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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby bennymacca » Mon May 16, 2016 11:34 am

cracka wrote:Who have Port lost to this year,is it GWS, Geelong, Crows & Carlton. Considering those players injured etc it's not that bad, is it?


Reckon it's more the way they have lost.

But as I said they certainly have he talent to turn it around.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby helicopterking » Mon May 16, 2016 11:39 am

Zartan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Lobbe got dropped and Carlisle is average at best. Same with monfries. Good player but not a world beater.

Yes, you're right, but then you've got to put into context what impact their presence would have in the side, and if they're better than some others in the side - if the side is better with them available then clearly they're losses.

The loss of a genuine ruck showed yesterday I thought, Port were smashed in the centre.


It's not going to get any easier in the Ruck for Port this weekend.
In saying that, makes it easier for your on ballers when you know you won't win a hit out.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Booney » Mon May 16, 2016 11:39 am

cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:So due to injuries and suspensions your list is now not good enough to beat Carlton?

Has to be more to it than that.

Reckon your midfield has all taken a step back and that's the real issue. How many of them can say they have even stayed the same as last year? Not too many.

Gray is about the only one that can hold his head high in that group.


Ryder, Monfries, Lobbe, Schulz, Gray and Carlile missing.

Two lead ruckman, full forward, full back, best on baller.

I agree with u boon, 5 of those 6 back in makes a totally different side.


Yep, we're not talking one or 2, we're talking +/- 20% of the best team we could field.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby cracka » Mon May 16, 2016 11:40 am

JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Carlton don't have the talent this year.

On form so far this year the crows look easily the best out of those teams you mentioned.

If Melbourne can start getting consistent they could easily make it. But I reckon they are 1 year away.

Port look in terrible form but being 4-4 and not playing well has to be cause for optimism, as it is a good base for them to launch from. Last year they came from too far back.


There was a bit to like about Richmond the other night ... Too late for them to make a run at the last spot in the 8?

Didn't they win 9 in a row a couple of years ago to just scrape in.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby JK » Mon May 16, 2016 11:49 am

cracka wrote:
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Carlton don't have the talent this year.

On form so far this year the crows look easily the best out of those teams you mentioned.

If Melbourne can start getting consistent they could easily make it. But I reckon they are 1 year away.

Port look in terrible form but being 4-4 and not playing well has to be cause for optimism, as it is a good base for them to launch from. Last year they came from too far back.


There was a bit to like about Richmond the other night ... Too late for them to make a run at the last spot in the 8?

Didn't they win 9 in a row a couple of years ago to just scrape in.


Yep 2014. Freo away next week followed by the Bombers. IF they can win both, they'll be 4-6 and possibly closer to the 8 than they are currently are (2 wins + %age).
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Booney » Mon May 16, 2016 11:55 am

helicopterking wrote:
Zartan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Lobbe got dropped and Carlisle is average at best. Same with monfries. Good player but not a world beater.

Yes, you're right, but then you've got to put into context what impact their presence would have in the side, and if they're better than some others in the side - if the side is better with them available then clearly they're losses.

The loss of a genuine ruck showed yesterday I thought, Port were smashed in the centre.


It's not going to get any easier in the Ruck for Port this weekend.
In saying that, makes it easier for your on ballers when you know you won't win a hit out.


It's not just the hitouts. Port won the clearances yesterday, ( +2 ), it's the hitouts to advantage that kill us. Many of our clearances yesterday were Trengove throwing the ball in his boot, or Wines barreling through, Carltons were Cripps/Gibbs to a runner in space and away.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby JK » Mon May 16, 2016 11:56 am

Nic Nat leads Hitouts to advantage doesn't he?
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Booney » Mon May 16, 2016 11:58 am

On a side note, who else has noticed the best player lists in the paper over the last few weeks?

I'm not sure they watch the same game as me sometimes, this mornings had Young as our best, while worthy of a mention surely Wines was Ports best yesterday? He was listed third best.

A couple of weeks ago they had B Crouch in against the Dogs....
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Booney » Mon May 16, 2016 12:00 pm

JK wrote:Nic Nat leads Hitouts to advantage doesn't he?


I'd imagine so, yes.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby JK » Mon May 16, 2016 12:01 pm

Booney wrote:On a side note, who else has noticed the best player lists in the paper over the last few weeks?

I'm not sure they watch the same game as me sometimes, this mornings had Young as our best, while worthy of a mention surely Wines was Ports best yesterday? He was listed third best.

A couple of weeks ago they had B Crouch in against the Dogs....


I saw most of your game yesterday and probably would have gone with Young too (or Hartlett). Wines was good, still below levels he's been at previously though (that might have more to do with his onball partners being down).
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby stan » Mon May 16, 2016 12:05 pm

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:Nic Nat leads Hitouts to advantage doesn't he?


I'd imagine so, yes.

Yes and we are the best flat track bullies in the league.

Tigers at home and lambs abroad. But we your boys this week. Massive chance for a very badly needed interstate win.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby The Bedge » Mon May 16, 2016 12:08 pm

JK wrote:I saw most of your game yesterday and probably would have gone with Young too (or Hartlett). Wines was good, still below levels he's been at previously though (that might have more to do with his onball partners being down).

Poor Wines seemed to be playing a lone hand yesterday in the middle.. are the rest of Port's midfield afraid to get their hands dirty?

Also wouldn't mind seeing Krakouer play higher - elite ball user, rarely misses a target and can give it a fair roost, might actually be able to spot a target I50 or kick a long range goal.

Port shot themselves in the foot yesterday trying to do the unselfish thing and centre balls etc, and didn't hit their targets - should've been well in front at half time and no contest.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Booney » Mon May 16, 2016 12:28 pm

Zartan wrote:
JK wrote:I saw most of your game yesterday and probably would have gone with Young too (or Hartlett). Wines was good, still below levels he's been at previously though (that might have more to do with his onball partners being down).

Poor Wines seemed to be playing a lone hand yesterday in the middle.. are the rest of Port's midfield afraid to get their hands dirty?

Also wouldn't mind seeing Krakouer play higher - elite ball user, rarely misses a target and can give it a fair roost, might actually be able to spot a target I50 or kick a long range goal.

Port shot themselves in the foot yesterday trying to do the unselfish thing and centre balls etc, and didn't hit their targets - should've been well in front at half time and no contest.


Krakouer sets up our back half, him at home allows Pittard and DBJ the scope to run, having said that I agree with you. He reads the play well, is better overhead than his size suggests he would be and is without question the best kick in our back half over 35-45m. ( I think Broadbent and Pittard are better with 50m+ legs ).
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby valleys07 » Mon May 16, 2016 12:50 pm

Booney wrote:It's not just the hitouts. Port won the clearances yesterday, ( +2 ), it's the hitouts to advantage that kill us. Many of our clearances yesterday were Trengove throwing the ball in his boot, or Wines barreling through, Carltons were Cripps/Gibbs to a runner in space and away.


Yep. 20 hitouts to advantage compared to 7.

Once again our work rate stopped. Collectively our midfield group was very average yesterday.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby cracka » Mon May 16, 2016 12:53 pm

valleys07 wrote:
Booney wrote:It's not just the hitouts. Port won the clearances yesterday, ( +2 ), it's the hitouts to advantage that kill us. Many of our clearances yesterday were Trengove throwing the ball in his boot, or Wines barreling through, Carltons were Cripps/Gibbs to a runner in space and away.


Yep. 20 hitouts to advantage compared to 7.

Once again our work rate stopped. Collectively our midfield group was very average yesterday.

Must be something in the water here.
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Dutchy » Mon May 16, 2016 2:41 pm

Shessh the view is nice up here 8)
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Brodlach » Mon May 16, 2016 3:01 pm

Dutchy wrote:Shessh the view is nice up here 8)


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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby MW » Mon May 16, 2016 3:03 pm

Dutchy wrote:Shessh the view is nice up here 8)


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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby Spargo » Mon May 16, 2016 5:33 pm

Luke Parker should buy a lottery ticket after not even being sighted for a late, intentional, head high hit.
The umpire awarded 50m but the MRP seemed to have "overlooked" it...
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Re: Round 8, mate.

Postby stan » Mon May 16, 2016 5:39 pm

Spargo wrote:Luke Parker should buy a lottery ticket after not even being sighted for a late, intentional, head high hit.
The umpire awarded 50m but the MRP seemed to have "overlooked" it...

Are you surprised?
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