Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2012 - 2013

[Down the Hill]

Same thing happened at Fawk Res in the International vs Flinders Uni LO.C semi-final. We were nervous about International having enough control over a ground they hire to host a final and spoke to both them and ATCA more than a week ago when we were likely semi-final opponents and offered Flinders Uni in case Fawk Res. couldn't be trusted. But Inter and ATCA said game will be at Fawk. Well you guessed it, players arrive on Saturday and it had been watered the day before and a soccer trial match played on it Friday night and then it seems it had more sprinkling overnight. Bowlers run ups were mud and pitch was damaged and unplayable. Umpires said that Inter would go into GF unless we protested so we got David Heyzer down there and in fairness to him he couldn't automatically say that Inter were at fault and couldn't guarantee who would progress until ATCA investigated. Fortunately captains, players, umpires and David all decided that teams could head to Flinders Uni to play the game. We knew at least 2 of our grounds had prepared wickets for school cricket in the morning but didn't know if there were any footy or soccer trials happening. Luckily Flinders No. 3 was available and we played a 27 over match due to lost time. Flinders Uni won quite easily so justice was done but still a disgrace with what transpired.

ATCA has be a lot stronger with finals ground allocations. Clubs 2nd or 3rd grounds should only be used if ATCA is satisfied they are suitable and that the home club can exercise the necessary control over the council etc. And some of these clubs that only field teams in LO grades and hire grounds that they seem to have little control over should not be allowed to host finals.

[Gatt_Weasel]

anyone know where pooraka is playing the grand final yet? is it at pooraka or somewhere else?

[heater31]

anyone know where pooraka is playing the grand final yet? is it at pooraka or somewhere else?

here you go Gatt

Where will the grand finals be played this year in A1 A2 A3 A4?

A1 Payneham
A2 Flinders Park
A3 Brighton
A4 Para Hills

[Trader]

Same thing happened at Fawk Res in the International vs Flinders Uni LO.C semi-final. We were nervous about International having enough control over a ground they hire to host a final and spoke to both them and ATCA more than a week ago when we were likely semi-final opponents and offered Flinders Uni in case Fawk Res. couldn't be trusted. But Inter and ATCA said game will be at Fawk. Well you guessed it, players arrive on Saturday and it had been watered the day before and a soccer trial match played on it Friday night and then it seems it had more sprinkling overnight. Bowlers run ups were mud and pitch was damaged and unplayable. Umpires said that Inter would go into GF unless we protested so we got David Heyzer down there and in fairness to him he couldn't automatically say that Inter were at fault and couldn't guarantee who would progress until ATCA investigated. Fortunately captains, players, umpires and David all decided that teams could head to Flinders Uni to play the game. We knew at least 2 of our grounds had prepared wickets for school cricket in the morning but didn't know if there were any footy or soccer trials happening. Luckily Flinders No. 3 was available and we played a 27 over match due to lost time. Flinders Uni won quite easily so justice was done but still a disgrace with what transpired.

ATCA has be a lot stronger with finals ground allocations. Clubs 2nd or 3rd grounds should only be used if ATCA is satisfied they are suitable and that the home club can exercise the necessary control over the council etc. And some of these clubs that only field teams in LO grades and hire grounds that they seem to have little control over should not be allowed to host finals.

You gotta wonder why the ATCA let these guys in the comp. There are issues with them every season.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Forget A1 to A4, the main game is in C2's this week .

Amazing game for us in our Semi with 8 LBW's out of 10 wickets awarded against us and 11 for the match. 6 LBW's out of 10 wickets for our grand final competitors Walkerville.

Shows you what happens when you don't see an official umpire during the regular season.

Particularly when you get an umpire who has a trigger finger. We had the guy that umpired your game during the season and everytime someone got hit on the pads it was out.

[beeroclock]

Congrates to Pooraka in the A2's completely outplayed us on saturday, they have been the standout side all year and deserve there chance to play unley in the G/F.

Can't win games with only 3 descent bats mate.

[EldersUniSA]

Forget A1 to A4, the main game is in C2's this week .

Amazing game for us in our Semi with 8 LBW's out of 10 wickets awarded against us and 11 for the match. 6 LBW's out of 10 wickets for our grand final competitors Walkerville.

Shows you what happens when you don't see an official umpire during the regular season.

Particularly when you get an umpire who has a trigger finger. We had the guy that umpired your game during the season and everytime someone got hit on the pads it was out.

Lol, well it was unusual but it was a product of the bowling more than anything else I think 19 wickets bowled or LBW so lots of straight bowling which is good for C2 I think.

I just hope the umpires remember that the rule is 100% certainty and doubt goes to the batsman.

I think that to help the watering of oval issue making covers mandatory will help, especially in finals. The cost of covers i think can easily be compensated for by every players desire to play a final fairly.

If you add up the dollars spent not to mention the volunteer hours in the association. Millions.

On a positive note bring on next weekend. Hope it doesn't rain too much. Game of the round has to be the A1 grand final. big 50-50.

[Tony Clifton]

Once again, there is no excuse for sprinklers to water on a friday or saturday! Whether its council operated or by the club it doesnt matter. if the wicket isnt fit for play then the away side win...the end..hopefully?

So a club informs the council that there is a game, council says no worries we'll turn the water off... council forget, power blackout and the controller resests or something and the pitch gets wet. How is that a club's fault?

Onus has to be on the home club to provide a suitable venue.

An email to the council saying "we've got a game" isn't enough.

Clubs should know personally the staff who look after their venue. Have their mobile numbers. Buy them a slab or two during the season. It can't be just a relationship through a council admin worker's email.

[mickey]

Once again, there is no excuse for sprinklers to water on a friday or saturday! Whether its council operated or by the club it doesnt matter. if the wicket isnt fit for play then the away side win...the end..hopefully?

So a club informs the council that there is a game, council says no worries we'll turn the water off... council forget, power blackout and the controller resests or something and the pitch gets wet. How is that a club's fault?

Onus has to be on the home club to provide a suitable venue.

An email to the council saying "we've got a game" isn't enough.

Clubs should know personally the staff who look after their venue. Have their mobile numbers. Buy them a slab or two during the season. It can't be just a relationship through a council admin worker's email.

Buy the council worker a slab or 2 and have them risk their job by breaching the council code of conduct.... good work

[Brumbies]

Has ATCA reached a decision on the two Fulham matches?

Would have thought it would be sorted by now but the A4 and C1 gf''s are still 'TBD' on myCricket.

Especially in C1 where the outcome will decide who hosts the gf and therefore who needs to prepare a wicket.

[BenchedEagle]

Has ATCA reached a decision on the two Fulham matches?

Would have thought it would be sorted by now but the A4 and C1 gf''s are still 'TBD' on myCricket.

Especially in C1 where the outcome will decide who hosts the gf and therefore who needs to prepare a wicket.

Just got word that ATCA ruled that Penfield will take on Trinity in the A4 GF!!!

Fulham will also not be participating in the C1 GF either!

[Willo]

Right decision has been made!

Feel sorry for the Fulham players of both sides, play well all year to earn a home semi final and to go out this way would be heartbreaking.

Unfortunately, ATCA had no other choice.

Bet Fulham next year will be keeping an eye on the sprinkler system come finals times!

[BenchedEagle]

Right decision has been made!

Feel sorry for the Fulham players of both sides, play well all year to earn a home semi final and to go out this way would be heartbreaking.

Unfortunately, ATCA had no other choice.

Bet Fulham next year will be keeping an eye on the sprinkler system come finals times!

Definatly the right decision and now ALL clubs are extra vigilant with their sprinklers. This sets a precedent that you want to host a final, u take on full responsibilty for pitch!

[heater31]

Only issue now is what happens if an opposition club does it to lay the blame on the host club?

[BenchedEagle]

Only issue now is what happens if an opposition club does it to lay the blame on the host club?

How would that work?

[BenchedEagle]

And of course Fulham have appealed the decisions. What a joke.

[heater31]

Only issue now is what happens if an opposition club does it to lay the blame on the host club?

How would that work?

The opposition pour water on the pitch....host club gets the blame and visiting team goes through....

[Trader]

And of course Fulham have appealed the decisions. What a joke.

As they should.

Twice this year in A4 there have been instances of artificially watered pitches and no penalties to the home side.
I also recall a game last year that never got underway and was called a draw.

While I disagree a draw is the correct result here, the precedent is very clear and Fulham should expect it to be enforced.

[Hellboy]

Only issue now is what happens if an opposition club does it to lay the blame on the host club?

How would that work?

The opposition pour water on the pitch....host club gets the blame and visiting team goes through....

Need to defend your pitch

[mickey]

Secretly prepared emergency pitches