AFL Reserves Discussion...

[CENTURION]

Players? Last people to listen to. They're concerned for their own careers, not the SANFL in 15 years time.

what about the ones that know they aren't good enough to play AFL?

[smac]

Players? Last people to listen to. They're concerned for their own careers, not the SANFL in 15 years time.

what about the ones that know they aren't good enough to play AFL?

They're still not concerned (in the main) for the whole competition. There will be the odd exception, but really this decision is bigger than the current crop of players.

In 1990, I can't imagine the likes of Chris McDermott having a valid opinion on what the SANFL were doing and can't see why the current crop are any different.

[CUTTERMAN]

I'm not saying that there wouldn't be some vested interest from it but if it was done in confidence some may feel able to not toe the party line, I'm not saying that its a be all and end all of this topic but it'd be more informed than some of the crap being pushed in the media at the moment.
For example, it'd be interesting to hear the view of a Victorian SANFL recruit on his perspective having played for state league clubs in the VFL and SANFL.

[heater31]

I'm not saying that there wouldn't be some vested interest from it but if it was done in confidence some may feel able to not toe the party line, I'm not saying that its a be all and end all of this topic but it'd be more informed than some of the crap being pushed in the media at the moment.
For example, it'd be interesting to hear the view of a Victorian SANFL recruit on his perspective having played for state league clubs in the VFL and SANFL.

Cue Josh Jenkins......

[RB]

I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of some of the Magpie veterans, such as Meiklejohn, Summerton, Slattery, Thurgood etc., as well as Gray and some of the younger guys who probably aren't going to be drafted at any stage, on what they'd think of the Magpies becoming the Power's reserves team.

[Hazydog]

I was amazed when Kym Hodgeman, on 5AA out of the blue said he hoped the crows and power have reserve teams next year...beginning to think it may be a done deal.....hope I'm wrong

they WILL, just not in the SANFL league comp.

In the event they do play in the Reservers comp- The next question would be whether they play for points? Otherwise they would potentially finish 1 & 2 and compromise the Reserves comp, in turn compromising the League comp to an exent.

If it turns out to be the lesser of two evils then so be it I guess...

[Booney]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

[wild dog]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

The current status quo is not a bad thing, but when Port get the entire Power development squad which includes AFL recruited Centrals players and they play against us the following season, that's the f*@#$*g problem.

[saintal]

Maggies have the potential to receive a significant leg up under Koch’s/KT’s proposal if they handle things well. On the other hand it could hinder the PAMs depth a little in the long term, as juniors and fringe players look elsewhere for a league game due to the limited opportunities for the PAMs. Who knows really..

A Crows reserves team on the other hand I can’t see being more than mediocre at league level, depending a little on where the top up players come from and their quality. That doesn’t mean I want them in the comp though..

[saintal]

Players? Last people to listen to. They're concerned for their own careers, not the SANFL in 15 years time.

X2

x3. Most probably wouldnt give a sh*t or appreciate the ramifications of this change happening.

[TimmiesChin]

I'd be interested to see a breakdown on peoples opinions on this issue, grouped by the AFL club they support. Having a quick flick through posts, there seem to be some pretty significant trends.

[Aerie]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

At the very worst if the Reserves scenario comes in, the only way the competition could remain semi-respectable is if Port come in as they propose and the Crows play the bye team for no points. Yes, it would make Port stronger, but at least the competition would remain similar to now. Still the issue of Port Power taking someone like Simon Phillips (for example) in the draft and having him play for the Magpies against Norwood, but at least the Magpies would still be aiming to win. Still not a level playing field though and I can't see the other 8 clubs voting in this scenario as it only makes it more difficult for them.

Crows wouldn't be happy as I imagine playing against them for no points, most senior players in SANFL clubs would have a rest. But under no circumstances can I see the Crows bringing a Reserves team in aiding the SANFL competition and the Crows "taking over" another club would be even worse.

[CUTTERMAN]

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pro ... ns/4565326

Good podcast on the demise of Fitzroy. It's obvious that the same AFL arrogance is just as alive and strong today as it was 18 years ago.

[JK]

I'd be interested to see a breakdown on peoples opinions on this issue, grouped by the AFL club they support. Having a quick flick through posts, there seem to be some pretty significant trends.

Think you're spot on mate, and the same attitudes are reflected through the media and no doubt behind the scenes in the football community. Everyone has an opinion on it. And everyone's opinion matches their own best interest.

[TimmiesChin]

I'd be interested to see a breakdown on peoples opinions on this issue, grouped by the AFL club they support. Having a quick flick through posts, there seem to be some pretty significant trends.

Think you're spot on mate, and the same attitudes are reflected through the media and no doubt behind the scenes in the football community. Everyone has an opinion on it. And everyone's opinion matches their own best interest.

Not everyone, but the vast majority.

[JK]

Yep, close enough.

[The Sleeping Giant]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

Wait, so now you want the Magpies u/16, u/18, reserves and league plus Power reserves? Not gonna happen.

[Dogwatcher]

Can't have your cake and eat it.

[gadj1976]

Is it a correct assumption to make to say this is all a dream by Brenton Sanderson to have the Crows as a standalone reserves team?

If it is, lets cool our heals for a year or so. He wont be at the helm if the Crows keep going the way their going.

[Big Phil]

What did you folks make of David Koch's comments regarding the PAFC?

I saw a snippet on TV, so I'm working from memory here..but he spoke of the PAFC's preferred model put forward to keep the Magpies in tact, zones etc.

He made comment on the thought "AFL clubs are only for themselves" yet the PAFC want to maintain an SANFL presence, have junior development teams and maintain the connection they have with many local grassroots clubs around the state.

I said to a friend on Saturday. Just because a kid plays for Rosewater, ends up in the Magpies development squad, playes 16's, 18's, reserves and league for the Magpies this does not make him an automatic Power listed player. All AFL clubs have access to draft him.

Port want to maintain our SANFL/community structure, why is that seen as such a bad thing?

Wait, so now you want the Magpies u/16, u/18, reserves and league plus Power reserves? Not gonna happen.

Plus, and more importantly, that would be an unfair advantage that the other SANFL clubs would not have...