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Re: ASCA

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:30 am

Moe wrote:Nope, not embarrassing.

Embarrassing is sledging and being condescending to a 16yo girl, in section 8.
Embarrassing is your captain not stepping in to say anything.

Your club C777 thinks way too much of itself.


Jeez that's pretty poor.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:47 pm

Section 9 is becoming a problem.
Only 1 game from 4 played this round, the other 3 won by forfeit.
Cove have forfeited 3 games now, Plympton 2, and now Porties join the list.
Playing on the Test match weekend has caused havoc.
Sheidow Park 5ths have now forfeited 4 games in a row. Surely it's time to pull this team out.
Keswick III another team that had to forfeit this round in section 7.

Time for the association to make some decisions.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Booney » Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:32 am

On the back of last years Sec 1 debacle you'd have thought they'd be a little heavy handed this year.
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Re: ASCA

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:38 pm

Moe wrote:Section 9 is becoming a problem.
Only 1 game from 4 played this round, the other 3 won by forfeit.
Cove have forfeited 3 games now, Plympton 2, and now Porties join the list.
Playing on the Test match weekend has caused havoc.
Sheidow Park 5ths have now forfeited 4 games in a row. Surely it's time to pull this team out.
Keswick III another team that had to forfeit this round in section 7.

Time for the association to make some decisions.

Yeah perhaps in hindsight not playing on test match weekend would of been easier for all clubs (and perhaps have tomorrow as a One Day match)? I think from memory the association didn't entertain the idea of changing our fixture? I know our committee voted back in July to play last Saturday instead of on January 4th which obviously ended up happening. Our coach managed to scrape together our D Grade and we had a team together before Cove forfeited.

Talking to the guys from Porties they had quite a few missing due to guys going to the cricket, hence them forfeiting their D Grade and I'm sure other clubs were in a similar position trying to scrape together their bottom side?
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:25 pm

The "spirit of cricket" is dead and buried in lower grades for ASCA.

Brutally bad umpiring is absolutely killing the game.
Soon it will boil over and someone will get hurt.
Blatant cheating and bad sportsmanship is rife.

No one else writes on here, so it won't matter anyway, but it helps me get it off my chest.
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:12 pm

Moe wrote:The "spirit of cricket" is dead and buried in lower grades for ASCA.

Brutally bad umpiring is absolutely killing the game.
Soon it will boil over and someone will get hurt.
Blatant cheating and bad sportsmanship is rife.

No one else writes on here, so it won't matter anyway, but it helps me get it off my chest.


A punch was thrown by a WYC player at a Coromandel umpire on Day 1 of the round just gone. Members of the Exec saw the footage of the punch being thrown and allowed the player to continue playing. It’s a Level 4 offence. Should have been removed but wasn’t. Absolutely gutless at best and bordering on negligent to not enforce the laws of the game. Tribunal is on Tuesday night.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Dr Feel Good » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:04 pm

Section 4? Looked to be a strange result with Coro being 8 down and all out
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:34 pm

storyoftheyear wrote:
Moe wrote:The "spirit of cricket" is dead and buried in lower grades for ASCA.

Brutally bad umpiring is absolutely killing the game.
Soon it will boil over and someone will get hurt.
Blatant cheating and bad sportsmanship is rife.

No one else writes on here, so it won't matter anyway, but it helps me get it off my chest.


A punch was thrown by a WYC player at a Coromandel umpire on Day 1 of the round just gone. Members of the Exec saw the footage of the punch being thrown and allowed the player to continue playing. It’s a Level 4 offence. Should have been removed but wasn’t. Absolutely gutless at best and bordering on negligent to not enforce the laws of the game. Tribunal is on Tuesday night.

Our executive committee are pitiful.
There's some ridiculous things going on in suburban cricket.

I still can't believe the uneveness of section's.
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Re: ASCA

Postby redyellow&blue » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:31 pm

storyoftheyear wrote:
Moe wrote:The "spirit of cricket" is dead and buried in lower grades for ASCA.

Brutally bad umpiring is absolutely killing the game.
Soon it will boil over and someone will get hurt.
Blatant cheating and bad sportsmanship is rife.

No one else writes on here, so it won't matter anyway, but it helps me get it off my chest.


A punch was thrown by a WYC player at a Coromandel umpire on Day 1 of the round just gone. Members of the Exec saw the footage of the punch being thrown and allowed the player to continue playing. It’s a Level 4 offence. Should have been removed but wasn’t. Absolutely gutless at best and bordering on negligent to not enforce the laws of the game. Tribunal is on Tuesday night.


Pretty sure those are the guys that got booted from Fitzroy couple of years back because ... jerks really....

Maybes it's timer for perma bans in cricket.....
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:09 pm

Yep, pretty much that entire side is part of the "Fitzroy" experiment.
There seems to be a repeating theme in the bad umpiring, sportsmanship and blatant cheating in all teams, across all sections.
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:55 pm

Dr Feel Good wrote:Section 4? Looked to be a strange result with Coro being 8 down and all out


Yep that’s the one. Two younger (mid teens) players didn’t play week 2 because their parents didn’t want their CHILD to play in a dangerous situation where an opponent had thrown a punch at one of their teammates, who was umpiring, and was allowed to get away with it by a gutless Executive. I’ve seen the footage and I can’t believe the Exec allowed a player to still play in the game the next week. He hit an umpire and the Exec let him play still. Mind boggling.
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Re: ASCA

Postby Dr Feel Good » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:37 am

What was the outcome of the tribunal?
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Re: ASCA

Postby Booney » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:23 am

I heard there was footage of the incident, did that get viewed?
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:48 pm

Tribunal outcome:

- WYC player who threw a punch at an umpire: 1 game
- WYC player who engaged in verbal: reprimand
- Coromandel captain who engaged in verbal: 2 games
- Coromandel player who engaged in verbal (and had a punch thrown at him): 2 games

What we read into that is throwing a punch at an umpire is less of an offence than verbal. And yes, the footage was viewed and because the punch didnt connect properly, it’s apparently ok.

The Coromandel players admitted their wrongdoing and that they weren’t angels. The WYC players made up completely fabricated lies and then denied their part in it and the tribunal bought it. Even after viewing the footage.

The ASCA Exec are a kangaroo court and a joke.
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Re: ASCA

Postby redyellow&blue » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:29 pm

storyoftheyear wrote:Tribunal outcome:

- WYC player who threw a punch at an umpire: 1 game
- WYC player who engaged in verbal: reprimand
- Coromandel captain who engaged in verbal: 2 games
- Coromandel player who engaged in verbal (and had a punch thrown at him): 2 games


What we read into that is throwing a punch at an umpire is less of an offence than verbal. And yes, the footage was viewed and because the punch didnt connect properly, it’s apparently ok.

The Coromandel players admitted their wrongdoing and that they weren’t angels. The WYC players made up completely fabricated lies and then denied their part in it and the tribunal bought it. Even after viewing the footage.

The ASCA Exec are a kangaroo court and a joke.


The ****?

What is this? inverse reality week or something?
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Re: ASCA

Postby Moe » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:00 pm

redyellow&blue wrote:
storyoftheyear wrote:Tribunal outcome:

- WYC player who threw a punch at an umpire: 1 game
- WYC player who engaged in verbal: reprimand
- Coromandel captain who engaged in verbal: 2 games
- Coromandel player who engaged in verbal (and had a punch thrown at him): 2 games


What we read into that is throwing a punch at an umpire is less of an offence than verbal. And yes, the footage was viewed and because the punch didnt connect properly, it’s apparently ok.

The Coromandel players admitted their wrongdoing and that they weren’t angels. The WYC players made up completely fabricated lies and then denied their part in it and the tribunal bought it. Even after viewing the footage.

The ASCA Exec are a kangaroo court and a joke.


The ****?

What is this? inverse reality week or something?

The tribunal who made these decisions must be watching the AFL too much where striking gets less than a bump or calling someone names.

WYC committee should come down on their own player's harder than the useless ASCA executive committee.

Verbal abuse is not condoned, but in the 5 games I've played in this season thus far, the blatant cheating and horrific sportsmanship has led to some near stoushes. I've played in sections 7, 8 & 9, it's rife everywhere.
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:19 pm

Moe wrote:
redyellow&blue wrote:
storyoftheyear wrote:Tribunal outcome:

- WYC player who threw a punch at an umpire: 1 game
- WYC player who engaged in verbal: reprimand
- Coromandel captain who engaged in verbal: 2 games
- Coromandel player who engaged in verbal (and had a punch thrown at him): 2 games


What we read into that is throwing a punch at an umpire is less of an offence than verbal. And yes, the footage was viewed and because the punch didnt connect properly, it’s apparently ok.

The Coromandel players admitted their wrongdoing and that they weren’t angels. The WYC players made up completely fabricated lies and then denied their part in it and the tribunal bought it. Even after viewing the footage.

The ASCA Exec are a kangaroo court and a joke.


The ****?

What is this? inverse reality week or something?

The tribunal who made these decisions must be watching the AFL too much where striking gets less than a bump or calling someone names.

WYC committee should come down on their own player's harder than the useless ASCA executive committee.

Verbal abuse is not condoned, but in the 5 games I've played in this season thus far, the blatant cheating and horrific sportsmanship has led to some near stoushes. I've played in sections 7, 8 & 9, it's rife everywhere.


Couldn’t agree more Moe. The ASCA Exec are delusional. How can they give a lesser ban, just 1 week, for throwing a punch at an umpire? How??
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Re: ASCA

Postby storyoftheyear » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:23 pm

redyellow&blue wrote:
storyoftheyear wrote:Tribunal outcome:

- WYC player who threw a punch at an umpire: 1 game
- WYC player who engaged in verbal: reprimand
- Coromandel captain who engaged in verbal: 2 games
- Coromandel player who engaged in verbal (and had a punch thrown at him): 2 games


What we read into that is throwing a punch at an umpire is less of an offence than verbal. And yes, the footage was viewed and because the punch didnt connect properly, it’s apparently ok.

The Coromandel players admitted their wrongdoing and that they weren’t angels. The WYC players made up completely fabricated lies and then denied their part in it and the tribunal bought it. Even after viewing the footage.

The ASCA Exec are a kangaroo court and a joke.


The ****?

What is this? inverse reality week or something?


Inverse reality week and “buy WYC lies and suspend the opposition with no evidence yet only give one week to someone who threw a punch at an umpire which highlights how incompetent the Exec are”… week
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Re: ASCA

Postby V0ice0fthev0iceless » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:21 pm

It is deeply concerning that violence against an opposition player standing in as an umpire is seemingly treated as a minor offense at the association level, based on this decision.

Despite clear video evidence of the incident, there has been an alarming lack of care shown toward the victim. This not only impacts the individual involved but also creates a ripple effect, with players fearing for their safety in subsequent games. The competition’s failure to take appropriate action directly contradicts its own bylaws.

The ASCA executive appears to make arbitrary decisions without considering the precedent they are setting. What would happen if, this weekend, a player disagreed with a decision and assaulted an official association umpire, with the incident caught on Frogbox? Based on this case, the offender could point to precedent and receive nothing more than a one-week suspension.

It is inconceivable that such conduct would not warrant a season-long suspension at the very least.

This kind of leniency undermines participation in the sport. Players who dedicate their Saturdays to the game may now find themselves playing in fear for their safety—an entirely unacceptable situation that could drive them away from the sport altogether.

This is a disgraceful outcome.
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Re: ASCA

Postby redyellow&blue » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:17 am

Who would have thought that one day amateur cricket would be more violent than footy...
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