality players to play international cricket. For a short term I believe we need to get rid of the following players:
Adcock
Deitz
Rofe
And players who have been around for a while but have not developed.

So, I believe short term fix I believe SA should chase Henriques. Who is touted as one of the young allrounders going around in the country. We can offer him much more game time than NSW can. Next when I watching the U/19 World Cup Hazelwood got my attention good young quick bowler with height. This bloke should be targeted when bowls nearly 140km.

Next Season will be a young side hear is follow with the current players (Future 11):
D. Harris
J. Borgas/ T. Plant
A. Delmont
C. Borgas
M. Cosgrove- only if he gets in shape
C. Ferguson
G. Manou
M. Cleary
R. Harris
D. Cullen/ C. Bailey
S. Tait- only if fit
12th- K Skewes

[rod_rooster]

Geez that side would sure cop some beltings. Nothing helps develop players more than getting smashed in everygame you play

You need quality experienced players in a side that can perform at a consistant level in order to give confidence to the youngters to back themselves and gradually become more consistant themselves. Throw together a side of young players who are mediocre (in terms of consistancy) at best and it is a recipe for disaster.

[GWW]

Next Season will be a young side hear is follow with the current players (Future 11):
D. Harris
J. Borgas/ T. Plant
A. Delmont
C. Borgas
M. Cosgrove- only if he gets in shape
C. Ferguson
G. Manou
M. Cleary
R. Harris
D. Cullen/ C. Bailey
S. Tait- only if fit
12th- K Skewes

Yeah that side is pretty much is what we started off with at the start of the year, minus Lehmann (who won us a couple of games off his own bat) and Adcock). I dont think Delmont is upu to batting at 3, maybe 6. Relying on Cosgrove to get fit isn't wise either. If we go into the early games next year looking like that we'll all be on here going on about how crap we are and nothing has changed since the 07/08 season.

[RustyCage]

The problem with having a 3-5 year plan to allow our young talent to develop is we have plenty of young players, but not much talant. I dont see any of our younger players developing into anything more than handy players, with Delmont probably the pick of them.

[GWW]

I'm still not sure about Delmont, made a few 20's and 30's but didn't look like going on with it. I still think Cameron Borgas is our best LONG TERM hope despite his horror run earlier in the season which resulted in him being dropped. Ferugon maybe too but he is too inconsistent and cant convert his scores into a hundred.

[Pup]

Next Season will be a young side hear is follow with the current players (Future 11):
D. Harris
J. Borgas/ T. Plant
A. Delmont
C. Borgas
M. Cosgrove- only if he gets in shape
C. Ferguson
G. Manou
M. Cleary
R. Harris
D. Cullen/ C. Bailey
S. Tait- only if fit
12th- K Skewes

How many of these young players are going to be excellent state cricketers and win SA games? I will tell you, 2. Shaun Tait and Mark Cosgrove, one is overweight and who knows what the other one will be doing in regards to cricket. The others are average plodders who in most cases would not get a game for other states.

This team that you have got listed will get belted most weeks and will be lucky to pass 150 particular if Cossie cant get his shit together. The thing you need to realise is that this side needs experience in it as well and someone like Rogers would be well worth the money, having a side like this wont develop into a terrific state side purely because there is not enough up side to most of these players.

On your other comments Henriques would not be a quick fix, because he would be a long term player (International Duties Pending Obviously.) but i think we would have to move heaven and earth to get him. He is very very highly rated. They need to look at getting 1/2 experienced players as well as 1/2 kids that they can develop.