Earth Hour

[dedja]

I got it!

[fish]

The whole global warming topic is a scam...

LOL would you please substantiate this CC?

Pfft, speak in a language we can understand, Misteeeeeeeeeer Scientist!

Just wondering if CC has any credible scientific analysis to support his statement.

Cambridge Clarrie we're still waiting for some evidence from you that "The whole global warming topic is a scam"

[fish]

If we go to far the other way we could start an ice age that would be unstoppable and then what?

H31 if you have any scientific analysis that suggests that taking action on climate change may trigger an ice age please post it - I'd be interested to have a look at it...

Heater I'm also waiting for something from you...

[dedja]

[heater31]

If we go to far the other way we could start an ice age that would be unstoppable and then what?

H31 if you have any scientific analysis that suggests that taking action on climate change may trigger an ice age please post it - I'd be interested to have a look at it...

Heater I'm also waiting for something from you...

do you know how to use google?


my source is from a TV Documentary that stated if too much carbon dioxide is removed it will trigger an 'ice age' if this cooling reaches a certain latitude (somewhere below where Spain currently is) it will be come unstoppable.

So my solution is to plant a few million trees and she'll be apples

[fish]

science has only been around since homo sapiens have been on this earth. Im not sure when a scientist was around when the dinosars romed the earth professor fish.

If you read my post correctly, you will see i have clearly stated BOTH sides of the story. You seem to know everything there professor fish

No need to be snide about it Bully - I just stated the scientific conclusions about climate change and backed it up with some evidence.

I wonder why you don't focus your attention on the likes of Cambridge Clarrie and Heater who make rash statements about climate change but fail to substantiate them up when asked to...

[fish]

If we go to far the other way we could start an ice age that would be unstoppable and then what?

H31 if you have any scientific analysis that suggests that taking action on climate change may trigger an ice age please post it - I'd be interested to have a look at it...

Heater I'm also waiting for something from you...

my source is from a TV Documentary that stated if too much carbon dioxide is removed it will trigger an 'ice age' if this cooling reaches a certain latitude (somewhere below where Spain currently is) it will be come unstoppable.

So my solution is to plant a few million trees and she'll be apples

Please give us a link and I'll have a look.

[fish]

Science has only been around since homo sapiens have been on this earth. Im not sure when a scientist was around when the dinosars romed the earth professor fish.

If you read my post correctly, you will see i have clearly stated BOTH sides of the story. You seem to know everything there professor fish

Please explain to me when if the earth has or hasnt done this same heating up 60 million years ago????? NO ONE KNOWS!!!!

yet....if we are the 100% real causes of the heating up of this earth and dont do anything, then we will be in trouble as i clearly stated in my recent post

The field of Palaeoclimatology (the history of climate) is an invaluable field of study as it teaches us about what has caused changes in our climate and atmosphere over the life of the earth - and it goes back further than 60 million years.

Through Palaeoclimatology climate scientists have learnt more about the role of greenhouse gases in heating the planet and about what natural causes affect the climate.

This knowledge, along with other fields such as physics and thermodynamics, has enabled climate scientists to conclude that the current warming cannot be explained by natural causes but that it is primarily caused by the buildup in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity.

[heater31]

I would if I had one.

if you are desperate to find out if it is true then use that fantastic web tool Google. I'm sure they would have something on it

[southee]

Symbolic I believe...

Personally, I don't bother. The whole global warming topic is a scam...

Scam?? In what way Stephen Hawking???

[Gozu]

Please give us a link and I'll have a look.

The Great Global Warming Swindle! I remember when they showed this garbage on the ABC and had a panel discussion afterwards and some of the nutters in the crowd were hilarious. Banging on about Nazi eugenics, carbon 14, LaRouchites etc

The fun starts around 1:40. Beautiful.

[the big bang]

The whole global warming topic is a scam...

LOL would you please substantiate this CC?

There was 1 maybe 2 hot days this summer, last summer was mild as well. Case closed.

Squids I assume this is some sort of April Fools day joke!

Short term temperatures may vary markedly but the longer term trend is beyong dispute:

does this mean it's gone up less than a degree in 120 years?

[Psyber]

The field of Palaeoclimatology (the history of climate) is an invaluable field of study as it teaches us about what has caused changes in our climate and atmosphere over the life of the earth - and it goes back further than 60 million years.

Through Palaeoclimatology climate scientists have learnt more about the role of greenhouse gases in heating the planet and about what natural causes affect the climate.

This knowledge, along with other fields such as physics and thermodynamics, has enabled climate scientists to conclude that the current warming cannot be explained by natural causes but that it is primarily caused by the build up in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity.

Based on the long term record and my discussions with the guys at the Uni of Adelaide's Environment Institute, I'd go as far as "cannot be explained by natural causes alone" and "the natural peak due now is added to by the build up in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity."

At this stage in the natural cycles of solar activity when a peak is to be expected, I don;t think you can reasonably dismiss natural causes completely, and cannot, therefore, reasonably attribute all the current situation to human activity.

[Bully]

Science has only been around since homo sapiens have been on this earth. Im not sure when a scientist was around when the dinosars romed the earth professor fish.

If you read my post correctly, you will see i have clearly stated BOTH sides of the story. You seem to know everything there professor fish

Please explain to me when if the earth has or hasnt done this same heating up 60 million years ago????? NO ONE KNOWS!!!!

yet....if we are the 100% real causes of the heating up of this earth and dont do anything, then we will be in trouble as i clearly stated in my recent post

The field of Palaeoclimatology (the history of climate) is an invaluable field of study as it teaches us about what has caused changes in our climate and atmosphere over the life of the earth - and it goes back further than 60 million years.

Through Palaeoclimatology climate scientists have learnt more about the role of greenhouse gases in heating the planet and about what natural causes affect the climate.

This knowledge, along with other fields such as physics and thermodynamics, has enabled climate scientists to conclude that the current warming cannot be explained by natural causes but that it is primarily caused by the buildup in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity.

Still wont believe it, and i stand by my statement, whether or not im told different. And ALOT of others also follow and believe my statement too. there 2 sides to every story fish, whether or not you believe that or not.....

[Barto]

Earth hour is a load of codswallop and wont change a thing. Not enough people care about the environment to make a difference, let the sea levels rise anyway.

By the way: there's no such word as "alot".

[Bully]

Earth hour is a load of codswallop and wont change a thing. Not enough people care about the environment to make a difference, let the sea levels rise anyway.

By the way: there's no such word as "alot".

i will be sure to run my posts past you from now on for a spell check before they are posted there champ

[fish]

If we go to far the other way we could start an ice age that would be unstoppable and then what?

H31 if you have any scientific analysis that suggests that taking action on climate change may trigger an ice age please post it - I'd be interested to have a look at it...

my source is from a TV Documentary...

Heater I'd be a little bit wary about what you see or hear in documentaries.

For example in the documentary mentioned by Gozu above it was claimed that emissions of CO2 from volcanoes are greater than those of humans. This is wrong - annual emissions from human activity are about 100 times greater than those of volcanoes!

I wouldn't be surprised if there are documentaries out there that claim the Holocaust didn't happen, or that the earth is flat. Heck there may even be one out there that claims that Sturt will finish above Centrals this season!

[dedja]

Sturt are above Central ... just saying

[fish]

Short term temperatures may vary markedly but the longer term trend is beyong dispute:

does this mean it's gone up less than a degree in 120 years?

Yep.

[fish]

The field of Palaeoclimatology (the history of climate) is an invaluable field of study as it teaches us about what has caused changes in our climate and atmosphere over the life of the earth - and it goes back further than 60 million years.

Through Palaeoclimatology climate scientists have learnt more about the role of greenhouse gases in heating the planet and about what natural causes affect the climate.

This knowledge, along with other fields such as physics and thermodynamics, has enabled climate scientists to conclude that the current warming cannot be explained by natural causes but that it is primarily caused by the build up in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity.

Based on the long term record and my discussions with the guys at the Uni of Adelaide's Environment Institute, I'd go as far as "cannot be explained by natural causes alone" and "the natural peak due now is added to by the build up in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity."

At this stage in the natural cycles of solar activity when a peak is to be expected, I don;t think you can reasonably dismiss natural causes completely, and cannot, therefore, reasonably attribute all the current situation to human activity.

Agreed Psyber. Although on that last bit the CSIRO says: It is very likely that most of the surface global warming observed since the mid 20th century is due to anthropogenic increases in greenhouse gases.