2012 Foxtel Cup

[Apachebulldog]

Yeah yeah i said that two years ago !

[PhilH]

Grand Final to be a Thursday Night in Perth .... Maybe the Thursday Night timeslot a sign of things to come?


Foxtel Cup Grand Final at Patersons Stadium

The AFL today announced the Grand Final of the 2012 FOXTEL Cup – the state-league based knockout competition that was introduced last season – would be played between Claremont and Werribee at Patersons Stadium in WA on Thursday August 2, at 7.35pm local time.

Claremont was runner-up in the inaugural competition in 2011, losing last year’s final to Williamstown, and won its way through to the grand final again with victories over West Adelaide, Mt Gravatt and Port Melbourne. Werribee, which qualified for inclusion in the competition for the first time this year, won its place in the final with successes against Burnie, West Perth and Morningside.

The match will be broadcast live and exclusively on FOX FOOTY from 9:30pm EST.

AFL General Manager National and International Development Andrew Dillon said the AFL congratulated Claremont and Werribee on their efforts in qualifying for the final and said the AFL had been delighted with the on-going strength of the competition in exposing the quality of football played at state league level across the country.

At the 2011 NAB AFL Draft, 13 mature-age state league players were listed by AFL clubs and Mr Dillon said the FOXTEL Cup continued to be a key plank around the strategy to provide more opportunities for players to build a career in the game.

Mr Dillon said he wanted to again thank FOX SPORTS and naming rights sponsor Foxtel for their support of the FOXTEL Cup, along with key support partners Coles and Burley Sekem.

The winning team of the 2012 Grand Final will collect a $60,000 prize. Under competition rules, matches are quarters each of eighteen (18) minutes set time, plus time-on from the last 3 minutes only (20 minutes approximately total per quarter), to ensure they do not overly impact on club commitments to their on-going state league season.

[Ecky]

the AFL had been delighted with the on-going strength of the competition in exposing the quality of football played at state league level across the country.

At the 2011 NAB AFL Draft, 13 mature-age state league players were listed by AFL clubs and Mr Dillon said the FOXTEL Cup continued to be a key plank around the strategy to provide more opportunities for players to build a career in the game.

What garbage!

How many of those 13 even played in the Foxtel Cup?
How much weight do recruiters place on Foxtel Cup performances when making recruiting decisions?
How many players of SANFL reserves standard (or lower) played in the Foxtel Cup this year?

[whufc]

the AFL had been delighted with the on-going strength of the competition in exposing the quality of football played at state league level across the country.

At the 2011 NAB AFL Draft, 13 mature-age state league players were listed by AFL clubs and Mr Dillon said the FOXTEL Cup continued to be a key plank around the strategy to provide more opportunities for players to build a career in the game.

What garbage!

How many of those 13 even played in the Foxtel Cup?
How much weight do recruiters place on Foxtel Cup performances when making recruiting decisions?
How many players of SANFL reserves standard (or lower) played in the Foxtel Cup this year?

I think Lee Spurr may be classed as a mature aged recruit and he certainly didnt play in the roxtel cup.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

I wish some of you baggers of the foxtel cup would pull your heads in. I like the comp and it is good for football nationally.

Until the top SANFL clubs get their heads out of their collective butts don't complain about it if you are not in it.
After having watched Claremont for many seasons I reckon they would knock the stuffing out of Centrals & Norwood with their aggression on the ball and skill level.

But we will never know as long as SANFL clubs keep pooh booing the idea.

Never hurt Claremont last year as they won the WA flag in a canter over Subiaco and are hot favourites to repeat again.

[heater31]

Well said.

I will say it again that the top SANFL clubs are too chicken to put their balls on the line and tackle their similarly ranked interstate counterparts.

So until the top clubs grow a set I don't think the supporters can rubbish the concept

[Booney]

Many of us agree with you two, many will come back and continue to piss and moan....

[whufc]

What i do find funny is the majority including the last 3 posters who are pro foxtel cup are supporters of clubs who have no chance of winning the SANFL premiership.

I wonder if their opinion would change about it if all of a sudden their club were an inch of a chance to win the Thomas Seymour.

[heater31]

What i do find funny is the majority including the last 3 posters who are pro foxtel cup are supporters of clubs who have no chance of winning the SANFL premiership.

I wonder if their opinion would change about it if all of a sudden their club were an inch of a chance to win the Thomas Seymour.

Big fish small pond? Would have thought after being at the top in SA for years Centrals would be keen to dominate anyone willing to take them on.


Claremont proved last year that a state league club can have reasonable runs in both competitions and again this season.

[Booney]

What i do find funny is the majority including the last 3 posters who are pro foxtel cup are supporters of clubs who have no chance of winning the SANFL premiership.

I wonder if their opinion would change about it if all of a sudden their club were an inch of a chance to win the Thomas Seymour.

Wrong. I have never said I support the Foxtel Cup, I support the clubs right to choose to play in it if they wish. I also think if you're club isn't involved in it why comment on it?

I find it funny that the bulk of anti-Foxtel Cup diatribe in this thread is from people whose clubs are NOT involved in the competition. Why do you give a shit? I dont think many Port, South or West supporters have been too vocal in either their support or otherwise of the competition.

[whufc]

What i do find funny is the majority including the last 3 posters who are pro foxtel cup are supporters of clubs who have no chance of winning the SANFL premiership.

I wonder if their opinion would change about it if all of a sudden their club were an inch of a chance to win the Thomas Seymour.

Wrong. I have never said I support the Foxtel Cup, I support the clubs right to choose to play in it if they wish. I also think if you're club isn't involved in it why comment on it?

I find it funny that the bulk of anti-Foxtel Cup diatribe in this thread is from people whose clubs are NOT involved in the competition. Why do you give a shit? I dont think many Port, South or West supporters have been too vocal in either their support or otherwise of the competition.

My apologies, i agree clubs have the right to make the choice. If there is enough evidence it will help the clubs long term future i would hope Centrals would participate.

Claremont would be an interesting case study as to what has been gained by a succesful foxtel cup campaign. Genuine question as i dont know the answer. How many players from Claremont were taken in the AFL draft last year? It would also be interesting to know if Claremont have gained any extra sponsorship from its exposure. Also if any players they recruited this year went due to chance to play on a 'national stage'. Obviously we wouldnt expect Claremont to reveal these answers because if they belive they have an advantage by playing in it why give it up.

At Centrals i think our decision to not participate has been justified the last couple of years by our ongoing long term injury list. If we did play we would have put no more than a glorified under 18 side on the park and they would have been belted like Westies earlier in the year, this serves no purpose for Centrals, the SANFL and the clubs that want to take it serious. At this point in time we couldnt afford for a player like Harder to get injured in a foxtel cup game and miss valuable SANFL games. Yes they can be injured at training etc etc but dont kid yourself there is alot more chance of an injury in a competitive match than circle work at training or watching a mates game having a beer.

Once again though judging off this forum the majority of Centrals and Norwood supporters dont want there team to take part.

[UK Fan]

I wish some of you baggers of the foxtel cup would pull your heads in. I like the comp and it is good for football nationally.

Until the top SANFL clubs get their heads out of their collective butts don't complain about it if you are not in it.
After having watched Claremont for many seasons I reckon they would knock the stuffing out of Centrals & Norwood with their aggression on the ball and skill level.

But we will never know as long as SANFL clubs keep pooh booing the idea.

Never hurt Claremont last year as they won the WA flag in a canter over Subiaco and are hot favourites to repeat again.

I never knew Claremont were an sanfl club.

[Booney]

I wish some of you baggers of the foxtel cup would pull your heads in. I like the comp and it is good for football nationally.

Until the top SANFL clubs get their heads out of their collective butts don't complain about it if you are not in it.
After having watched Claremont for many seasons I reckon they would knock the stuffing out of Centrals & Norwood with their aggression on the ball and skill level.

But we will never know as long as SANFL clubs keep pooh booing the idea.

Never hurt Claremont last year as they won the WA flag in a canter over Subiaco and are hot favourites to repeat again.

I never knew Claremont were an sanfl club.

He said that?

[smac]

Boonbag, as long as SANFL clubs that do enter go half-arsed at the comp, many will reserve the right to criticise due to the damage it does to the standing of the SANFL.

By all means enter, but have a proper crack at it.

[Booney]

Boonbag, as long as SANFL clubs that do enter go half-arsed at the comp, many will reserve the right to criticise due to the damage it does to the standing of the SANFL.

By all means enter, but have a proper crack at it.

You think the standing of the SANFL is dented by this, and if so, by whom?

[mighty_tiger_79]

so if this comp is having a negative impact on the SANFL as a comp does that mean all clubs will now struggle to recruit quality players as opposed to wafl and vfl clubs?

[heater31]

Boonbag, as long as SANFL clubs that do enter go half-arsed at the comp, many will reserve the right to criticise due to the damage it does to the standing of the SANFL.

By all means enter, but have a proper crack at it.

You think the standing of the SANFL is dented by this, and if so, by whom?

We are already dented by asking our lower ranked clubs to participate as those that occupy the qualifying spots think they are too good to lower themselves to the possibility of maybe losing to a team that on paper should be inferior to them.....

[sjt]

Boonbag, as long as SANFL clubs that do enter go half-arsed at the comp, many will reserve the right to criticise due to the damage it does to the standing of the SANFL.

By all means enter, but have a proper crack at it.

You think the standing of the SANFL is dented by this, and if so, by whom?

We are already dented by asking our lower ranked clubs to participate as those that occupy the qualifying spots think they are too good to lower themselves to the possibility of maybe losing to a team that on paper should be inferior to them.....

I never saw this as a reason given not to participate. The clubs gave their reasons for not participating, even if some supporters and two coaches couldn't understand or respect these reasons. Hence, probably some of the criticism when it's gone "pear shaped', for SA participants.
After two years I'm sure most SANFL supporters believe the competition to be a huge success by any measure.

[whufc]

Boonbag, as long as SANFL clubs that do enter go half-arsed at the comp, many will reserve the right to criticise due to the damage it does to the standing of the SANFL.

By all means enter, but have a proper crack at it.

You think the standing of the SANFL is dented by this, and if so, by whom?

We are already dented by asking our lower ranked clubs to participate as those that occupy the qualifying spots think they are too good to lower themselves to the possibility of maybe losing to a team that on paper should be inferior to them.....

How important is bragging rights over WAFL and VFL clubs to you?

I personally dont know a single person who follows a WAFL or VFL side as there main club.

What would winning the Foxtel Cup do for an SANFL club?
Slightly more income is about the only real benefit.
Better chance of recruits (Centrals havent had an issue recruiting so nothing point, facilities, coach, ladder position will do more)
Bragging rights (who are we going to brag to)
Potential for players to be recruited to AFL (if a player is any good he will have scouts watching him at SANFL level)
Potential Sponsors (you can only have 1 sponsor on the jumper and its that small its barely recongniseable).
Extra Media Attention (umm no a regular SANFL game gets more of a write up than the Foxtel Cup)
Extra Exposure on T.V (yep all those people from Ganmain-Grong-Grong-Matong who watched the game are lining up for South Adelaide 2013 memberships)

I still havent heard anyone who is pro foxtel cup give a real reason why this comp will improve their football club.

[heater31]

I still havent heard anyone who is pro foxtel cup give a real reason why this comp will improve their football club.

From South Adelaide perspective I think Scott Taylor and Ron Fuller it has been positive.

Scott played in the first game v Williamstown and went ok from what I saw then a few weeks later Fuller gives in a League game and he has performed.