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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:40 pm

On SEN this morning Chuck called for Patterson to replace Khawaja and Connelly to replace marsh (left arm orthodox) as a point of difference to Lyon.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:41 pm

whufc wrote:I reckon Abbott gets the nod and well deserved for everything he has been through

Richardson would be tempting but maybe a bit risky without a genuine fifth bowler

Abbott could also be earmarked for the Sri Lanka tour, play the 2 spinners with Cummins and Starc. Bat Carey at 6 and Abbott at 7 especially given how well Pat is batting at 8.


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Jim05 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:06 pm

Armchair expert wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I’m doubting Starc plays Friday, who plays in his spot?
Abbott will probably get the gig.
Maybe Richardson


It will be Abbott, he replaces Marsh.

I hate it but that is what will happen.
Marsh won’t be dropped

From Ronnie today

But McDonald insists Marsh’s place in the Test team is not under threat and that his limited overs this series has nothing to do with lingering injury concerns.

“There’s no concern. And I think people have probably been reading too much into that,” McDonald said.

“We haven’t required him with the ball as often as what we would have thought.

“He bowled again (on day five). His speeds were up in the high 120s, there are no injury concerns there.

“So I think to sort of head down that angle is a little bit unfair.

“We just haven’t required him at certain times for whatever reason. So that’s more a tactical implementation, as opposed to a body.”

“He’s in a good space,” McDonald added. “Would he like better performances? There’s no doubt about that. Over four Test matches, he hasn’t been able to deliver at the level he would like and we would like. But yeah, I mean, he’s up and about.”

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:21 pm

Yep, Marsh is safe for now.

Unchanged for Sydney unless Starc doesn’t come up, then probably Richardson comes in.

Can’t change a winning team. ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:39 pm

Gavaskar says Jaiswal didn’t hit it, was just an optical illusion :lol:

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/cr ... 218f50fe43

Australia vs India: Visitors not winning any friends with temper tantrum over DRS

India cricket’s childish temper tantrum about technology supposedly conspiring against them isn’t winning the tourists any new friends.

Never shy about blowing their own trumpet whenever they do win on the field, India’s incessant bleating about the DRS decision that went against them in their 184-run loss to Australia in Melbourne bears all the trademarks of a playground bully crying foul when they don’t get their own way.

To be fair, the Indians are right that the technology, particularly snicko, isn’t perfect and has its obvious flaws. But their disproportionate dummy spit isn’t befitting of one of the most idolised teams in all sports.

There’s no doubt whatsoever that Yashasvi Jaiswal made clear contact with the ball delivered by Pat Cummins and the third umpire Sharfadoullah was entirely right to give him out.

Immensely talented, Jaiswal had every reason to feel unlucky after his brave occupation of the crease, but the correct ruling was made.

The only person braver was perhaps Sharfadoullah because most officials have been too scared to stand up against India ever since the white flag was raised during the 2008 “Monkeygate” scandal involving Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh and Australian all-rounder, the late Andrew Symonds.

The most recent reminder was when Virat Kohli got slapped with a lettuce leaf after his boorish collision with Aussie teenager Sam Konstas on day one at the MCG.

Kohli was lucky not to be suspended, but the most sinister blunder that’s occurred during this series is India’s sour response to the overturned DRS decision, with their captain Rohit Sharma, the BCCI’s vice president Rajeev Shukla and batting legend Sunil Gavaskar all whining about the ruling.

Gavaskar, the Indian batting legend whom the Border-Gavaskar series is co-named after, is at risk of becoming a social media meme after his absurd claim the deflection from Jaiswal was a mirage.

“Yes it looked like it might have gone off the glove but there can be an optical illusion,” Gavaskar said.

“Often we see when the ball is brand new, that the ball goes near the bat’s edge and then moves away, and that is because, you know, the optical illusion from those watching here is that it has taken a nick.”

The first player to score 10,000 Test runs, Gavaskar’s eyesight was never questioned when he was opening the batting for his country, though his impartiality has been scrutinised at times.

In 1981, when he was captaining his country against Australia at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, Gavaskar threatened to take his team off the field and abandon the match after he disagreed at being given out lbw, although years later he said he was protesting at the Australian players for giving him a spray.

The Indians have consistently opposed the introduction of DRS technology, right back to when the Little Master Sachin Tendulkar himself was playing, even though it has worked in their favour on occasions.

India’s greatest player, Tendulkar remains a sceptic of DRS technology despite famously getting a reprieve thanks to the review system at the 2011 World Cup, won by India.

Initially given out lbw in the semi-final against Pakistan, Tendulkar got a second chance and went on to make a matchwinning 85.

Just starting out on his international career, Kohli was one of Tendulkar’s teammates in that same match.

Now getting towards the end, Kohli has also been a fierce opponent of technology and just recently blew up about another decision that went against India in the second test in Adelaide.

Aware of the enormous and fanatical following he commands, the impact to Kohli’s gripes have been swift and predictable, with an army of Indians now labelling Aussies as cheats on social media. There’s plenty to admire about India’s win-at-all costs approach to cricket but they won’t win any popularity contests.

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby locky801 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:40 pm

dedja wrote:Yep, Marsh is safe for now.



well Ashton Agar says Bison is in the best 6 batsman in Australia so it must be true

Have said it time and time again, dont rate him as a test batsman/allrounder but is an exceptional one day/T20 player
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:45 pm

locky801 wrote:
dedja wrote:Yep, Marsh is safe for now.



well Ashton Agar says Bison is in the best 6 batsman in Australia so it must be true

Have said it time and time again, dont rate him as a test batsman/allrounder but is an exceptional one day/T20 player


Didn’t say I agree with it, I’m just the messenger X_X

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:57 pm

dedja wrote:Gavaskar says Jaiswal didn’t hit it, was just an optical illusion :lol:

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/cr ... 218f50fe43

Australia vs India: Visitors not winning any friends with temper tantrum over DRS

India cricket’s childish temper tantrum about technology supposedly conspiring against them isn’t winning the tourists any new friends.

Never shy about blowing their own trumpet whenever they do win on the field, India’s incessant bleating about the DRS decision that went against them in their 184-run loss to Australia in Melbourne bears all the trademarks of a playground bully crying foul when they don’t get their own way.

To be fair, the Indians are right that the technology, particularly snicko, isn’t perfect and has its obvious flaws. But their disproportionate dummy spit isn’t befitting of one of the most idolised teams in all sports.

There’s no doubt whatsoever that Yashasvi Jaiswal made clear contact with the ball delivered by Pat Cummins and the third umpire Sharfadoullah was entirely right to give him out.

Immensely talented, Jaiswal had every reason to feel unlucky after his brave occupation of the crease, but the correct ruling was made.

The only person braver was perhaps Sharfadoullah because most officials have been too scared to stand up against India ever since the white flag was raised during the 2008 “Monkeygate” scandal involving Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh and Australian all-rounder, the late Andrew Symonds.

The most recent reminder was when Virat Kohli got slapped with a lettuce leaf after his boorish collision with Aussie teenager Sam Konstas on day one at the MCG.

Kohli was lucky not to be suspended, but the most sinister blunder that’s occurred during this series is India’s sour response to the overturned DRS decision, with their captain Rohit Sharma, the BCCI’s vice president Rajeev Shukla and batting legend Sunil Gavaskar all whining about the ruling.

Gavaskar, the Indian batting legend whom the Border-Gavaskar series is co-named after, is at risk of becoming a social media meme after his absurd claim the deflection from Jaiswal was a mirage.

“Yes it looked like it might have gone off the glove but there can be an optical illusion,” Gavaskar said.

“Often we see when the ball is brand new, that the ball goes near the bat’s edge and then moves away, and that is because, you know, the optical illusion from those watching here is that it has taken a nick.”

The first player to score 10,000 Test runs, Gavaskar’s eyesight was never questioned when he was opening the batting for his country, though his impartiality has been scrutinised at times.

In 1981, when he was captaining his country against Australia at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, Gavaskar threatened to take his team off the field and abandon the match after he disagreed at being given out lbw, although years later he said he was protesting at the Australian players for giving him a spray.

The Indians have consistently opposed the introduction of DRS technology, right back to when the Little Master Sachin Tendulkar himself was playing, even though it has worked in their favour on occasions.

India’s greatest player, Tendulkar remains a sceptic of DRS technology despite famously getting a reprieve thanks to the review system at the 2011 World Cup, won by India.

Initially given out lbw in the semi-final against Pakistan, Tendulkar got a second chance and went on to make a matchwinning 85.

Just starting out on his international career, Kohli was one of Tendulkar’s teammates in that same match.

Now getting towards the end, Kohli has also been a fierce opponent of technology and just recently blew up about another decision that went against India in the second test in Adelaide.

Aware of the enormous and fanatical following he commands, the impact to Kohli’s gripes have been swift and predictable, with an army of Indians now labelling Aussies as cheats on social media. There’s plenty to admire about India’s win-at-all costs approach to cricket but they won’t win any popularity contests.



Clickbait article for skippys.... news.com.au at it's best/worse
Article fails to mention that Sharma also said it looked out but the snicko technology made it confusing (or words to that effect)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:03 pm

I mentioned in an earlier post that Sharma quite rightly questioned snicko, but acknowledged that Jaiswal hit it.

I only posted this article for the Gavaskar comedy value … :lol:

By the way, snicko was developed and is run by BBG Sports, which by the looks of it is a tiny company with a handful of people but with huge sporting contracts worldwide. They also do hotspot.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:04 pm

dedja wrote:I mentioned in an earlier post that Sharma quite rightly questioned snicko, but acknowledged that Jaiswal hit it.

I only posted this article for the Gavaskar comedy value … :lol:

By the way, snicko was developed and is run by BBG Sports, which by the looks of it is a tiny company with a handful of people but with huge sporting contracts worldwide. They also do hotspot.


I know you did just this article failed to state it, as I said click bait designed to get hits and comments.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:04 pm

Team for the 1st ashes test will be exactly the same as Boxing day but Green replacing Marsh
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Brodlach » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:12 pm

Uzi would have retired by next Ashes
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:30 pm

Brodlach wrote:Uzi would have retired by next Ashes


He isnt retiring, he's got no T20 future, he's hanging on until they drop him, the selectors have already shown he's going no where
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby stan » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:43 pm

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/e ... a3b0f396f2

This article from fox cricket quotes and article written in the Indian Express. If any of that is correct, then it would seem there could be some changes coming up in that team

Edit:

Found the link to the original article.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... s-9753802/
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby spell_check » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:39 pm

Does anyone think if it was one of our batsmen (instead of Jasiwal) being dismissed that way, Indian fans would be saying it's not out because Snicko says so?
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby stan » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:57 pm

spell_check wrote:Does anyone think if it was one of our batsmen (instead of Jasiwal) being dismissed that way, Indian fans would be saying it's not out because Snicko says so?
Come on, we all know what they would be saying. They'd still be calling us cheats and referring to sandpaper every time there is an article about the match.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby spell_check » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:22 pm

stan wrote:
spell_check wrote:Does anyone think if it was one of our batsmen (instead of Jasiwal) being dismissed that way, Indian fans would be saying it's not out because Snicko says so?
Come on, we all know what they would be saying. They'd still be calling us cheats and referring to sandpaper every time there is an article about the match.


Yeah, because he should have walked, that's right. Sandpaper convict kings of cricket.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:46 am

spell_check wrote:
stan wrote:
spell_check wrote:Does anyone think if it was one of our batsmen (instead of Jasiwal) being dismissed that way, Indian fans would be saying it's not out because Snicko says so?
Come on, we all know what they would be saying. They'd still be calling us cheats and referring to sandpaper every time there is an article about the match.


Yeah, because he should have walked, that's right. Sandpaper convict kings of cricket.


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:59 am

stan wrote:https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/explosive-claims-of-indian-dressing-room-blowup-fractures-in-camp/news-story/2c0751952e5ef609ee7e1aa3b0f396f2

This article from fox cricket quotes and article written in the Indian Express. If any of that is correct, then it would seem there could be some changes coming up in that team

Edit:

Found the link to the original article.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... s-9753802/


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:16 am

Have the makers of Snicko come out and said why the contact wasn't picked up.

Was it because it was a pull shot so potentially furthest distance from wherever the mic is?
Was it because the contact was strong enough, i know it was a slower ball bouncer but still?
Are they holding their ground on there wasn't contact despite the footage?

Surely a third umpire can't use snicko going forward, especially if it's not clear as to why the Jaiswal incident wasn't picked up. That puts doubt in any decision going forward.
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