WAFL accepts Freo & WC reserves

[Ronnie]

I can't take a Rucci article at complete face value but if Keith Thomas is being quoted accurately in the latest article regarding the Power lacking a reserves side then we are in for more trouble.

According to Keith, this is a red hot issue and his solution is to have the Port Magpies become a reserves side.

It never ceases to amaze me how a select few people with a rich SANFL heritage in their blood can show such abysmal regard for the competition that nurtured them, as they kneel at the big business AFL alter where tanking and obscene money deals are now a way of life, where the average supporter earns a pittance of what their hero 'tex' or 'tippo' is on.

Chris McDermott would be one, but the rapidly shrinking Keith Thomas is on that list too now.

[JK]

I read that article with interest too, and it made me uneasy to read the planning for an AFL reserves coming from such a great of my SANFL club.

It should be added that somewhere in it, KT did refer to wanting the solution to maintain the integrity of the SANFL competition also.

What it did highlight is that awkward spot KT must find himself in - He loves his SANFL club of that Im sure, but his responsibility now is to his employer and rightly he is doing what he can, that they believe is in the best interest of their club.

[UK Fan]

I read that article with interest too, and it made me uneasy to read the planning for an AFL reserves coming from such a great of my SANFL club.

It should be added that somewhere in it, KT did refer to wanting the solution to maintain the integrity of the SANFL competition also.

What it did highlight is that awkward spot KT must find himself in - He loves his SANFL club of that Im sure, but his responsibility now is to his employer and rightly he is doing what he can, that they believe is in the best interest of their club.

KT proves that everyone has a price. Kill of the club you love for a club you work for.

Kt said he was open to ports b team playing in sanfl reserves to save the integrity of sanfl.

I haven't heard a crow official state the same tbf!!

[FOURTH ESTATE]

This is absolutely shattering news. I feel for every East Perth supporter who have had this done to them.
They have sold their soul and turned their backs on their fellow clubs by this deal.

As a long time Claremont supporter it now means that EVERY CLAREMONT PLAYER who is on a Eagles or Dockers list will now have to play for either East Perth or Peel Thunder.

Players who have come up thru the Claremont juniors with their mates will now be told to play else where.

The goal is to win a premiership for your club. Claremont's chance of completing a hat-trick of premierships is almost nil now as a lot of their players who are on thier list are on AFL lists and they are players that have developed from thier development zones and will now have to play for one of the other clubs.

I feel very saddened for our East Perth counterparts who had no say in this matter.

East Perth Football Club 1902 - 2012 R.I.P.

[Ronnie]

I read that article with interest too, and it made me uneasy to read the planning for an AFL reserves coming from such a great of my SANFL club.

It should be added that somewhere in it, KT did refer to wanting the solution to maintain the integrity of the SANFL competition also.

What it did highlight is that awkward spot KT must find himself in - He loves his SANFL club of that Im sure, but his responsibility now is to his employer and rightly he is doing what he can, that they believe is in the best interest of their club.

I understand that, and no one i suppose would really think he should do anything else.
But it is a serious predicament, him advocating something that could basically end up destroying the environment that Norwood operates in. It could come down to that, and you can't say in one breath that integrity is important but in the next breath say Port Magpies should be the reserves vehicle (disclaimer- information taken from Rucci article)
I don't know how he can reconcile the two, professionally? sure, no problem, personally? i'm not so sure.

[gossipgirl]

Not really sure how having a reserves side is really going to benefit Freo and WC. what happens in other major leagues e.g. NFL and EPL

[JK]

I read that article with interest too, and it made me uneasy to read the planning for an AFL reserves coming from such a great of my SANFL club.

It should be added that somewhere in it, KT did refer to wanting the solution to maintain the integrity of the SANFL competition also.

What it did highlight is that awkward spot KT must find himself in - He loves his SANFL club of that Im sure, but his responsibility now is to his employer and rightly he is doing what he can, that they believe is in the best interest of their club.

I understand that, and no one i suppose would really think he should do anything else.
But it is a serious predicament, him advocating something that could basically end up destroying the environment that Norwood operates in. It could come down to that, and you can't say in one breath that integrity is important but in the next breath say Port Magpies should be the reserves vehicle (disclaimer- information taken from Rucci article)
I don't know how he can reconcile the two, professionally? sure, no problem, personally? i'm not so sure.

I hear you Ronnie .. As I said he did allude to a point of trying to find a perfect solution by both the Power and SANFL, but if one cant be found (which it hasnt thus far), then I think it's a pretty sure bet he would push for whats best for the Power.

[Big Phil]

This is absolutely shattering news. I feel for every East Perth supporter who have had this done to them.
They have sold their soul and turned their backs on their fellow clubs by this deal.

As a long time Claremont supporter it now means that EVERY CLAREMONT PLAYER who is on a Eagles or Dockers list will now have to play for either East Perth or Peel Thunder.

Players who have come up thru the Claremont juniors with their mates will now be told to play else where.

The goal is to win a premiership for your club. Claremont's chance of completing a hat-trick of premierships is almost nil now as a lot of their players who are on thier list are on AFL lists and they are players that have developed from thier development zones and will now have to play for one of the other clubs.

I feel very saddened for our East Perth counterparts who had no say in this matter.

East Perth Football Club 1902 - 2012 R.I.P.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The alignment agreement will include a transition phase in 2013 with all newly drafted interstate recruits to be allocated to East Perth or Peel Thunder.

However, AFL players recruited from non-partnering WAFL clubs will remain at that club through 2013.

AFL-listed players allocated to WAFL clubs in 2012 will remain at their existing clubs, except those at Peel Thunder and East Perth, who will transfer to the respective partnering club of their AFL team.

[beenreal]

Not really sure how having a reserves side is really going to benefit Freo and WC. what happens in other major leagues e.g. NFL and EPL

It's pretty obvious that if most clubs are moving towards their own Reserves side to have direct control over the development of their players, any club that continues to farm players out to potentially conflicting game-styles is going to be at a disadvantage.

Why does Glenelg have a Reserves side?

[gossipgirl]

Not really sure how having a reserves side is really going to benefit Freo and WC. what happens in other major leagues e.g. NFL and EPL

It's pretty obvious that if most clubs are moving towards their own Reserves side to have direct control over the development of their players, any club that continues to farm players out to potentially conflicting game-styles is going to be at a disadvantage.

Why does Glenelg have a Reserves side?

Hasnt helped the Bays !!!!! and not too sure there are many elite competitions that do.

[topsywaldron]

Love it, Glenelg and elite in the same sentence.

[Jim05]

Not really sure how having a reserves side is really going to benefit Freo and WC. what happens in other major leagues e.g. NFL and EPL

It's pretty obvious that if most clubs are moving towards their own Reserves side to have direct control over the development of their players, any club that continues to farm players out to potentially conflicting game-styles is going to be at a disadvantage.

Why does Glenelg have a Reserves side?

Have no problam with the Cows or Port having a ressies side, just not in the SANFL.

[Lynwood]

While i do not want to see AFL Reserves sides in the SANFL, I do beleive that AFL clubs need ressies sides to develop their players. I would like to see the AFL use their money to fund clubs in a ressies comp

[topsywaldron]

While i do not want to see AFL Reserves sides in the SANFL, I do beleive that AFL clubs need ressies sides to develop their players. I would like to see the AFL use their money to fund clubs in a ressies comp

Now that's mature thinking.

[MATT IN WA]

No suprise to anyone the 2 afl clubs want the host club deal to go on past the 5 years agreed to...

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/we ... 6507778098

[Doddy]

Tragic for WA footy fans.

I still think that while so much is written on the "how", there is little substance to the "why". For example:

- Relations between SA-based AFL clubs and the SANFL coaches are generally excellent, we have really seen just a few disputes over many years of working together

- AFL players have developed so well in the quality SANFL comp, where the step up from Reserves to League cater best to the improvement of the young AFL crop.

- "having a reserves team" is not a dependent variable of "winning a premiership". You can't suggest Freo haven't won a premiership because they don't have a reserves side, when WC, Crows and Power all have without one.

- Those who think AFL clubs have not had enough influence in the development of their players obviously haven't seen Chocko talking to his players outside a SANFL huddle at 3QT.

[beenreal]

Fantastic news. As was mentioned in the article, it's about maturing as a football state. I can see some growing up needed around here as well.

Troll.

Pfft...

I've been called worse by better.

And I probably go to more SANFL games than you.

[Dutchy]

Port Magpies become the Powers reserves and play in the VFL, leaving 8 teams in the SANFL, I could live with that.

[JK]

Port Magpies become the Powers reserves and play in the VFL, leaving 8 teams in the SANFL, I could live with that.

And where to for the Crows reserves?

[Jim05]

Port Magpies become the Powers reserves and play in the VFL, leaving 8 teams in the SANFL, I could live with that.

And where to for the Crows reserves?

Who cares, as long as it isnt here