Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
by whufc » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:36 pm
Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
by locky801 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:45 pm
whufc wrote:Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
by whufc » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:49 pm
locky801 wrote:whufc wrote:Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
Bats at 6 and gets a ton, cant argue with that but his keeping is well below par particularly to the slower bowlers
by Squids » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:05 pm
by rod_rooster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:15 pm
whufc wrote:Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
by whufc » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:24 pm
by rod_rooster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:22 pm
by heater31 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:31 pm
rod_rooster wrote:whufc wrote:Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
You could give the gloves to any of the top 6 bats and they'd do as well as Wade at the moment. Sure he batted well but he is beyond dreadful with the gloves. If he gets picked as a batsman then fine but it's got to the point where a competent gloveman is required.
As has previously been said on the subject, any of the other options are capable with the bat. Sure not as good as Wade but their job is to keep not bat. Easy to say Wade's runs outweigh his mistakes in this match but had the two guys he dropped gone on to make big big tons then what would be said? Only a matter of time before a simple mistake costs the team big time. He's just been lucky to this point.
For a quick comparison, the fill in keeper for Sri Lanka (who hasn't kept for over a year) has out kept Wade in this match by miles. Wade has made him look like Ian Healy (as a keeper not commentator).
by Jim05 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:39 pm
Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
by whufc » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:49 pm
rod_rooster wrote:We've got 4 Tests in India first and Wade can't keep up to the stumps. He's ordinary even standing back anyway but in India you can't carry a bloke that can't keep to spin.
by rod_rooster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:56 pm
heater31 wrote:rod_rooster wrote:whufc wrote:Squids wrote:Wade is a terrible keeper as I have been saying for ages, search my posts if you like.
Dont think anyone is saying Wade is a decent keeper.
I think the argument is whether to play the keeper 'batsmen', or the 'specialist' keeper.
You could give the gloves to any of the top 6 bats and they'd do as well as Wade at the moment. Sure he batted well but he is beyond dreadful with the gloves. If he gets picked as a batsman then fine but it's got to the point where a competent gloveman is required.
As has previously been said on the subject, any of the other options are capable with the bat. Sure not as good as Wade but their job is to keep not bat. Easy to say Wade's runs outweigh his mistakes in this match but had the two guys he dropped gone on to make big big tons then what would be said? Only a matter of time before a simple mistake costs the team big time. He's just been lucky to this point.
For a quick comparison, the fill in keeper for Sri Lanka (who hasn't kept for over a year) has out kept Wade in this match by miles. Wade has made him look like Ian Healy (as a keeper not commentator).
Keepers who bat like Glenn McGrath are a liability. The Keeper needs to be able to hold down number 7 in the batting line up as well as his primary job of keeper.
by Jim05 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:46 pm
whufc wrote:rod_rooster wrote:We've got 4 Tests in India first and Wade can't keep up to the stumps. He's ordinary even standing back anyway but in India you can't carry a bloke that can't keep to spin.
Agree his screwed in India, if his struggling to Lyon on our pitches no doubt he will struggle over there.
I reckon the selectors are alot more interested in the Ashes rather than India though.
Jim05 he wasn't selected based on the t20 he was selected based on he was the best first class batsmen out of all the keepers when Haddin was dropped.
by Johno6 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:52 am
by FlyingHigh » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:00 am
by CENTURION » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:02 am
FlyingHigh wrote:Really disappointing that what could have turned out to be a great test was ruined by the wickets of Matthews (probably Jayawardene's vault), Samaraweera and Thirimanne. They didn't have to make huge scores, just understand they had to hang around and value their wickets, even if they only got starts of 20-30 each. IT wasn't as if great bowling got these blokes out. Even Jayawardene and Karunaratne got out to good balls, but balls that shouldn't have got them out.
by CENTURION » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:10 am
by Dogmatic » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:13 am
CENTURION wrote:that's out.
by FlyingHigh » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:21 am
CENTURION wrote:FlyingHigh wrote:Really disappointing that what could have turned out to be a great test was ruined by the wickets of Matthews (probably Jayawardene's vault), Samaraweera and Thirimanne. They didn't have to make huge scores, just understand they had to hang around and value their wickets, even if they only got starts of 20-30 each. IT wasn't as if great bowling got these blokes out. Even Jayawardene and Karunaratne got out to good balls, but balls that shouldn't have got them out.
the same can be said about Australia's innings, the first 5 wickets really weren't from good bowling, Australia could have made over 500 with sensible batting & running.
by Jim05 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:24 am
by Failed Creation » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:24 am
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