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Postby gutterboy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:30 am

greatest ever players you have watched playing test cricket...could be anyside you like...cheers
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Re: legends

Postby gutterboy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:39 am

gutterboy wrote:greatest ever players you have watched playing test cricket...could be anyside you like...cheers

the west indies...sir viv richards back in the days...laid back and attacked it....test was at its best back then...!!!
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Re: legends

Postby Aerie » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:33 am

Brian Lara, Adelaide Oval 2005. 226 against Australia at their peak. McGrath, Warne, Lee, MacGill. 200 in a day. Became Test Cricket's greatest run scorer during that innings (the next morning). That was stuff of legend. So glad I was there!
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Re: legends

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:49 am

Aerie wrote:Brian Lara, Adelaide Oval 2005. 226 against Australia at their peak. McGrath, Warne, Lee, MacGill. 200 in a day. Became Test Cricket's greatest run scorer during that innings (the next morning). That was stuff of legend. So glad I was there!


This. Best player i have ever seen and by some margin. You can have your Tendulkar's, Ponting's, Kallis's etc. but Brian Charles was in a class of his own.
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Re: legends

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:05 am

All time best I have seen

M Hayden
D Haynes
V Richards
S Tendulkar
R Ponting
J Kallis
A Gilchrist
S Warne
M Marshall
D Lillee
G McGrath
12th - B Lara

Crickey that was tough. I chose Marshall over the West Indian great fast bowlers because I thought he was better in non favourable conditions. I chose Kallis as the all rounder over all of the greats of the eighties because of his sheer consistency with bat and ball which continues to this day. I chose Richards over Lara because if Viv actually cared about records I believe that Lara's deeds may have been eclipsed. I thought Haydos was a walk up start for one of the opener position but the other one was a bit harder. I thought Haynes was better for longer than Greenidge so I chose him. Probably Greenidge/Haynes or Hayden/Langer would be the better selection if this side were to ever take the field. Sunil Gavaskar is another who is probably worth a mention.

Gilly's desctructive batting give him the edge over others who were superior glovemen such as Alan Knott, Rod Marsh and Ian Healy. Punter and Sachin were walk up starts for mine edging out Lara but only Lara had the brains to retire while still at the top. Which only leaves three legendary Australian bowlers. Test matches are won by bowlers as was proven by the powerful West Indian teams of the seventies and eighties and the Aussie champion teams of the nineties and noughties. Dennis Lillee was the best fast bowler I have ever seen. He didn't have the back up of the West Indians (although obviously he had more than Imran Khan) but he managed to take a lot of wickets against the best opposition such as his bag in the Rest of the World game and his performances against the cream of world cricket in World Series Crickets (79 wickets I think he got in Supertests).

Warne and McGrath's performances speak for themselves. These guys would have a wicket against their name by simply walking on the field. Just ask Daryl Cullinan or Micheal Atherton. Warne is the best best bowler I have ever seen and if he only had brains when he was batting he could have been remembered as the best all rounder as well. McGrath was just a bowling machine. He must have been a nightmare to face. Kind of like the guy you play against who is in his fifties in club cricket and you know he is just going to nag away at you all day...except Pidge would be doing this at 135 and would be mean as hell while doing it.

Perhaps the unluckiest player not to make my list is Wasim Akram. An absolute freak who at his best looked absolutely unplayable. But unlike Kallis he wasn't as consistent so he falls into the non-selected all rounder category. Plenty of Lara lovers will be wondering why I left him out but despite his undoubted ability and flair I reckon he's a bit behind the players I have selected.

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Re: legends

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:08 am

gutterboy wrote:
gutterboy wrote:greatest ever players you have watched playing test cricket...could be anyside you like...cheers

the west indies...sir viv richards back in the days...laid back and attacked it....test was at its best back then...!!!


Viv. No helmet, no fear, all class.

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Re: legends

Postby Jim05 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:15 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
gutterboy wrote:
gutterboy wrote:greatest ever players you have watched playing test cricket...could be anyside you like...cheers

the west indies...sir viv richards back in the days...laid back and attacked it....test was at its best back then...!!!


Viv. No helmet, no fear, all class.

regards,

REB

Yep spot on.
Cant ever remember losing his cool too often either. Bowlers would give him a mouthfull and he would just stand there chewing his gum not saying a word but next ball would end up 10 rows back.
Definately my favourite all time player
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Re: legends

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:24 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Plenty of Lara lovers will be wondering why I left him out but despite his undoubted ability and flair I reckon he's a bit behind the players I have selected.

regards,

REB


I would pick Lara before anyone else but the world would be a boring place if we all agreed. Personally i think Tendulkar is massively over rated and is not on the same level as Ponting, Kallis or Lara. Take away the soft runs he's made on the subcontinent against impotent bowling and then judge. No doubt a great player but not anywhere near the player the media and Indians would have you believe.
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Re: legends

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:28 am

Excellent side though REB. I wouldn't make too many changes. Bowling looks pretty much spot on although i do reckon i'd find a way to squeeze Akram in. Not sure where though.
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Re: legends

Postby Jim05 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:31 am

rod_rooster wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Plenty of Lara lovers will be wondering why I left him out but despite his undoubted ability and flair I reckon he's a bit behind the players I have selected.

regards,

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I would pick Lara before anyone else but the world would be a boring place if we all agreed. Personally i think Tendulkar is massively over rated and is not on the same level as Ponting, Kallis or Lara. Take away the soft runs he's made on the subcontinent against impotent bowling and then judge. No doubt a great player but not anywhere near the player the media and Indians would have you believe.

Tendulkar is a fantastic player no doubt, but a lot of his runs were made on postage stamp sized grounds on batter friendly pitches, would hate to imagine how many more runs Ponting and Kallis would have next yo their names if they had the luxury of playing under thise conditions.
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Re: legends

Postby Media Park » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:42 am

Cook
Langer
Dravid
Kallis
Martyn
Jayawardene
Boucher
Shakib al Hasan
Gough
Vaas
Gillespie
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Re: legends

Postby 36 flags » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:50 am

Gordon Greenidge. All class
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Re: legends

Postby Failed Creation » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:02 pm

My favourites to watch from 1990 - now:

1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Brian Lara
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Allan Border
6. Steve Waugh
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath
12th Man - Colin Miller
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Re: legends

Postby heater31 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:07 pm

Aerie wrote:Brian Lara, Adelaide Oval 2005. 226 against Australia at their peak. McGrath, Warne, Lee, MacGill. 200 in a day. Became Test Cricket's greatest run scorer during that innings (the next morning). That was stuff of legend. So glad I was there!


I watched the same thing. Hardly got any support around him other than Dwayne Bravo? Scoring 80 odd at the other end
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Re: legends

Postby GWW » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:39 pm

For me..

- Viv Richards
- Martin Crowe
- Curtley Ambrose
- Richie Richardson
- Tendulkar
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Re: legends

Postby Failed Creation » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:52 pm

GWW wrote:For me..

- Viv Richards
- Martin Crowe
- Curtley Ambrose
- Richie Richardson
- Tendulkar


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Re: legends

Postby GWW » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:29 pm

I suspect it was mainly because his career was severely cut short due to injury.
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Re: legends

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:55 pm

Media Park wrote:Cook
Langer
Dravid
Kallis
Martyn
Jayawardene
Boucher
Shakib al Hasan
Gough
Vaas
Gillespie


Token selection or toking selection? ;)
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Re: legends

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:All time best I have seen

M Hayden
D Haynes
V Richards
S Tendulkar
R Ponting
J Kallis
A Gilchrist
S Warne
M Marshall
D Lillee
G McGrath
12th - B Lara

Crickey that was tough. I chose Marshall over the West Indian great fast bowlers because I thought he was better in non favourable conditions. I chose Kallis as the all rounder over all of the greats of the eighties because of his sheer consistency with bat and ball which continues to this day. I chose Richards over Lara because if Viv actually cared about records I believe that Lara's deeds may have been eclipsed. I thought Haydos was a walk up start for one of the opener position but the other one was a bit harder. I thought Haynes was better for longer than Greenidge so I chose him. Probably Greenidge/Haynes or Hayden/Langer would be the better selection if this side were to ever take the field. Sunil Gavaskar is another who is probably worth a mention.

Gilly's desctructive batting give him the edge over others who were superior glovemen such as Alan Knott, Rod Marsh and Ian Healy. Punter and Sachin were walk up starts for mine edging out Lara but only Lara had the brains to retire while still at the top. Which only leaves three legendary Australian bowlers. Test matches are won by bowlers as was proven by the powerful West Indian teams of the seventies and eighties and the Aussie champion teams of the nineties and noughties. Dennis Lillee was the best fast bowler I have ever seen. He didn't have the back up of the West Indians (although obviously he had more than Imran Khan) but he managed to take a lot of wickets against the best opposition such as his bag in the Rest of the World game and his performances against the cream of world cricket in World Series Crickets (79 wickets I think he got in Supertests).

Warne and McGrath's performances speak for themselves. These guys would have a wicket against their name by simply walking on the field. Just ask Daryl Cullinan or Micheal Atherton. Warne is the best best bowler I have ever seen and if he only had brains when he was batting he could have been remembered as the best all rounder as well. McGrath was just a bowling machine. He must have been a nightmare to face. Kind of like the guy you play against who is in his fifties in club cricket and you know he is just going to nag away at you all day...except Pidge would be doing this at 135 and would be mean as hell while doing it.

Perhaps the unluckiest player not to make my list is Wasim Akram. An absolute freak who at his best looked absolutely unplayable. But unlike Kallis he wasn't as consistent so he falls into the non-selected all rounder category. Plenty of Lara lovers will be wondering why I left him out but despite his undoubted ability and flair I reckon he's a bit behind the players I have selected.

regards,

REB


Agreed great side only change I would consider is Lara in for Kallis, that bowling attack is to good no way a fifth bowler is getting a go lol
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Re: legends

Postby GWW » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:12 pm

My side would probably look like this:

Greenidge
Haynes
Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
Ambrose

12th man: Border
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