AFL Reserves Discussion...

[Mickyj]

Yep there would be more spots available if Port dont get to keep their zones but remember Ports grand master plan is based on keeping everything as is, thats what i think the article is basing it on.

That reliable cough cough media outlet 7 was reporting what I said !!
Eagles and Centrals in the same boat with Port!!

[kickinit]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-afl-reserves-bid-could-reduce-opportunities-for-local-players-clubs-say/story-fnii00qw-1226670051416

wouldn't there be more spots available, because down the road there will be a new team playing? Spots at jnr level won't change (unless port lose their zone). There will be more spots available at eagles just across port road, and more spots at centrals 15mins down the northern expressway.

Not if port keep their junior zones and those lads can't play for Centrals etc because they will be zoned to the pafc, and there will be less spots in the Magpies league side as the AFL listed players will have priority

while they are jnr's they will have to play for the magpies but once they are at snr level they can move to a different club. How many jnr's actually play league ATM? and wouldn't you think if a kid is good enough to play league footy then port would want the chance to see him at league as a draft prospect.

[kickinit]

Yep there would be more spots available if Port dont get to keep their zones but remember Ports grand master plan is based on keeping everything as is, thats what i think the article is basing it on.

how would there be more spots? that means the other 8 SANFL clubs would have to pick 100 extra kids between them.

[cennals05]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-afl-reserves-bid-could-reduce-opportunities-for-local-players-clubs-say/story-fnii00qw-1226670051416

wouldn't there be more spots available, because down the road there will be a new team playing? Spots at jnr level won't change (unless port lose their zone). There will be more spots available at eagles just across port road, and more spots at centrals 15mins down the northern expressway.

Not if port keep their junior zones and those lads can't play for Centrals etc because they will be zoned to the pafc, and there will be less spots in the Magpies league side as the AFL listed players will have priority

I think you may find the SA commission wants Port to modify its plan before it goes to the SANFL !!
BYE BYE Port zone

Correct.

[whufc]

Ok ill put what i think the article is trying to say in simple terms.

On the weekend the Port Adelaide Magpies had 4 Port Power players playing in its leagues side (there may have been a couple others but i left them out as i was unsure)

So essentially there were 17 spots left for Port Magpie Only players.

If Port Magpies become the Port Power reserves they would have had the 4 players plus 5 others who played league level for other clubs (i dont know who played reserves for SANFL clubs that are on a Power list so i didnt include them but if there was any they would be playing league at the Magpies).

This also doesnt include Eagles aligned Power players who had the bye so there is at least another 2 with Mitchell and Salter off the top of my head.

That would have meant 11 spots would be taking up by Power spots (as a bare minimum) and 11 by Magpie players.

As a bare minimum on the weekend there would have been 6 less spots for juniors coming through the grades at Port Magpies to play league football.

What i also think the article is getting at is that players who are stuck playing ressies football on $50 because they cant crack a game ahead of the AFL listed players will go elsewhere like country etc etc.

I couldnt care whether the Power keep their zones because if they and the Crows come in im gone anyway, im just clarifying how i understood the article.

[heater31]

Ok ill put what i think the article is trying to say in simple terms.

On the weekend the Port Adelaide Magpies had 4 Port Power players playing in its leagues side (there may have been a couple others but i left them out as i was unsure)

So essentially there were 17 spots left for Port Magpie Only players.

If Port Magpies become the Port Power reserves they would have had the 4 players plus 5 others who played league level for other clubs (i dont know who played reserves for SANFL clubs that are on a Power list so i didnt include them but if there was any they would be playing league at the Magpies).

This also doesnt include Eagles aligned Power players who had the bye so there is at least another 2 with Mitchell and Salter off the top of my head.

That would have meant 11 spots would be taking up by Power spots (as a bare minimum) and 11 by Magpie players.

As a bare minimum on the weekend there would have been 6 less spots for juniors coming through the grades at Port Magpies to play league football.

What i also think the article is getting at is that players who are stuck playing ressies football on $50 because they cant crack a game ahead of the AFL listed players will go elsewhere like country etc etc.

I couldnt care whether the Power keep their zones because if they and the Crows come in im gone anyway, im just clarifying how i understood the article.

I'd expect if this sort of scenario does come to fruition, The Jimmy Meiklejohn's & the Sammy Gray type players could name their price for any other SANFL club. In future years any up and coming Port Magpie only player could be poached year after year with the added security of more opportunities for League Football.

That is why South Adelaide recruited Brede Seccull. Both he and South knew that he was never going to get regular game time in the first team at Collingwood in the VFL.


Careful what you wish for Gentlemen.....

[kickinit]

Ok ill put what i think the article is trying to say in simple terms.

On the weekend the Port Adelaide Magpies had 4 Port Power players playing in its leagues side (there may have been a couple others but i left them out as i was unsure)

So essentially there were 17 spots left for Port Magpie Only players.

If Port Magpies become the Port Power reserves they would have had the 4 players plus 5 others who played league level for other clubs (i dont know who played reserves for SANFL clubs that are on a Power list so i didnt include them but if there was any they would be playing league at the Magpies).

This also doesnt include Eagles aligned Power players who had the bye so there is at least another 2 with Mitchell and Salter off the top of my head.

That would have meant 11 spots would be taking up by Power spots (as a bare minimum) and 11 by Magpie players.

As a bare minimum on the weekend there would have been 6 less spots for juniors coming through the grades at Port Magpies to play league football.

What i also think the article is getting at is that players who are stuck playing ressies football on $50 because they cant crack a game ahead of the AFL listed players will go elsewhere like country etc etc.

I couldnt care whether the Power keep their zones because if they and the Crows come in im gone anyway, im just clarifying how i understood the article.

I don't know if it's just me but this how I understand it. when those players come from other clubs that will open up spots on their roster, the total number of sanfl players isn't going to decrease it will actually increase. They will still be able to bring up u/18 and drop players back to ammo's. Port will have less spots to fill as they will automatically have numbers from the power. But in reality it's a void argument. There is no ruling how many jnr's you bring up each year, port could still bring in more jar players then any other club. It all depends on the talent you have playing jnr's and the recruiting a team does in the off season.

[CENTURION]

Just received this tip-off from my "mole" (please don't take it literally )

Apparently, it's already a done deal.

Crows enter the SANFL as the 10th team. Magpies become Power reserves. They lose their reserves and underage teams. Thomas and Co were simply paying lip service to keeping the Magpies structure as it is, which I think we all knew.

The dangling carrot for the SANFL clubs is the reallocation of Ports zone and also the fee that Crows and Power will have to pay.

[heater31]

Just received this tip-off from my "mole" (please don't take it literally )

Apparently, it's already a done deal.

Crows enter the SANFL as the 10th team. Magpies become Power reserves. They lose their reserves and underage teams. Thomas and Co were simply paying lip service to keeping the Magpies structure as it is, which I think we all knew.

The dangling carrot for the SANFL clubs is the reallocation of Ports zone and also the fee that Crows and Power will have to pay.

North and Centrals the front runners to get Port's Country Zone 50/50 between them......

[hereselmo1]

I don't think it will occur but it would be a very sad day if Port lost it's connection to the country zones they have fostered and utilised so well over the years.

[kickinit]

Just received this tip-off from my "mole" (please don't take it literally )

Apparently, it's already a done deal.

Crows enter the SANFL as the 10th team. Magpies become Power reserves. They lose their reserves and underage teams. Thomas and Co were simply paying lip service to keeping the Magpies structure as it is, which I think we all knew.

The dangling carrot for the SANFL clubs is the reallocation of Ports zone and also the fee that Crows and Power will have to pay.

So this was the model that Port have put forward? Sounds more like your "mole" is yanking your carrot or this is what the 8 SANFl clubs want.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I don't think it will occur but it would be a very sad day if Port lost it's connection to the country zones they have fostered and utilised so well over the years.

Sounds like you are giving them up.

[CENTURION]

I can tell you this, it's nowhere NEAR what the SANFL clubs want.

[The Sleeping Giant]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

Someone is yanking something kickinit.

[fester69]

Channel Nine news filmed our members info night at Norwood tonight. As though that watch it will see, Norwood will uncategorically vote NO!!!

[cennals05]

Just received this tip-off from my "mole" (please don't take it literally )

Apparently, it's already a done deal.

Crows enter the SANFL as the 10th team. Magpies become Power reserves. They lose their reserves and underage teams. Thomas and Co were simply paying lip service to keeping the Magpies structure as it is, which I think we all knew.

The dangling carrot for the SANFL clubs is the reallocation of Ports zone and also the fee that Crows and Power will have to pay.

So this was the model that Port have put forward? Sounds more like your "mole" is yanking your carrot or this is what the 8 SANFl clubs want.

No it's not what Port have put forward. It is the model that the commission will take to the directors.

[UK Fan]

Port/crows desire different set ups. Divide and conquer I say.

[UK Fan]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-afl-reserves-bid-could-reduce-opportunities-for-local-players-clubs-say/story-fnii00qw-1226670051416

Nimby minded head in sand ??

[dedja]

I can tell you this, it's nowhere NEAR what the SANFL clubs want.

They're the ones that vote on it ... and it's not what they want? ... and it's a done deal?

Please explain???

[CENTURION]

I can tell you this, it's nowhere NEAR what the SANFL clubs want.

They're the ones that vote on it ... and it's not what they want? ... and it's a done deal?

Please explain???

confused yet?