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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:50 am

They are games for players with niggling injuries to rest in, you don't bank on having your position on the ladder come down to percentage, it's unlucky if it does. Top 5 teams can rest players against the bottom 5 teams.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Leg Rope » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:17 pm

Maybe the Reynella players had some "NIGGLY Injuries" Swooper.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:26 pm

damian wrote:They are games for players with niggling injuries to rest in, you don't bank on having your position on the ladder come down to percentage, it's unlucky if it does. Top 5 teams can rest players against the bottom 5 teams.


Interesting to hear where your team has been last couple of years on the ladder? You don't go out to drop games that you expect to win do you but it happens. It's not unlucky if you have a chance to do something about it.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BJ Ernest » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:36 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:Understand what your saying but the fact that you say there are a few games they can rest in surprises me. Valley had to win there last 4 games to make the 4 doesn't strike me as a position to rest players as when it may come down to % you need to beat Hackham by as much as you can because you know everyone else will be trying to.


How is it surprising i said that? It makes perfect sense to not play all of ur guns in those games. The only thing u get out of a game like that is bad habits and injuries.

To be in that position in the 1st place is not good, and to drop games u shouldnt have puts pressure on the side like what happened to the Valleys. That is not the February comps fault, thats a mental lapse or perhaps the side not being as good as it needs to be to consistently beat sides it should. That is not an attack on Happy Valley either it is a broad comment about football sides that dont win games they should win.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:56 pm

BJ Ernest wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:Understand what your saying but the fact that you say there are a few games they can rest in surprises me. Valley had to win there last 4 games to make the 4 doesn't strike me as a position to rest players as when it may come down to % you need to beat Hackham by as much as you can because you know everyone else will be trying to.


How is it surprising i said that? It makes perfect sense to not play all of ur guns in those games. The only thing u get out of a game like that is bad habits and injuries.

To be in that position in the 1st place is not good, and to drop games u shouldnt have puts pressure on the side like what happened to the Valleys. That is not the February comps fault, thats a mental lapse or perhaps the side not being as good as it needs to be to consistently beat sides it should. That is not an attack on Happy Valley either it is a broad comment about football sides that dont win games they should win.


I'm not referring to the teams at the top im referring to the middle of the road teams that are fighting for the 4. Obviously they are the ones that cannot let up against a lesser side and if they do it is at there peril. Flaggies showed it last year no one would have tipped them to get within 10 goals of Morphett Vale at the pointy end of the season in there last game but they went down by 7 pts! Barring Hackham you could not afford to give Aldinga or Flaggies some of the lower teams a sniff nothing fire a team up more than the arrogance that they think they can just rock up with there B grade side and get away with the bikkies.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:15 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
damian wrote:They are games for players with niggling injuries to rest in, you don't bank on having your position on the ladder come down to percentage, it's unlucky if it does. Top 5 teams can rest players against the bottom 5 teams.


Interesting to hear where your team has been last couple of years on the ladder? You don't go out to drop games that you expect to win do you but it happens. It's not unlucky if you have a chance to do something about it.


I don't play for a team in the SFL anymore but my home club there has been around the mark over the last 8 years.

Getting back to the point that we are all trying to make, the pre-season competition doesn't affect how teams perform come finals time or even during the season. These clubs playing in the pre-season comp may scrap their competitive work and internal trials for these games, i'm sure your side ZC would participate in some sort of internal trial or competitive work?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:44 pm

I'm not sure what you are basing the fact that it wasn't detrimental on? The fact is that both SFL teams that competed had fade outs in finals. Were Brighton a better side than Reynella last year? probably not but at the end of the season they had the fitness and skill to run over them and the week before, Happy Valley. I would have had both Reynella and Valley as harder teams during the year. If it is not for weary legs then you can't tell me a more experienced Reynella and Valley side would get beaten by a young inexperienced Bombers side?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:00 pm

ZC

fact - reynella played terrible in the last half against brighton - therefore they lost.

fact - this had nothing to do with a little preseason comp earlier in the year. nothing!

in fact probaly under half of the players even played the 20/20 comp earlier in the year.

this is going round in circles - i accept your point but dont agree.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:I'm not sure what you are basing the fact that it wasn't detrimental on? The fact is that both SFL teams that competed had fade outs in finals. Were Brighton a better side than Reynella last year? probably not but at the end of the season they had the fitness and skill to run over them and the week before, Happy Valley. I would have had both Reynella and Valley as harder teams during the year. If it is not for weary legs then you can't tell me a more experienced Reynella and Valley side would get beaten by a young inexperienced Bombers side?


Your right ZC, lets blame their 14point loss in the middle of September on the per-season competition they played in! You tool.

Brighton definately weren't a better side than Reynella, a younger side once given a sniff will more often than not run over sides, as you said ZC a young side the bombers, shouldn't they have (in theory) more legs towards the end of the game? Brighton are a good side, they have proven that and played with a nothing to lose attitude throughtout their finals campaign and were better on the day in both circumstances.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:15 pm

We agree to disagree then and I wait with anticipation for september!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:26 pm

I don't think you get it ZC, what happens in september has nothing to do with who has or hasn't played in the pre-season comp so seeing what happens this september won't change a thing.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:42 pm

damian wrote:I don't think you get it ZC, what happens in september has nothing to do with who has or hasn't played in the pre-season comp so seeing what happens this september won't change a thing.


heard the saying " It's like trying to get through to a brick wall? "
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:47 pm

AFLflyer wrote:
damian wrote:I don't think you get it ZC, what happens in september has nothing to do with who has or hasn't played in the pre-season comp so seeing what happens this september won't change a thing.


heard the saying " It's like trying to get through to a brick wall? "


Many times but we always keep trying don't we. Not much point in the conversation anymore is there.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:29 pm

Sorry guys your right the way Morphett Vale have done things for the past 4 years is wrong sorry make that 5 years missed out by a kick on the GF the year before the run so my mistake.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Splinter » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:33 pm

ZC- Are you saying if Morphett Vale were to compete in this preseason competition they would be unsuccessful come September? In my opinion they are good enough to handle a few more weeks of football!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:35 pm

Thankyou splinter!

ZC-I don't think anyone has said Morphett vale has done anything wrong with their pre-season, all everyone is trying to say is this competition doesnt have an impact on the teams season.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:37 pm

No, I'm saying that some of the teams that don't have the depth that Morphett Vale do shouldn't be putting an emphasis on competitive work that early in the year. February is for getting K's in the legs and building aerobic fitness, match fitness comes in the trials. I don't think you can push the players as hard during the week at training if they are playing a match every weekend.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:38 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:Sorry guys your right the way Morphett Vale have done things for the past 4 years is wrong sorry make that 5 years missed out by a kick on the GF the year before the run so my mistake.


are you going for the longest sentence in the world? which doesn't make sense? and missing the point again all at the smae time. Your good!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:46 pm

AFLflyer wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:Sorry guys your right the way Morphett Vale have done things for the past 4 years is wrong sorry make that 5 years missed out by a kick on the GF the year before the run so my mistake.


are you going for the longest sentence in the world? which doesn't make sense? and missing the point again all at the smae time. Your good!


Ahh. Once again. No valid information to contribute just a weak attack. Have I put enough full stops in so you don't strain yourself? I'm entitled to my opinion. Personally, I think starting that early is a waste of time. The competition is 1 yr old if any of the contestant's win a flag come Finals I'll eat my words but until then that's my opinion.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby damian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:02 pm

ZC just doesn't get it does he..
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