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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:32 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Yeh I can just see the likes of Brighton/edwardstown travelling all the way to Milang for a c grade game.
Get a grip people.


It's not that far Vulcan, travel time wouldn't be that much different than Brighton to Aldinga. By the way can you tell me how many teams are in the SFL C Grade comp?

Are you serious.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:16 pm

cracka wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Yeh I can just see the likes of Brighton/edwardstown travelling all the way to Milang for a c grade game.
Get a grip people.


It's not that far Vulcan, travel time wouldn't be that much different than Brighton to Aldinga. By the way can you tell me how many teams are in the SFL C Grade comp?

Are you serious.


Absolutely, have you driven to Milang?
Flagstaff Hill - Milang = 45-55 min.
Flagstaff Hill - Aldinga = 35 - 40 min
The only time it takes longer to Milang is if you get a slow truck on Paris Creek Rd but that doesn't happen too often.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Amateur Footy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:40 pm

cracka wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Yeh I can just see the likes of Brighton/edwardstown travelling all the way to Milang for a c grade game.
Get a grip people.


It's not that far Vulcan, travel time wouldn't be that much different than Brighton to Aldinga. By the way can you tell me how many teams are in the SFL C Grade comp?

Are you serious.


I hope he isn't, but I think he is... :shock:
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Vulcan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:09 am

Am just stating they will not do it.
They barely Wonna come as far as Mvale.
Just my opinion just think Milang would win a lot of games by forfeit.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Vulcan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:14 am

Just on your driving from f/hill-Milang,
F/hill-Aldinga.
I'd say the first best part 60 min, the 2nd barely 30 min so yes IMO big difference.
C grade teams in sfl bout 7-8 I think.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Gimp » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:06 am

Bat Pad wrote:
The Gimp wrote:The Country div is a basket case enough as it is! The sooner the Board/Clubs make a proactive move towards a 3 division comp, the better for the comp.
The 3rd div would allow the likes of Milang to compete within their means and probably would've saved Callington from dying!


So Div 3 wouldn't have B Grade sides or juniors then? I don't understand how having a third division helps Milang get juniors and a B grade.

If Milang had A's, B's and colts they would be playing in Country div :roll:
The 3rd div should be for clubs that struggle to fill 2 senior sides and may have enough juniors to fill a side.
Callington
Milang
Sedan Cambrai
Blackwood C's
Macclesfield??

People have to start being open minded about a Hills restructure - everything keeps getting worse every year but it seems the attitude is "that it's OK, things will be better next season".
I've mentioned it before on this forum but I still think there are 3 natural levels of clubs in the Hills and perhaps we should try and align them.
Blackwood
Hahndorf
Mt Barker
Mt Lofty
Lobethal
Onkas
Ironbank
Uraidla? (juniors may be an issue in the future)

Torrens Valley
Echunga
Kersbrook
Birdwood
Bridgewater
Nairne
Meadows
Gumeracha/Kangarilla?? (juniors also an issue)

Macclesfield
Sedan
Milang
Callington
Houghton??
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:48 am

Afterthesiren wrote:
cracka wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Yeh I can just see the likes of Brighton/edwardstown travelling all the way to Milang for a c grade game.
Get a grip people.


It's not that far Vulcan, travel time wouldn't be that much different than Brighton to Aldinga. By the way can you tell me how many teams are in the SFL C Grade comp?

Are you serious.


Absolutely, have you driven to Milang?
Flagstaff Hill - Milang = 45-55 min.
Flagstaff Hill - Aldinga = 35 - 40 min
The only time it takes longer to Milang is if you get a slow truck on Paris Creek Rd but that doesn't happen too often.

I've done Noarlunga to Milang in a semi & that took about an hour & a half.
Anyway the original post was from Brighton to Milang, not Flagstaff Hill to Milang.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Look Good In Leather » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:19 am

rock wrote:Milang need to contact the Southern Football League and try and join their C Grade competition as previously mentioned. It is a well supported division unlike the HFL version.


No issue if Milang play all away games.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Hear the roar » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:12 pm

The recent discussions here make excellent, throught-provoking reading, not just because it involves my club. So many feasible ideas and potential options to me makes mockery of the feeble excuse that C Grade is too hard to arrange.

Milang have a lot of respect from other H.F.L. clubs because they epitomise country footy the way it used to be. It shouldn't take Rocket Science to accomodate them and allow them to play competitive footy each week. They don't embarass the League and they win games.

To me, three divisions is the bleeding obvious solution and has been for years. Another option is to field Bs only, which Milang did successfully in the mid-90's. Many other options from posters here including SFL.

Meanwhile, the League needs to get bums OFF seats and see that a full, competitive side has somewhere to play.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:18 pm

Hear the roar wrote:The recent discussions here make excellent, throught-provoking reading, not just because it involves my club. So many feasible ideas and potential options to me makes mockery of the feeble excuse that C Grade is too hard to arrange.

Milang have a lot of respect from other H.F.L. clubs because they epitomise country footy the way it used to be. It shouldn't take Rocket Science to accomodate them and allow them to play competitive footy each week. They don't embarass the League and they win games.

To me, three divisions is the bleeding obvious solution and has been for years. Another option is to field Bs only, which Milang did successfully in the mid-90's. Many other options from posters here including SFL.

Meanwhile, the League needs to get bums OFF seats and see that a full, competitive side has somewhere to play.


while i admire your passion for your club, there are a couple of issues in your post that must be replied to.

no-one is saying that c grade is too hard to arrange. the hfl are desperate for it to continue, but they cant compel clubs to enter a side in the c grade comp. the reasons why milang can only field one c grade team (player numbers, volunteers) are the same reasons why other teams can only field an a and b grade team, but not a c grade.

on the issue of the three division league, i'm not sure it's as obvious solution as you may think. it's a great option for those clubs in div 1 and 2, but a nightmare for those in div 3. while it would suit milang to be in a div 3 comp, i don't think that sedan, maccy or gums would be quite so happy. it would effectively mean the end of them as a functioning club with no junior teams and maybe one senior team.

i'm not sure where this leaves milang.

the thought of players drifting away from the game cause they cant play is not what we want, but similarly, it's not easy to develop a solution for a club that has one senior team and nothing else. the c grade comp did this, but if the hfl clubs are now having problems fielding c grade teams, then options are limited.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:51 pm

On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby geep8370 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:44 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.


except you can't have A& B grade in one comp and C grade in another SFL want all or none.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:29 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.


easy fixed. just get rid of the high priced imports and give a and b grade games to the blackwood boys who have come up through the junior system.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Moose » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:20 am

Gervais wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.


easy fixed. just get rid of the high priced imports and give a and b grade games to the blackwood boys who have come up through the junior system.

That's what is happening mate. I can tell you for a fact that there's not much coin being thrown around at blackwood these days. I'm pretty confident in saying that Blackwood would be one of the smaller spending clubs playing a lot of local kids!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby chopper7 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:52 am

The Moose wrote:
Gervais wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.


easy fixed. just get rid of the high priced imports and give a and b grade games to the blackwood boys who have come up through the junior system.

That's what is happening mate. I can tell you for a fact that there's not much coin being thrown around at blackwood these days. I'm pretty confident in saying that Blackwood would be one of the smaller spending clubs playing a lot of local kids!

That would be the biggest load of garbage I've heard.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:57 pm

The Moose wrote:
Gervais wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:On another note there's going to be about 25-30 players looking for a game from Blackwoods Cs. If any club was suitable for the SFL C grade comp it would be Blackwood.


easy fixed. just get rid of the high priced imports and give a and b grade games to the blackwood boys who have come up through the junior system.

That's what is happening mate. I can tell you for a fact that there's not much coin being thrown around at blackwood these days. I'm pretty confident in saying that Blackwood would be one of the smaller spending clubs playing a lot of local kids!


are you serious? must be your attempt at an april fools day joke.

if blackwood are playing so many local kids, then why are they requesting (and receiving) additional points from the hfl?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby From The Outer » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:36 pm

Obviously $800 is considered chicken feed up Blackwood way because I know they offered that money this year.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby tomo » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:06 am

The Gimp wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:
The Gimp wrote:The Country div is a basket case enough as it is! The sooner the Board/Clubs make a proactive move towards a 3 division comp, the better for the comp.
The 3rd div would allow the likes of Milang to compete within their means and probably would've saved Callington from dying!


So Div 3 wouldn't have B Grade sides or juniors then? I don't understand how having a third division helps Milang get juniors and a B grade.

If Milang had A's, B's and colts they would be playing in Country div :roll:
The 3rd div should be for clubs that struggle to fill 2 senior sides and may have enough juniors to fill a side.
Callington
Milang
Sedan Cambrai
Blackwood C's
Macclesfield??

People have to start being open minded about a Hills restructure - everything keeps getting worse every year but it seems the attitude is "that it's OK, things will be better next season".
I've mentioned it before on this forum but I still think there are 3 natural levels of clubs in the Hills and perhaps we should try and align them.
Blackwood
Hahndorf
Mt Barker
Mt Lofty
Lobethal
Onkas
Ironbank
Uraidla? (juniors may be an issue in the future)

Torrens Valley
Echunga
Kersbrook
Birdwood
Bridgewater
Nairne
Meadows
Gumeracha/Kangarilla?? (juniors also an issue)

Macclesfield
Sedan
Milang
Callington
Houghton??
Why would Houghton want to leave the SAAFL to join this proposed mini league! Not a chance mate!!!!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Champ » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:28 am

Just a thought.

POTENTIALLY Milang (or ANY other interested group/person/forum poster) could do up a petition to be taken around the HFL game days to see who actually would be interested in a 3 tier comp with potential prototion/relagation etc.

Or another CRAZY CRAZY option could be to look at an 'independant comp' which could play on Sundays perhaps which could solely be for 1 off teams to enter etc.

I only suggested Milang simply because they might have a handful of passionate club people with weekends free this year.

Again just a thought, understand peoples reluctance for change however try to hold back from simply telling all in sundry why something wont work and try offering a solution - which for many is leave it alone and let the weaker clubs/teams die while the stronger get stronger.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Justquietly » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:35 pm

Well, there's been a bit of everything on here but with the season starting this weekend who's looking the goods? With mixed reports about 'players missing' in trials it's hard to tell. TV & Bridgey have recruited fairly hard by the looks but does anyone from the clubs want to weigh into the debate about the quality of recruits?
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