HFL Division 1 (Central)

[dangermouse]

Couple of interesting results in Central Div- Any Lofty people, it seems the devils are back on track without having too many inclusions over the past fortnight, if anything the side has gotten weaker on paper, what has contributed to the form reversal?

And Lobey what happened there? Did Birdwood play out of their skin or were the tigers really bad? I've heard that Lobey are as strong if not stronger in personell than last season yet performances have been way under expectations. What's goin on there? If Rooster is still out there how do you rate your team's performance on satdy and also Lobey as a unit?

[Sherrin]

If anyone should be made accountable at HFL quarters would it not be the League Secretary, who is paid for the job as opposed to Uncle Owie, who volunteers?

His car is there more often than not!

When its not in Milang...

[shake'n'bake]

Interesting to note that hahndorf had as many scoring shots as Mt. Barker... Goes to show Barker probably won't push for a top 5 position... I think it's more of a question of what order that top 5 will be!!!

[LVIS]

If anyone should be made accountable at HFL quarters would it not be the League Secretary, who is paid for the job as opposed to Uncle Owie, who volunteers?

His car is there more often than not!

When its not in Milang...

Accountable for what Owen, oops Sherrin? Accountable for the fact that the league president grants permits without going through the proper process. Not sure what your on about.

[FOOTYGODS]

Jon Floreani looks like he settled in straight away...

[The Crumber]

Good call on Echunga - perhaps a little hasty there. Can anyone tell me WTF has happened at Cally??? They WERE competitive against us but seem to have really fallen away last 2 weeks - players left, injuries....?

Can tell you a bit Tex - a combination of being there Sat and some front bar goss for what it's worth. Apparently nearly 2/3 of Cally's A Grade this year work at the mines or in Adelaide. Hardly any locals there anymore. Their availability for footy depends on their roster - 2 wks on and 2 off. And the Troy Bonds etc only want to play when the side's good, thereby contributing to the other 1/3 of the problem. Training numbers follow the rosters also it seems. Spirit was reportedly high after the Nairne game (presume you're a Nairne lad Tex), but has plummetted since. The strange thing about being there Sat was that Cally were not that bad. They were still chasing at the final siren and it seemed incredible that they hadn't scored all day. The big bonus for Echunga though, would have to be Peter Kleeman. I saw this lad play for Milang a few years back and he was at best a potential talent requiring much development. Goes to show how underestimated a player can be when constantly surrounded by mediocre company. Well done to whoever coaxed him to the Demons. A real pleasure to watch. This guy will be a GUN in the finals!

[The Crumber]

If anyone should be made accountable at HFL quarters would it not be the League Secretary, who is paid for the job as opposed to Uncle Owie, who volunteers?

His car is there more often than not!

When its not in Milang...

Accountable for what Owen, oops Sherrin? Accountable for the fact that the league president grants permits without going through the proper process. Not sure what your on about.

Cheers LVIS. Well all I can say in this is that I didn't get a Budget, but I wish I knew what was on page 3. No-one will tell me. Was it a pin-up of the little white dog in a G-string? Everyone I asked had bought a Budget but only bothered with the Team lists on the day and binned the rest. And some had read their own Club Corner. Couldn't even crumb for one today as all the bins at my local ground were locked. I quess the accountability buck in any organisation stops with the President or Chairperson. Never mind who gets paid what.

[LVIS]

If anyone should be made accountable at HFL quarters would it not be the League Secretary, who is paid for the job as opposed to Uncle Owie, who volunteers?

His car is there more often than not!

When its not in Milang...

Accountable for what Owen, oops Sherrin? Accountable for the fact that the league president grants permits without going through the proper process. Not sure what your on about.

Cheers LVIS. Well all I can say in this is that I didn't get a Budget, but I wish I knew what was on page 3. No-one will tell me. Was it a pin-up of the little white dog in a G-string? Everyone I asked had bought a Budget but only bothered with the Team lists on the day and binned the rest. And some had read their own Club Corner. Couldn't even crumb for one today as all the bins at my local ground were locked. I quess the accountability buck in any organisation stops with the President or Chairperson. Never mind who gets paid what.

I can't dig up a copy, but the tone of the comment from the president was very angry, and was not impressed at all about people writing stuff about hills footy on this forum. He made the assumption that anyone who posts on this forum doesn't contribute to football at their own club because they are too busy bagging people. Speaking for myself, I do plenty @ my club. What has been said in the last couple of weeks must have touched a raw nerve with Mr Lampshade, you think after all the stink last year he would have learnt his lesson re player permits.

[oldblueeyes]

The only way Maccy would have got closer to Kersbrook on saturday is if they had the same umpire from the B-grade

[Banker]

Im not trying to stir the pot here but i have the budget here and Owen has to be expecting it to be discussed on here. Just hope it doesnt start a sh!t fight so try and be mature guys

"far too often those of us who voluntarily do one heck of a lot of work, are now openly knocked by face-less people who do nothing. And it hurts."

"Usually it is about some volunteer who busts his or her guts for others, and is always written by someone who will not give their true name. Great."

"I wish we could find out who some of thees people are and their punishment would be to do at least 10 hours of voluntary work each week for 10 years"

I cant recall any volunteers but Owen being 'knocked' on here. And i can only recall 2 members of this site actually personally attacking Owen. Have i missed something and the mods have been through and cleaned it up?

(PM me Owen if you would like my full name and what exactly i have done for my club over the last 15 years...)

[the wonder elephant]

here here banker what a load of crap OWEN you can pm me as well if you want to know what i have done 4 the 2 clubs i have played 4 in the hills as well !!

[Cougar]

well for starters boss man they were not flogged they were competitive all day and if you read what i have written i said we were top 4 full strength we are still without 5 a grade players and i think you will find have gotten closer then anyone else to kersbrook and cougar if you were at the game you would have to agree we were competitive and as for the money thing obviously i dont play there so i can not say for 100% that they are on big bucks and i dont know your position either to know if you would know or not but dont be naive and always believe what you are told because there is such thing as " under the table "

oh yeah boss man how is the club you are from going ???????????????????

I reckon there might be some things going on 'Under the table' when you post on this forum. Have a word with Mick Elliot (Someone from Maccy who knows Hills Football) in regards of Kersbrook FC, $$$$$ and Roger James. You might learn a thing or two. There is a bloke that plays CHF for Meadows who is pretty loyal to his club, and I have no doubt he's been offered big $$$, but opts to stay at Meadows.

[Thunder Down Under]

The comments in the budget that irked me were,

"Unfortunately one of the downfalls of modern times are emails and websites. People are able to put their opinion into the public forum for all to see and not identify themselves. "
and "There is a website floating around called something like "SA country footy forum" and on it you can put any insulting or critical thing you like. Usually it is about some volunteer who busts his or her gut for others, and always written by someone who will not give their true name. Great. NO wonder we are never blessed with enough workers. I wish we could find out who these people are and their punishment would be to do at least 10 hours of voluntary work each week for 10 years !

I think he would be disappointed if he knew who out there involved in the Football world contributed to this sight let alone his two favourite footballers over past seasons.

The majority of the 5491 posts I have found to be of interest although at times it does go off on a tangent. For those who follow HFL football and are away from the area, beit interstate or overseas it is a great tool for keeping up to date and getting the weekend scores. I will be making a point of letting him know who I am next time I see him and explain to him why users have an hidden identity.

To all, keep the posts coming but lets not get too personal, the big "O" is watching !! ( and no talk about Monica )

[Rapper]

Get the sherrin. Im glad it wasn't just me that thought that. I thought DK was excellent. If it was 1970 again I would have duffle coat with Crazy Leb written on the back. He is having a stelar session.

[ball magnet]

Fair call TDU ... maybe it's just a case of the president becoming a little precious in feeling a little pressure, wot with the fiasco re Blackwood finals qualifications last season, together with the failed attempts to change under age groupings, and then impose forfeits for non-club umpires, topped by forgetting to bring the full representative gear to a recent match at Unley. Talk about pressure. I think we all agree the 'Big O' does a great job promoting the sport in our region, but perhaps he should find/allow some help on certain matters on occasions. Dare I read earlier about further underhand permits being issued ... if so, don't people realise they have to play by the rules; just ask another president in Richard Nixon!!!

[The Crumber]

[quote="Thunder Down Under"]The comments in the budget that irked me were,

"Unfortunately one of the downfalls of modern times are emails and websites. People are able to put their opinion into the public forum for all to see and not identify themselves. "
and "There is a website floating around called something like "SA country footy forum" and on it you can put any insulting or critical thing you like. Usually it is about some volunteer who busts his or her gut for others, and always written by someone who will not give their true name. Great. NO wonder we are never blessed with enough workers. I wish we could find out who these people are and their punishment would be to do at least 10 hours of voluntary work each week for 10 years !

I think he would be disappointed if he knew who out there involved in the Football world contributed to this sight let alone his two favourite footballers over past seasons.

The majority of the 5491 posts I have found to be of interest although at times it does go off on a tangent. For those who follow HFL football and are away from the area, beit interstate or overseas it is a great tool for keeping up to date and getting the weekend scores. I will be making a point of letting him know who I am next time I see him and explain to him why users have an hidden identity.

Thanks to all who furnished the elusive page 3 info from last week's Budget.
I whole-heartedly agree that Owen would be very disappointed to know the identity of some of this site's contributors.
The recent discussions here began because of the numerous bogus Letters to the Editor; exactly the same kind of issue he talks so vehemently about. For many years now, he has had the power to print or not print people's opinions, depending on his standpoint on the topic of the time. Those of us who have written very constructive and polite letters have been frustrated over the years to see them blatantly ignored and other ridiculous scribes from non-existent persons filling the page instead. I have given my true name at all times, as have others I know. I have even approached Owen in person when I have felt that constructive and knowledgeable people had not been heard because of his Editorial power.
I don't wish my criticisms to be seen as a personal attack on Mr. L.; rather they are intended as a very critical comment when there seems to be no other way to pass one on. This is not a new issue anyway; it has been simmering for years.

As I see it, Owen has done us all a favour. Hopefully the die-hard HFL lovers who have an intelligent opinion will bring it here, where they can be assured it will be heard, now that they know about us.

And for the record Owen, if you are monitoring - I have done every imaginable job in a footy club over thousands of hours as a volunteer here in the HFL. I've unblocked dunnies in the rain, umpired, sold pasties, collected bottles, been on committees, manned the gate and done everything else you care to name. Never asked for a cent on the ground or off it.
Most serious contributors here have done just the same.

[Mop Up]

I'm going to be the first to admit I wouldn't have the slightest clue how much work Owen has done but i can only assume it is alot and of course we are greatufl for that. But I can onlky judge him on what i know and my only experience of the man is belittling a young Ironbank "Gun" Rookie a couple years ago. He was the clubs choice to be sent out to asociation and once arriving was then made clear to by owen..... " oh your the one the club sent out and we didn't want" or similar to those lines. Not the best way for a "Neutral" league president to present himself I wouldnt of thought.

Aren't the words in the budget attacks on some of the people on this forum anyways??? lil hypocritical i would of thought. esepcially considering the amount of work put into clubs by some people on this forum

On Another matter... is the relegation system being put in place?? i know it was discussed but not sure what came of it? surely its a bad idea... given this year Ironbank wouldve been dropped purely on their A grade perfromance which although they finished bottom they did play alot of rookies which is now having favourable results... And Ironbank is 2nd or 3rd on the Jarret Mazda.... surely a whole club must perform badly over a few years??

[Justquietly]

Bloody hell, away from the desk for a day and look what happens.
LOVE IT! Great discussions, guys. Must admit, when reading the budget at Windy Hill I smirked a little, mainly because of the 'alias' comments, when I'm pretty sure the names in their Letters section aren't really authored by who they say. Slightly hypocritical me thinks.
On the Blackwood game - simply a case of the Woods coming up against a real title threat. They were WAY out of their league. Should have been a bigger margin if...yep, if Lofty had kicked straight.

[Rooster]

And Lobey what happened there? Did Birdwood play out of their skin or were the tigers really bad? I've heard that Lobey are as strong if not stronger in personell than last season yet performances have been way under expectations. What's goin on there? If Rooster is still out there how do you rate your team's performance on satdy and also Lobey as a unit?

All i can say is i know there's a lot of 'should of's' in footy, but Birdwood really 'should of' beaten Lobey on the weekend, we completely dominated the first half, had all the run and the play, but didn't totally capitalize, missed too many easy goals. Then the rain came, and Lobey's slow big bodies came to the front, and pushed ahead. We had also 4 key Agraders out, 2 or which are key forwards and would've made a lot of difference. Very dissapointing, once again 'should of' been Birdwood's first central victory. look out bridgewater.

As for Lobey, old, slow, average. Obviously a few smart old hats running aound still though.

[Cougar]

And Lobey what happened there? Did Birdwood play out of their skin or were the tigers really bad? I've heard that Lobey are as strong if not stronger in personell than last season yet performances have been way under expectations. What's goin on there? If Rooster is still out there how do you rate your team's performance on satdy and also Lobey as a unit?

All i can say is i know there's a lot of 'should of's' in footy, but Birdwood really 'should of' beaten Lobey on the weekend, we completely dominated the first half, had all the run and the play, but didn't totally capitalize, missed too many easy goals. Then the rain came, and Lobey's slow big bodies came to the front, and pushed ahead. We had also 4 key Agraders out, 2 or which are key forwards and would've made a lot of difference. Very dissapointing, once again 'should of' been Birdwood's first central victory. look out bridgewater.

As for Lobey, old, slow, average. Obviously a few smart old hats running aound still though.

If Lobey are Average, what does that make Birdwood??

Have heard though that the Lobey Coach made the players observe a minutes silence in their Club rooms after the loss to Bridgewater. Can anyone confirm that the Lobethal tigers wish to change their name to the Lobethal ANZACs?